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hearts r isn't gonna blow your mind but if you like tales and have a vita, it's a good time chasing after someone's fractured emotions and accidentally learning a retired painter's deepest darkest secret. the battle system i think would be a lot better if tp didn't exist, but chase links are a fun mechanic and you can micromanage party ai with gambits
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A Sometimes Food posted:Replaying Dragon's Dogma. I literally can't believe this game never got a real sequel and it's devolved to the point where a buddy and I joke--sadly--whenever big game reveal events are happening that something Must Be Dragon's Dogma 2, Finally, whenever something even vaguely similar shows up. A while back the thread prompted me to try out Scarlet Grace, but I still haven't been able to get it to stop permanently loading after every few battles, so I'm moving on to finally check out Etrian Odyssey 4 after having it in my periphery for years.
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ninjewtsu posted:What's a good tales of game to get into after vesperia and berseria Abyss or Xillia probably.
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Zore posted:Abyss or Xillia probably. This makes me wonder: Is Tales of Symphonia not as good as I remember when I played it as a kid and I just have very strong nostalgia goggles for it, or are the latter ones just that much better? I only played a bit of Berseria and got about 3/4ths of the way through Abyss when it came out and can't really recall a strong take on them.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:33
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Barudak posted:Labyrinth of Refrain coven issues: Whenever anyone mentions this game they say something like "well, the story is unpleasant but at least the gameplay is nice" and then I say that the gameplay is trash too, but no one ever listens.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:35
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Sab Sabbington posted:This makes me wonder: Is Tales of Symphonia not as good as I remember when I played it as a kid and I just have very strong nostalgia goggles for it, or are the latter ones just that much better? I only played a bit of Berseria and got about 3/4ths of the way through Abyss when it came out and can't really recall a strong take on them. I still have a lot of nostalgia for Symphonia but mentioning it in this thread usually brings out a lot of valid criticism. It definitely aged a lot worse than Abyss.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:41
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symphonia has janky kinda sluggish combat and a really weak plot/characters. abyss has janky kinda sluggish combat and a pretty good plot/characters.
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Dec 30, 2020 00:44
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Sab Sabbington posted:I literally can't believe this game never got a real sequel and it's devolved to the point where a buddy and I joke--sadly--whenever big game reveal events are happening that something Must Be Dragon's Dogma 2, Finally, whenever something even vaguely similar shows up. They made a lovely anime that probably did poorly and completely dumpstered any hope of a series revival. I swear Capcom does this kind of stuff on purpose.
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I have no idea who was even demanding a Dradog anime. You'd think something that out of left field would be a passion project, but the whole thing is so painfully generic, derivative, and soulless that it can only be read as a genuine attempt to make it a big thing.
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Clarste posted:Whenever anyone mentions this game they say something like "well, the story is unpleasant but at least the gameplay is nice" and then I say that the gameplay is trash too, but no one ever listens. I got suckered in on the demo + people saying the gameplay is good. The demo does a really good job of implying a solid consistent progression but hoooboy that doesn't keep up and the rest of the people I assume arr liars. Other issues: 1) You can level covens up. All this does is lower the cost of taking them into a dungeon. So long as your total cost isn't above 70 you'll really never care and Covens level up stupid fast in endgame. This basically just becomes a quick grind to go from "this coven costs 56 of 100 of your points" to "this coven costs 6 points of 100 of your points". Pure busy work in edgecases otherwise completely ignorable. 2) You can fine "sealed" items in dungeons. This have randomized stats and can't be used until unsealed. You can find these starting in the second dungeon but can't unseal them until the third. a) The stats on these are, negligibly, better than an equivalent unsealed item from the same dungeon. I've never seen one be of the highest or second highest quality tier in a dungeon so even with the boosts you'll find better gear which means you will never ever use one of these b) the cost of unsealing them is hideously disproportional to this fact c) Items from each dungeon are a clear tier, so all of those items you've been carrrying since dungeon 2 and pay a fortune to unlock are even more obsolete than point a suggests 3) There is an automapper, hooray. There are like 10 different kind of chests that require a master key to open, with those keys unlocked as you progress through the game/find hidden areas. Guess what, the automapper doesn't note what kind of chest it is on the map so have fun trying to remember if that was a chest you have the key now for or not! 4) This is slightly petty but you can find items that give you additional art for each class so you can go from 3 options for each class to four. These items are called "Third Palette"
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Dec 30, 2020 01:08
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Obligatum VII posted:They made a lovely anime that probably did poorly and completely dumpstered any hope of a series revival. I swear Capcom does this kind of stuff on purpose. It's probably still happening it's just that for awhile the director behind the first game was busy with DMC V.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:00
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Clarste posted:Whenever anyone mentions this game they say something like "well, the story is unpleasant but at least the gameplay is nice" and then I say that the gameplay is trash too, but no one ever listens. it's almost like people have different tastes when it comes to gameplay #wow #woah
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Dec 30, 2020 02:20
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Sakurazuka posted:Graces F on the PS3 or Abyss on the 3DS. If you don't have either of those consoles lying around nothing really.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:21
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Sab Sabbington posted:I literally can't believe this game never got a real sequel and it's devolved to the point where a buddy and I joke--sadly--whenever big game reveal events are happening that something Must Be Dragon's Dogma 2, Finally, whenever something even vaguely similar shows up. RIP Dragon's Dogma Online, had insanely good mechanical evolution over the original and ended service about a year ago. All I want from DD2 is the classes from the MMO.
