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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

e: You're not gonna get hazed working as a low level dev at an insurance company, but if you work in "tech" in any capacity you are absolutely going to get poo poo on if you don't come from the right background.

often, but not always. I don’t have a single post-secondary credit and I’ve never been given meaningful poo poo by coworkers, even working in the dark heart of tech

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
tech workers are the most oppressed, unjustly stressed workers on the planet. my heart goes out to them

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I’m glad we are doing oppression olympics but for workers

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

I got a degree from a state school in psychology and I work in capital-T Tech in a major American city and I don’t know of a single person who has ever been “hazed” like this.
maybe it’s different if you’re living in SF working at startups and pitching to 26 year old private equity psychopaths :shrug:

tech workers should organize like any other workers and yeah the interview process is bad but gently caress it’s still a pretty cushy job for the most part. I much prefer wiring code in a nice office to teaching, working retail, waiting tables, or painting houses.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




My suffering is the worst suffering because it's the suffering I am most familiar with.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

I got a degree from a state school in psychology and I work in capital-T Tech in a major American city and I don’t know of a single person who has ever been “hazed” like this.

For a STEM field, IT is remarkably flexible on your formal schooling, at least in my experience.

If I remember the details right from what I heard when they were hired, my old sysadmin team a few years ago had one person whose degree was actually in French literature, and another who dropped out of music school and never actually graduated. They didn't even start getting into computer poo poo until after college. One proved to be a goddamn wizard at SQL stuff, and the other did a ton of automation that ended up saving us quite a bit of time and effort.

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
honestly if a single group of people deserved hazing it's cs majors, which is why we have yospos i thought

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Plank Walker posted:

honestly if a single group of people deserved hazing it's cs majors

Speaking as a CS major I agree

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

The hacker news contingent of tech bros should be lobotomized for the betterment of humanity imo.

BAE OF PIGS
Nov 28, 2016

Tup
https://twitter.com/BonerWizard/status/1343069415005249541?s=20

#pissfood

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
are you allowed to sell your piss?

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

If we can't, we've already lost

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

$24/hr isn't exactly that hard to get in a trade

wet_goods
Jun 21, 2004

I'M BAAD!

indigi posted:

are you allowed to sell your posts?

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

CharlestheHammer posted:

I’m glad we are doing oppression olympics but for workers
Yeah this derail is Bomb Bomb Iran level stupid.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 214 days!

Taffer posted:

I'm sure this is a thing that happens in some places, but the assertion that it happens everywhere is pretty weird. I have been in programming and programming-adjacent work for about 8 years and I have never encountered this. Most people I encounter are very nice, though working for a California company does get a certain brand of snobbery, but just the normal type, not any programmer specific stuff.

I never went to college and have never encountered any hate for that, ever. If anything people are just annoyed that they went to college for a career that doesn't really need it.

Also programming is not a hard career to get into. If anything it's easier than most, but for millenials (and now zoomers) breaking into any career was/is difficult. Granted I'm a white guy so it was probably easier for me, but I definitely did not come from a privileged background - I was poor as hell most of my life, which is why I never went to college.

these post come off as if the people who make them are accepted as being the right sort of person and it has never occurred to them that other people don't get treated as people for arbitrary reasons

if you're white in particular, especially a white guy, you don't need to be from a privileged background, you're sending the social signals you need to in order to network just by being a white nerdy guy.

ffs you dont need a degree because you already have the in people get from college in other industries. the set of social signals is just very slightly different, star trek instead of wine tasting and so forth. its literally bragging that qualifications don't matter, just being the sort of person who is a "good culture fit."

Hodgepodge has issued a correction as of 07:59 on Dec 27, 2020

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Hodgepodge posted:

these post come off as if the people who make them are accepted as being the right sort of person and it has never occurred to them that other people don't get treated as people for arbitrary reasons

if you're white in particular, especially a white guy, you don't need to be from a privileged background, you're sending the social signals you need to in order to network just by being a white nerdy guy.

ffs you dont need a degree because you already have the in people get from college in other industries. the set of social signals is just very slightly different, star trek instead of wine tasting and so forth. its literally bragging that qualifications don't matter, just being the sort of person who is a "good culture fit."

Pretty Much. I know hispanic and black friends who are vetted for everything little credential they have and later rejected for a job for not being a "good company fit."

indigi posted:

are you allowed to sell your piss?

Wasn't there an e-girl who sold her bath water for a bit last year?

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Forceholy posted:

Pretty Much. I know hispanic and black friends who are vetted for everything little credential they have and later rejected for a job for not being a "good company fit."


Wasn't there an e-girl who sold her bath water for a bit last year?

Yep. People drank it and got sick. Decided that I liked her after that, tho not enough to watch her content or remember her name.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Just google tub girl to find out more.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Cocaine Bear posted:

Just google tub girl to find out more.

C'mon, man. How old is that?

wolfman101
Feb 8, 2004

PCXL Fanboy
A largish profession can support many different experiences? Clearly there is only one tech experience and everyone else is lying.

Tech people can range the whole political spectrum. I have worked next to DSA members and a guy who kept open a page to the Drudge Report.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
"Hazing" is an exaggeration but I have found bay area IT companies to be intensely demanding and often ideological rigid about how they hire people for direct employment. Like, if you want to work on an XYZ application and haven't built two of comparable scale already, at least one of which used the same tech stack, you can get lost. Being a white nerd with technical qualifications is not an easy ticket in and the industry would be devastated if all the immigrant labor (much of it not directly employed but contracted) suddenly vanished.

