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Attorney at Funk posted:in the end, it really was a fantastic year for britain https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1342184029517393920?s=19
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genericnick posted:Not too early to start on the 2024 bean stash. what does that mean?
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dead gay comedy forums posted:what does that mean? basically any rights we have above and beyond a medieval serf are cause the meddling eurocrats forced our monarchy to adopt them they're one of the only, insanely flimsy and constantly ignored, limits on state power here so the MPs, fash-mag writers and thus the british public hate the human rights act
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dead gay comedy forums posted:what does that mean? The UK press has been hating on the ECHR for quite some time and it's a safe guess they'll stir up a campaign to leave it around election time. This would automatically terminate the agreement.
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Communist Thoughts posted:If you're gonna cry about poor people being hurt you're not gonna be able to laugh at literally anything in the UK Ya know, I am trying to think of a better way I've ever heard anyone sum up the UK.
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genericnick posted:The UK press has been hating on the ECHR for quite some time and it's a safe guess they'll stir up a campaign to leave it around election time. This would automatically terminate the agreement. Communist Thoughts posted:basically any rights we have above and beyond a medieval serf are cause the meddling eurocrats forced our monarchy to adopt them loving lmao they would have to rag on the tories for them having agreed to the human rights clause, which would be very much a tory thing to do while shooting themselves on the foot completely hoping for a new full cromwell day on those rich obnoxious assholes ffs
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genericnick posted:The UK press has been hating on the ECHR for quite some time and it's a safe guess they'll stir up a campaign to leave it around election time. This would automatically terminate the agreement. Assuming this agreement doesn't get voted down by one or more parliaments, I pretty much expect Johnson to try to get it changed before the ink's even dry by threatening to break it.
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The replies to that tweet claim that ditching the ECHR only removes access to the EU justice databases etc it doesn't void the whole trade agreement.
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Why would you be chomping at the bit to break the ECHR?
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An insane mind posted:Why would you be chomping at the bit to break the ECHR? Because you're a tory. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55368922 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/10/lawyers-claim-knife-attack-at-law-firm-was-inspired-by-priti-patels-rhetoric
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Brexit is about nobody telling the English who they can and can't treat like poo poo. The hostility towards the ECHR is the same.
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I'm unclear. Is that tweet saying the UK is ditching the ECHR or will still recognise it? Access to the ECHR is a right for every resident of Northern Ireland under the Good Friday Agreement. IIRC Cameron had a manifesto promise to introduce a British human rights act that would break from the ECHR, but it came to nothing largely because it violated the GFA.
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gonadic io posted:Because you're a tory. That BBC article is a loving disgrace jfc
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Woke Pob posted:I'm unclear. Is that tweet saying the UK is ditching the ECHR or will still recognise it? The tweet is saying that the brexit agreement has penalties for if the UK falls short of the standards required by the ECHR (which the UK clearly wants to do). The wording of the original tweet implies that it voided the whole brexit agreement (hence the poster here saying to get your beans ready) but in the replies somebody then says that it only voids the accesses to the EU justice databases and that kind of thing: https://twitter.com/SimonFRCox/status/1342206951481081857 gonadic io has issued a correction as of 21:06 on Dec 25, 2020 |
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Thanks! I tend to avoid reading replies to tweets for my own sanity.
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Also northern ireland is getting a lot of special treatment here including effectively still being inside the EU customs union and access to Erasmus so a hearty lol if they're the only UK citizens that get to keep the ECHR.
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gonadic io posted:Also northern ireland is getting a lot of special treatment here including effectively still being inside the EU customs union and access to Erasmus so a hearty lol if they're the only UK citizens that get to keep the ECHR. I'm sure Boris and the Torys will find a way to punish those horrid Northern Irish people, how dare they want to keep the GFA and free travel.