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Dec 30, 2020 02:27
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Commander Keene posted:Did they change anything on 3DS to make it (Abyss) attractive to someone who already owns the PS2 version? All I remember is less loading and that they fixed the Asch keep glitch
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Dec 30, 2020 02:28
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Barudak posted:4) This is slightly petty but you can find items that give you additional art for each class so you can go from 3 options for each class to four. These items are called "Third Palette" Sounds reasonable. Clearly one of the palettes is meant to be the default, aka "Palette Zero". 
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dragon's dogma but it's also breath of the wild
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I was joking in my last post rambling about the story but they just went and did it and the game makes even less sense now. "Remember when I said a bunch of nonsensical bullshit that required people to act weird for no reason? Haha here's more and even stupider!" One of the central characters makes absolutely 0% sense now that I know the backstory that Im half expecting the game to have to asspull another twist out of its rear end and tell me nothing in the game is real its all just a story being written by a hack author because this is incorrigibly stupid. On a related note, the game has mandatory "two boys get horribly abused and delimbed" puppet shows as part of its story and I can see how, tangentially, they relate to the narrative but its such a waste of motif and writing time that its almost insulting. Oh and in general if you have issues reading about people's eyeballs getting damaged in various horrible ways this is not the game for you because it lives for eyeball destruction
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Clarste posted:Whenever anyone mentions this game they say something like "well, the story is unpleasant but at least the gameplay is nice" and then I say that the gameplay is trash too, but no one ever listens. If atlus would hurry the gently caress up with etrian odyssey we wouldn't need this second tier trash for switch dungeon crawling
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Dpulex posted:If atlus would hurry the gently caress up with etrian odyssey we wouldn't need this second tier trash for switch dungeon crawling Apparently Experience Incs double pack of Savior of Sapphire Wings/Stranger of Sword City with both versions being the enhanced ones (seriously, why were these vita only???) is coming in January to both PC and Switch I think Stranger of Sword City needs a better teleport system if it wants me to play again after the horrific slog the first one turned into
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Srice posted:It's probably still happening it's just that for awhile the director behind the first game was busy with DMC V. Yeah they've been really open about wanting to do it after they're done with DMC5 but they could always be doing something else first. Dragon's Dogma with non-obtuse quests, fast travelling and affection would be great.
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bewilderment posted:Yeah they've been really open about wanting to do it after they're done with DMC5 but they could always be doing something else first. I refuse to accept a Dragon's Dogma that doesn't have the loving hilarious affection system the original had.
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ImpAtom posted:I refuse to accept a Dragon's Dogma that doesn't have the loving hilarious affection system the original had. They should make the jester romance the canon ending to the first game.
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IShallRiseAgain posted:They should make the jester romance the canon ending to the first game. That doesn't sound like Fournival.
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Commander Keene posted:Did they change anything on 3DS to make it (Abyss) attractive to someone who already owns the PS2 version? Actually release it where I live
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My big hope if we get a Dragons Dogma sequel in the future, outside it being good is they rip the housing system from MH World. Let me loot dungeons and fill my house with fancy furniture I robbed from goblins or something. You have a house in DD that never goes anywhere so I think it was sorta planned even then?ImpAtom posted:I refuse to accept a Dragon's Dogma that doesn't have the loving hilarious affection system the original had. Agreed. Fix the other jank, but this has to stay. Sakurazuka posted:Graces F on the PS3 or Abyss on the 3DS. If you don't have either of those consoles lying around nothing really. Yeah this is the best option if you can pull it off. Especially Graces F. Looper posted:i don't know much about touhou but i do know that beryl is a fun character Okay she's less Marisa up close.