Gazpacho has issued a correction as of 22:23 on Dec 27, 2020

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I always tell people the best way to join the DSA is to either attend a meeting, or attend a local amateur circuit wrestling event at which fully half of the active membership will be present

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin

https://twitter.com/slugn0id/status/1343077243279458304?s=20

Eat This Glob
Jan 14, 2008

God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. Who will wipe this blood off us? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?

poo-trous poo-trous ghali would be a good name for the poo poo-eating spinoff account for the piss eater

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Zeroisanumber posted:

Yep. People drank it and got sick. Decided that I liked her after that, tho not enough to watch her content or remember her name.

She's apparently doing actual porn now. Guess you can only sell creepy shut-ins bathwater for so long before the money train slows down.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Megillah Gorilla posted:

She's apparently doing actual porn now. Guess you can only sell creepy shut-ins bathwater for so long before the money train slows down.

all that is solid melts into air, all that is sacred is profaned,,,

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Megillah Gorilla posted:

She's apparently doing actual porn now. Guess you can only sell creepy shut-ins bathwater for so long before the money train slows down.

Zoomer Boxxy showing the grit to survive and excelling our weak-rear end generation once again.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider

Megillah Gorilla posted:

She's apparently doing actual porn now. Guess you can only sell creepy shut-ins bathwater for so long before the money train slows down.

how far we’ve come from whenever that was when a bunch of her fans got mad on Twitter because she’d promised to show her pussy and then posted a video of her cat

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Zeroisanumber posted:

Yep. People drank it and got sick. Decided that I liked her after that, tho not enough to watch her content or remember her name.

This was shown not to be true, as see in the recent GBS thread

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Just checked and made sure we were all talking about the same person. Yes, Belle Delphine.

The whole bath water thing was June last year.

So, just 18 months from literally thousands of losers buying her bath water to releasing anal porn.

The modern internet churn cycle is brutal.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

wolfman101 posted:

A largish profession can support many different experiences? Clearly there is only one tech experience and everyone else is lying.

Tech people can range the whole political spectrum. I have worked next to DSA members and a guy who kept open a page to the Drudge Report.

All of YOSPOS thinks you shouldn't make OSHA reports because someone might get in trouble. That's tech leftists for you.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Just checked and made sure we were all talking about the same person. Yes, Belle Delphine.

The whole bath water thing was June last year.

So, just 18 months from literally thousands of losers buying her bath water to releasing anal porn.

The modern internet churn cycle is brutal.

I'd guess that the OnlyFans market is currently super competitive and flooded with hardcore content and anyone who stuck to softcore would lose their market share pretty quickly.

It was probably headed that way already but the pandemic and the stay-at-home orders would have sped up the process fairly significantly. There's not a whole lot of independent jobs you can run via Zoom.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I'd guess that the OnlyFans market is currently super competitive and flooded with hardcore content and anyone who stuck to softcore would lose their market share pretty quickly.

It was probably headed that way already but the pandemic and the stay-at-home orders would have sped up the process fairly significantly. There's not a whole lot of independent jobs you can run via Zoom.

I don’t understand how the other half of that market is people playing video games, nor how nobody has made a niche where they play video games while eating rear end.

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





i like how this thread is both yelling about how programmers being bad and are snooty about what college coworkers went to while also talking about belle delphine. guess not enough chuds are dying on their own ignorance

numerrik
Jul 15, 2009

Falcon Punch!

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I don’t understand how the other half of that market is people playing video games, nor how nobody has made a niche where they play video games while eating rear end.

They have, it’s called plexstorm. It’s been around for a few years now. it’s basically 18+ twitch.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
speaking of this Belle D thing, according to her her only fans makes a lot of money, which makes sense.

I don’t know anything about her doing porn but she’s weird enough that she kight just be doing this for fun or just to make even more money as a lot of people love her for whatever reason

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

palindrome posted:

Maybe so but you get to sit in a chair, in an air-conditioned office, and get paid presumably decent wages. I don't think it even compares to working a retail minimum wage job dealing with customers, or in a call center, or a seasonal agriculture job.

loving LOL

if you think the guy sitting in a crammed cube in an open floor plan, covid-infested office solving tickets is making any more money than the technician on site coordinating with the evil computer toucher in the office, you're huffing some serious loving glue, and i'd like a real deep breath of that because holy loving poo poo.

i've been the computer toucher, the cabling toucher, and the contract toucher. breaking news, bud: it's all hosed unless you're PMC

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I don’t understand how the other half of that market is people playing video games, nor how nobody has made a niche where they play video games while eating rear end.

You sure they haven't? I'm not about to go look.

God...I'm old enough to remember when Vanessa Williams got stripped of her Ms. America crown for doing a lesbian photo shoot for Penthouse, when Gary Hart's political presidential ambitions were crushed by him having a mistress and when Pee Wee Herman was a laughing stock for jacking in a porn theater. Now we have a defined career trajectory that goes from online fetish model to butt loving and, more than likely, your own reality TV show just waiting for you and a president who's being sued by the porn stars he banged.

Were like this close to having your sex tape be a resume entree.

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Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

1 2 3!
If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine

BiggerBoat posted:

You sure they haven't? I'm not about to go look.

God...I'm old enough to remember when Vanessa Williams got stripped of her Ms. America crown for doing a lesbian photo shoot for Penthouse

It wasn't a formal photoshoot, it was a private photoshoot that Penthouse purchased (and Playboy declined). She had no say in it, which makes the situation even more hosed up. It was essentially the 1984 version of a nude pics hack.

And you can't even own that magazine legally, since the centerfold was Traci Lords, aged 15.

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