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An insane mind posted:I'm sure Boris and the Torys will find a way to punish those horrid Northern Irish people, how dare they want to keep the GFA and free travel. Well for one, the Irish gov is being leaned on to enforce UK borders so plenty of people have e.g. had Irish visas rejected because they had rejected UK visas also and were considered a risk of traveling into Northern Ireland and on into the UK. Even if they e.g. were visiting family in Ireland just for a few days for a birthday or whatever so pretty obviously were not planning to go into the UK. https://workpermit.com/news/ireland-visas-blocked-over-uk-entry-fears-20201110 (but I saw it on twitter)
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Knitting Beetles posted:when’s second brexit? the big folk don't have second brexit
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Is this deal really going to accomplish what Brexiters want and keep foreign labor out? I can’t figure it out from reading the recent articles.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is this deal really going to accomplish what Brexiters want and keep foreign labor out? I can’t figure it out from reading the recent articles. No, because most of the foreigns they don't like aren't even from the EU
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crispix posted:i hate brexit but I hate the rubberneckers who want to look at people starving and in pain more https://twitter.com/TheKafkaDude/status/1342422108106842112?s=19
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I enjoy these memes but the ones about the norf are written in a southern accent. this is imperialism
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Continuity NIP posted:No, because most of the foreigns they don't like aren't even from the EU the Middle East etc. were getting work permits to work in the EU and using them to work in the UK. I guess that isn’t happening anymore, but is the UK really saying no to those immigrant workers, or will they just be letting them in another way? I’m trying to compare it to here in Japan where basically everyone in the government knows that Japan will not function without more immigration in the future but there’s still plenty of old bigots who have fantastical ideas of other solutions.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Yeah. it was my understanding that being part of the EU meant that people from That only works in Schengen (which the UK was not part of, thanks to a grandfathered opt-out) or for permanent residents of other EU countries, which was a miniscule portion of immigrants. AFAIK the main complaint from bigots regarding the EU allowing non-EU immigration has to do largely with the HRA/ECHR as I've posted about above; specifically the EU requires that countries obey the ECHR as a condition of membership (there's signatories who don't really have to, notably Russia). That includes human rights to family life and some other rights which make people immune to regular immigration controls (to an extent) if they e.g. have a family in the UK or if they would be subject to deportation on an unjust basis. This is enforced via a supranational pan-european court and is VERY BAD according to the cunty fuckers in UKIP and the like. This also still applies through the trade deal. Technically the UK did generally follow the Schengen visa regime (but was not compatible, such that a visa for the UK was only ever for the UK, unlike Schengen visas) and there were some regulations pertaining that, but if anything the immigration regime has been made a bit more lenient after Brexit, mostly to cover the shortfall in specialised labour that would otherwise come from the EU - medical and emergency workers, engineers, etc. Private Speech has issued a correction as of 04:08 on Dec 26, 2020 |
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Private Speech posted:tbh the HRA is truly dreadful stuff Look, if it stops us using the latest We have a lot to learn from our natural allies using this technology such as
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Samurai Sanders posted:I’m trying to compare it to here in Japan where basically everyone in the government knows that Japan will not function without more immigration in the future but there’s still plenty of old bigots who have fantastical ideas of other solutions. I recall vaguely reading something about how some in the Japanese left were trying to foster better incentives for Brazilian immigrants because Wikipedia posted:The first Japanese immigrants arrived in Brazil in 1908. Brazil is home to the largest Japanese population outside Japan.[8] According to the IBGE, as of 2009 there were approximately 1.6 million people of Japanese descent in Brazil and estimated at just under 1.5 million as of 2014.[1] Since the 1980s, a return migration has emerged of Japanese Brazilians to Japan.[9] but conservatives there were like "how the gently caress there are japanese-brazilians" and lol --- and also another lmao: afaik the UK depends on foreign labor since WW2, they even skirted EU norms for a long while by relying on the commonwealth to bring the hard exploitation labor no? so it is something like actually polish or croatians or italians are problematic because of the EU wage conditions, not because they are STEALING GOOD JOBS (that nobody there wants to do)
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dead gay comedy forums posted:and also another lmao: afaik the UK depends on foreign labor since WW2, they even skirted EU norms for a long while by relying on the commonwealth to bring the hard exploitation labor no? UK politics seem to be almost entirely UK politicians doing things large parts of the populace don't want, then blaming the EU. Hell, I think the UK was the only country still championing Turkey joining back in 2016?
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Brexing Day Hangover
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gonadic io posted:https://twitter.com/BameFor/status/1342495556732649478 and the living shall envy the dead
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gonadic io posted:https://twitter.com/BameFor/status/1342495556732649478 The gammon will loving love this. I've seen numerous petitions for reinstating the death penalty on https://petition.parliament.uk/ in the past.
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