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the recent massive Capcom hack confirmed that Dragon's Dogma 2 is indeed currently in development, with a planned release date of mid 2022
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ImpAtom posted:I refuse to accept a Dragon's Dogma that doesn't have the loving hilarious affection system the original had. I played this so long ago that I forget how this worked. When I think of Dragon's Dogma jank, I think of the insane pawn system conversations. TIS WEAK TO FIRE. Actually my favourite is something along the lines of "Look at that big tree. If you go up to it, it looks bigger."
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"Tis a big tree <pause as you approach> Tis bigger up close" The patched the beloved system because like 90% of players had the shopkeeper
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I've got a new pc with good specs for the first time in my life and I'd like suggestions on what 'modern' rpg to play on it. No cyberpunk please, but I was looking at nier or nioh. Any others I should look at? I played pillars of eternity 1 and 2 and divinity 1 and 2 and enjoyed them but the combat got boring after a while. I've played all the dark souls and enjoyed them a lot. I'm not tied to the action rpg though, I've played jrpgs and enjoyed them too.
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lih posted:the recent massive Capcom hack confirmed that Dragon's Dogma 2 is indeed currently in development, with a planned release date of mid 2022 Yeah and itsuno was always clearly doing something after DMC 5 Wonder who they'll get for combat director now that the guy who did DragDog 1 is over at S-E
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Spikes32 posted:I've got a new pc with good specs for the first time in my life and I'd like suggestions on what 'modern' rpg to play on it. No cyberpunk please, but I was looking at nier or nioh. Any others I should look at? Yakuza
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Tae posted:Yakuza
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The final boss of the standard ending of Labyrinth of Refrain is incredibly stupidly designed. If you attempt to fight it like any other boss it just dumps on you from a great height and will all but guaranteed to wipe you in a few turns. The trick is if you find a secret chest hidden behind a secret boss hidden in a secret area, it has a coven with a single spell which again you can't see what it does until you equip it and get into a fight. Use this insanely expensive spell (it costs 900mp when the next most expensive skill I've seen is 250) in the final boss fight and you'll have to try to lose. It seals off the instant death effect and multi target damage from the boss and makes its spells take an extra turn to charge so you basically just survive her first hit and then click autoattack until it ends. This spell only works on the final boss, by the by, so this entire thing has no other use or purpose. It then sends you to the ending and asks you to save your game in a new slot. This time though, it absolutely isn't loving around, this is a dead save you're making and can only be used for NG+. There is 0 indication that there is an entire other final dungeon and 6 secret super bosses guarding it that must be defeated prior to fighting the final boss or else again, game just ends. There is a giant humanoid bossfight with a glowing light covering his dong, so oh hey tact. Then you can fight a secret boss which is a giant humanoid woman who is invulnerable until you use a spell to rip off her clothes and then blow up a modesty satellite hovering over her crotch. Woooooo!!!! Spikes32 posted:I've got a new pc with good specs for the first time in my life and I'd like suggestions on what 'modern' rpg to play on it. No cyberpunk please, but I was looking at nier or nioh. Any others I should look at? Yakuza Barudak fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Alright that's pretty clear I'll start playing it immediately
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Spikes32 posted:Alright that's pretty clear I'll start playing it immediately Yakuza
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Spikes32 posted:Alright that's pretty clear I'll start playing it immediately Yakuza 0 or Like a Dragon (7) are the recommended starts. 0 is the start of Kiryu's seven game story and a brawler with rpg elements. LAD is the start of a new protagonist's story and a traditional JRPG.
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So I, unexpectedly, ended up bouncing off of Etrian Odyssey 4 hard and am gonna sit on it for a while until I can revisit it on actual 3DS hardware. I've no idea when I started getting so picky about my RPGs since I used to just devour anything tossed in front of me, but here I am. I can't recall if I asked this before in this thread, but does anyone know of any non-Switch, relatively modern stuff with base building/upgrading or some form of semi-detached metaprogression? Rune Factory 5 that's supposed to drop next year has me hype. I haven't checked out the subgenre since I grabbed Ys VIII a while back and am hoping I can find something new before I go replay Dark Cloud 2 for the 10th time. Anyone have any strong opinions on the Atelier series, and think that might scratch a similar itch?
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Sab Sabbington posted:So I, unexpectedly, ended up bouncing off of Etrian Odyssey 4 hard and am gonna sit on it for a while until I can revisit it on actual 3DS hardware. I've no idea when I started getting so picky about my RPGs since I used to just devour anything tossed in front of me, but here I am. might I suggest this little-know indie gem called Hades?
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multijoe posted:might I suggest this little-know indie gem called Hades? Oh wow I've never heard of this before, that Sisyphus character and his best friend look really wholesome!
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