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Julio Cruz posted:the is (one of the) the loving problem(s) with journalism in this country, right here  e: catte 
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Antisemitism in the labor party I mean I'm sure they have some Down Under but we haven't heard much about it.
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Dec 21, 2020 23:22
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Antipodeanism in the Labor Party.
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Dec 21, 2020 23:25
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Whoever the woman is, she's wearing that face women wear when they're hoping their friends will think the guy with his arm round her is a boyfriend. (Don't ask me how I know.. my sad and pathetic younger life writ large) But yuck, how could anyone... bleurgh...
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Dec 21, 2020 23:39
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Coincidentally that is the face I wear when I want to go home because I need a big poo poo.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:But yuck, how could anyone... bleurgh... The man has roughly a half-dozen kids, maybe by a half-dozen women? Idk I haven't really paid attention, gross tho OwlFancier posted:Coincidentally that is the face I wear when I want to go home because I need a big poo poo. Do you ever sprinkle a lil straw on top of your jobby and then do a Boris voice like "a-bluh-bluh-bluh" and then flush it down and say "gently caress you Boris"? Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Dec 21, 2020 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Whoever the woman is, she's wearing that face women wear when they're hoping their friends will think the guy with his arm round her is a boyfriend. CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Dec 21, 2020 |
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Dec 21, 2020 23:48
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Julio Cruz posted:the is (one of the) the loving problem(s) with journalism in this country, right here Some of the other MPs they wheel out for these press conferences aren't as strict but Boris doesn't allow any follow up questions from journos when he does the briefing.
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Dec 21, 2020 23:52
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which then leads the journalists to ask three questions at once, so Boris can fob one off on an adviser, come up with a non-answer to the second and just ignore the third
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Dec 22, 2020 00:08
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How is the government not going to resign after this bullshit. I mean these fucks are causing the greatest health crisis in history. If loving labour was in govt the bbc would be demanding the govt resigns. But nah, tory toters.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:11
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Who's going to make them resign?
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Julio Cruz posted:he gets asked a question and clearly doesn't answer it, but instead of the journo saying "er actually you didn't answer the question, what the gently caress" they just meekly sit down and shut up I'm guessing either the technique confused the journos into never asking them to answer the question, or possibly that the politicians complained and threated the journos with lack of access. Either that or Andrew Neil bagsied all of the 'answer the question' moments so nobody else is allowed now. E: or she's Boris' mate. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:How is the government not going to resign after this bullshit. I mean these fucks are causing the greatest health crisis in history. If loving labour was in govt the bbc would be demanding the govt resigns. But nah, tory toters. Because they have realised that if they just... ignore the fact that consequences are supposed to result from fuckips, consequences will not result from fuckups.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:16
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OwlFancier posted:Who's going to make them resign? I mean nobody. But the mandate is non existent at this point. Brexit is a loving flop and Covid is murdering people in the streets. The legitimacy of this government should be questioned daily.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:20
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Plenty of people think the covid is entirely the fault of the millenials and/or the chinese and that brexit is the fault of the EU and that the tories should probably just kill all three.
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OwlFancier posted:Plenty of people think the covid is entirely the fault of the millenials and/or the chinese and that brexit is the fault of the EU and that the tories should probably just kill all three. Yeah from looking at polling data Bojack Johnson is sitting at 45% approval. Which is nuts
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Dec 22, 2020 00:23
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Facts are meaningless if nobody's reporting them. My parents are convinced students have been responsible for most of the cases, when the ONS released data the other day that says they're the only bastards that are sticking to the restrictions.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:29
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I'm genuinely surprised by how Boris has continually hosed it in exactly the same way this many times seemingly without learning a single thing. For the love of christ just try to get ahead of at least one Covid development, rather than waiting for your hand to be forced by a crisis to turning into a catastrophe
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Dec 22, 2020 00:29
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The country is so stacked with old Etonian nepotism and atrocities going unquestioned in the press, we aren't living under a system that selects for intelligence, competence or compassion. So It's no surprise we are continually led by uncaring, incompetent idiots.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:32
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multijoe posted:I'm genuinely surprised by how Boris has continually hosed it in exactly the same way this many times seemingly without learning a single thing. For the love of christ just try to get ahead of at least one Covid development, rather than waiting for your hand to be forced by a crisis to turning into a catastrophe nobody ever gets credit for stopping a catastrophe before it happens, because the end result of that is nothing happening you've just got to seen to mitigate things and hey, maybe it couldn't ever have been prevented who knows?
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Dec 22, 2020 00:32
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Even if every single person in the country agreed they’d hosed it and Boris and do we’re to blame, what do you think would happen? Absolutely nothing. There’s no mechanism for it.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:41
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If every single person in the country agreed they’d hosed it and Boris was to blame, including judges, generals, and police chiefs, then there's mechanisms, but we're nowhere near that point.
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Jakabite posted:There’s no mechanism for it.  E: In theory there's a vote of no confidence, but they have a majority, and managed to boot out the dissenters and replace them with wet behind the gills yes-men who'll vote however Boris tell them. Also Keith would never call it, and would probably whip to abstain even if someone else did. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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I think the point is that there is no mechanism most people are aware of to translate "loving government useless twats" into effective change, if there was, that would be a revolution, a mechanism by which discontent with the government can be acted on when needed and in an effective manner.
