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WorldsStongestNerd posted:That is pretty bad. However I wonder if people like that legitimately can't help themselves, and how much is genetic or cultural. It's definitely something about that personality type, whatever the cause, astronauts have absolutely atrocious relationship survival rates. Reading about the early days of American space flight is ridiculous, none of them are ever at home, and nearly all of them are cheating on their wives on the regular, with the marriages only staying intact because getting divorced meant you wouldn't get to fly.
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What the hell is the point of bringing apollo 11 moon rocks to Everest? "These rocks have been contaminated by human poo poo from a mountain, they are now useless to science"
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Cojawfee posted:What the hell is the point of bringing apollo 11 moon rocks to Everest? "These rocks have been contaminated by human poo poo from a mountain, they are now useless to science" maybe these were some of the moon rocks that were already contaminated with human poo poo from when that nasa researcher went nuts and stole them, then drove cross country wearing a diaper
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PittTheElder posted:It's definitely something about that personality type, whatever the cause, astronauts have absolutely atrocious relationship survival rates. Reading about the early days of American space flight is ridiculous, none of them are ever at home, and nearly all of them are cheating on their wives on the regular, with the marriages only staying intact because getting divorced meant you wouldn't get to fly. Is it not equally that society, especially back them, would demand that they get married and have kids? Discriminate against them as candidates if they did not, even? Whereas now I would tentatively say that if you live to fly or are married to the job or whatever, perhaps you should consider forgoing a nuclear family and white picket fence. Not that people won't go on treating their spouse and children like particularly expensive, fancy furniture today of course
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Cojawfee posted:What the hell is the point of bringing apollo 11 moon rocks to Everest? "These rocks have been contaminated by human poo poo from a mountain, they are now useless to science" there's a piece of video art where a guy fills a bucket with water from the Red Sea and then drives to the Black Sea and dumps it there, same basic principle of "whoa dude  "
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:Yeah, people who choose to climb K2 tend to actually know what they are getting into. I hope they beat the odds. But, man, there's a reason it's never been summited in winter. holy moly this movie owns
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Hearing that one dude scream Zut Alor as he hurdles down a 70 degree slope is something elseStrategic Tea posted:Is it not equally that society, especially back them, would demand that they get married and have kids? Discriminate against them as candidates if they did not, even? I don't know about kids, but yes. If I'm remembering my affairs correctly, Donn Eisele was pretty convinced he got turfed from the flight rotation after his wife divorced him (and he quickly remarried the other woman). It was also partially about macho bullshit too, Rusty Schweickart got pulled from further flights after he admitted he'd had a pretty bad space adaptation sickness his first day; to hear the astronauts tell it afterwards that was the case for about half of them, he was just the first to admit it to the doctors/management.
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Klyith posted:maybe these were some of the moon rocks that were already contaminated with human poo poo from when that nasa researcher went nuts and stole them, then drove cross country wearing a diaper She really took moon rocks with her? 
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Buttcoin purse posted:She really took moon rocks with her? The Ras P. Berry school of revenge.
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Sigmund Fraud posted:https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10156275046798216 It's only appropriate to follow Ueli and David with another germanic alpinist: Hansjörg Auer in possibly the sketchiest rappel ever caught on tape. I read the description of his equipment and I was thinking "then what is the rope going to attach to ... OH GOD"
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PittTheElder posted:It was also partially about macho bullshit too, Rusty Schweickart got pulled from further flights after he admitted he'd had a pretty bad space adaptation sickness his first day; to hear the astronauts tell it afterwards that was the case for about half of them, he was just the first to admit it to the doctors/management. Macho astronaut bullshit reminds me. IIRC, every few days or so in space a cosmic ray might pass through an astronauts eyeball, creating a tiny but visible flash of Cerenkov radiation. These rare mysterious eyeball flashes were known by astronauts as soon as they started making days-long flights, but wasn't acknowledged until well into the space program because astronauts didn't know what the phenomenon was but figured they'd get grounded or laughed at if they mentioned a minor visual disturbance. I forget who finally spilled the beans and reported it, but up 'til then it was just one of those deals where everyone knows a little secret, but nobody realizes that everyone knows, and nobody wants to be the first to mention it, so it just adds to the general background anxiety levels.
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Cojawfee posted:What the hell is the point of bringing apollo 11 moon rocks to Everest? "These rocks have been contaminated by human poo poo from a mountain, they are now useless to science" After Apollo 11, a decent sized rock was chosen to be broken up into little bits, which were then encased in lucite discs and sent to various countries as diplomatic gifts. This sample he took to Everest was apparently one of those discs Nasa just had laying around. According to the book, they FedExed the sample and left it on his porch. Also, he nicked a piece of rock from the summit, thinking it would look cool to have the two samples in a museum side by side. He never mentions if that museum display ever came about.
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DuckConference posted:I read the description of his equipment and I was thinking "then what is the rope going to attach to ... OH GOD" Seriously, I don’t have issues watching climbing stuff usually, but good lord did I freak out and yell at my monitor when this happened. No loving way could I trust that.