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Isomermaid posted:The country is so stacked with old Etonian nepotism and atrocities going unquestioned in the press, we aren't living under a system that selects for intelligence, competence or compassion. So It's no surprise we are continually led by uncaring, incompetent idiots. We've just had a historically unprecedented media event in that every establishment force united to stop a lefty, an unexpected consequence of that is that Boris et al were held to to even less of a standard than a Tory candidate usually is. Does anyone actually disagree that Theresa May would have been a significantly better leader for this moment than Boris is? It's incredible that this confluence of 'yo actually real poo poo is happening now there's Events happening' and 'the establishment is only about stopping the left right now' has happened but you can only lol honestly. We have a uniquely incompetent government when we actually do need some competence and there is literally no media apparatus to create pushback because the media apparatus is directly why the incompetent government is in power, and the official opposition is explicitly defining itself only as downflow from that failed media apparatus. There's just nothing, we're functionally a failed state that just happens to have some money to throw around.
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Dec 22, 2020 00:49
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Well bollocks the pharmacy closed early. Now I have to get up at 6am.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:But yuck, how could anyone... bleurgh... A friend of mine is a super left wing, guillotine-them-all type. Lived in a commune, works endlessly for various charities, has been arrested umpteen times at various demos and has strong opinions on Monster Munch. A few years before Bojo got the big seat she was working at a charity that, for whatever reason, Boris was visiting every now and again. One day she was asked to show him something, and she went into the meeting pre-quaking with rage and ready to destroy him...and found him supremely charming. Incredibly friendly and charismatic, to the point that she likened speaking to him to being drunk. And then, every subsequent time she met him, he would ask about her extended family and take seemingly genuine interest. So the wiffle-haired flint eyed sociopath obviously has something going for him. Blueshirt fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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Dec 22, 2020 00:53
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Yes, some of them develop a form of charm that prevents them from being guillotined on the spot. I'm sure there's a whole bunch of experts from this year that can explain how this is selected for.
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Dec 22, 2020 01:01
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smh if you do not have the ability to hold a grudge against any amount of affability.
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Cerv posted:For the party ostensibly representing the precariat that’s probably better policy than kicking you instantly after one late payment. I left back when Starmer won.
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Blueshirt posted:A friend of mine is a super left wing, guillotine-them-all type. Lived in a commune, works endlessly for various charities, has been arrested umpteen times at various demos and has strong opinions on Monster Munch. Yep that reminds me of Bill Clinton over on our side of the pond. Even people who hated him found his personal magnetism irresistible. Definitely a highly desirable trait in a politician.
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Blueshirt posted:So the wiffle-haired flint eyed sociopath obviously has something going for him. There's a 90's 2000AD comic strip called Zenith. Its about the UK developing super heroes first for WW2, not the US. Think 1960s Austin Powers heroes, then bleak Thatcher Tory Heroes, against nazis. Good read, would recommend. The PM from it is a a super hero who just jedi mind tricks loving everyone to be leader of the world. We need to test Boris' blood for midichlorians.
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Vitamin P posted:We've just had a historically unprecedented media event in that every establishment force united to stop a lefty, an unexpected consequence of that is that Boris et al were held to to even less of a standard than a Tory candidate usually is. Does anyone actually disagree that Theresa May would have been a significantly better leader for this moment than Boris is? It feels like any other country would have hit a state of massive unrest by this point. Like the weird apathy of the British public is integral to how we got here. I'm not calling for violence. I'm saying there is, at a systemic level, no actual mechanism out of this other than violence. I just don't know how much is by design or how much is just corruption and failsons.
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https://twitter.com/PoliDigitalUK/status/1340997961774292993?s=19 Starmer's love bombing of Scotland continues at a pace.
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there's no movement now except muttering, because there is no unambiguous proof that johnson's rapidly-falling favourability will actually translate to electoral backlash the only plausible CON challenger presently is sunak who would, needless to say, be coming off even worse than johnson as pandemic response goes. maybe in a different crisis where the great intra-tory spiritual struggle is gently navigating the party back to cameronesque hug-a-hoodie conciliation (only now with that great brexit taste), to adapt to the brave new world where immigration is no longer priority #1, but that, as it happens, is not the crisis the government actually went on to have
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https://twitter.com/NickCohen4/status/1341112123884265481 (expect to see a lot of that kind of messaging trickling out next year, I think) anyway, Starmer's statement seems to be quote:“It would be entirely the wrong priority to hold another Scottish independence referendum in the teeth of the deepest recession for 300 years, while still fighting this pandemic, when there is such uncertainty about how Brexit and coronavirus will affect us and when the costs and consequences of independence are still so uncertain,” he said. (as with Corbyn's v similar statements, 1) facially: yeah, okay, whatever, the message even refuses to oppose any indyref, just one set this or next year 2) loto's press office is definitely hyping up the NO2INDYREF angle though)
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/NickCohen4/status/1341112123884265481 Writing about how there's a right wing purity problem in the loving Spectator by Christ.
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Guavanaut posted:Antipodeanism in the Labor Party. At least it's better than Antiposadism in the Labour Party.
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