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PittTheElder posted:It's definitely something about that personality type, whatever the cause, astronauts have absolutely atrocious relationship survival rates. Reading about the early days of American space flight is ridiculous, none of them are ever at home, and nearly all of them are cheating on their wives on the regular, with the marriages only staying intact because getting divorced meant you wouldn't get to fly. IIRC the originals were all fighter pilots, who are famous for loving around. High-adrenaline-need personalities + toxic masculinity for the win.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:IIRC the originals were all fighter pilots, who are famous for loving around. High-adrenaline-need personalities + toxic masculinity for the win. I've read about a dozen astronaut biographies, mostly Apollo era, and one of the big takeaways is that Alan Shepard was a twat. But he was our twat, and just the twat we needed to get the job done. Edit; spelled Al's name right. Nice Tuckpointing! fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jan 11, 2021 |
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Yeah most of them were complete assholes. Mike Collins, Jim Lovell, and Charlie Duke stand out as probably the most famous non-rear end in a top hat astronauts of the era.
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Meanwhile, John Glenn and his wife Annie were married for 73 years. Clip from The Right Stuff of Glenn (Ed Harris) being a total bro of a husband: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnjctxFyFLU
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Nice Tuckpointing! posted:After Apollo 11, a decent sized rock was chosen to be broken up into little bits, which were then encased in lucite discs and sent to various countries as diplomatic gifts. This sample he took to Everest was apparently one of those discs Nasa just had laying around. According to the book, they FedExed the sample and left it on his porch. Not Everest related, really, but interesting story that quite a few of those gifted moon rocks are missing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_and_missing_Moon_rocks
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah most of them were complete assholes. Mike Collins, Jim Lovell, and Charlie Duke stand out as probably the most famous non-rear end in a top hat astronauts of the era. I've met all three, and, yeah, they were pretty chill. I also almost stepped on Marilyn Lovell's foot and she couldn't have been more of a sweetheart about it. ("Well, if you're a fan of the space program, you should say hi to my husband, Jim. Don't be shy, he's right over there!" And that's how I got to shoot the breeze with the Lovells for two minutes. Swell folks.)
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah most of them were complete assholes. Mike Collins, Jim Lovell, and Charlie Duke stand out as probably the most famous non-rear end in a top hat astronauts of the era. Back then you used to have to poo poo into a bag in space, and then you'd have to put this enzyme into the bag with the poo poo in it and mash it around. Because if you just tied a bag of poo poo off, the bacteria give off gas that make the bag of turds explode. Mashing up the poo poo bag was a deeply unpleasant task that astronauts hated. When Jim Lovell commanded missions, he would order the astronauts under him to mash up HIS poo poo bags.
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PostNouveau posted:Back then you used to have to poo poo into a bag in space, and then you'd have to put this enzyme into the bag with the poo poo in it and mash it around. Because if you just tied a bag of poo poo off, the bacteria give off gas that make the bag of turds explode. The story as told in "Packing for Mars" is that he did that to Frank Borman (his commander on Gemini VII and Apollo 8) as "a test of a good friend." Which sounds exactly like a Jim Lovell thing to say. Edit; Though I do like the image of Lovell telling the guys on Apollo 13, "Hey Freddo and Jack, after we get this jerry-rigged CO2 scrubber working, don't forget you're on poo poo-smashing duty." Nice Tuckpointing! fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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It's lame how people don't do something cool when they die on everest like gently caress being forever remembered as green boots when you could be remembered as guy who tucked his ankles behind his ears and shoved a hiking stick up his rear end?????
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It's easy to forget such things when your brain is busy pushing itself down your spinal column in search of more oxygen
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GAYIDS posted:It's lame how people don't do something cool when they die on everest like gently caress being forever remembered as green boots when you could be remembered as guy who tucked his ankles behind his ears and shoved a hiking stick up his rear end????? Yeah, it's hello.jpg not armstrongjump.jpg
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ilmucche posted:I have a friend who is way in deep with the wim hof method. Is it really all that? Mixed bag. He’s among the most legit “guru’s” out there in that he can actually do pretty extrémeme stuff and coach people to do pretty extreme stuff verified in actual studies but he also makes a lot of wild claims since he doesn’t actually know anything about biology and medicine. He definitely has trained people in techniques to be able to withstand conditions in ways you wouldn’t think possible so that’s pretty rad but take everything he says with a grain of salt.
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PittTheElder posted:It's definitely something about that personality type, whatever the cause, astronauts have absolutely atrocious relationship survival rates. Reading about the early days of American space flight is ridiculous, none of them are ever at home, and nearly all of them are cheating on their wives on the regular, with the marriages only staying intact because getting divorced meant you wouldn't get to fly. A bit of a tangent but of all things to skimp on, NASA has terrible death benefits for astronauts. The Apollo crews got together and signed a bunch of commemorative postcards for their wives to sell off if they died. I imagine stuff like that doesn't help with relationships.
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Pekinduck posted:A bit of a tangent but of all things to skimp on, NASA has terrible death benefits for astronauts. The Apollo crews got together and signed a bunch of commemorative postcards for their wives to sell off if they died. I imagine stuff like that doesn't help with relationships. Yeah. Basically they were paid bog-standard government salaries. The event where I met a bunch of them was one of those meet-and-greet things. Each astro had his or her own table and sign behind them. On the table was a price list for autographs. Bruce McCandless only charged $80 for a signed 8"x10". Extra $10 to personalize it. The more famous guys charged much more. I'm not much of an autograph hound, but I got a couple. And later, in the restroom, I said to my friend, "Well, I can comfort myself in the knowledge that I contributed to Michael Collins' grandkid college fund." Which was probably not too far from the truth.
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It's been linked before but the fresh discussion of K2 reminded me of it. If you want a well written report on what it's like to summit and descend K2 and really get a feel on how utterly physically and mentally taxing it is, check out Alan Arnette's blogs from it. Specifically these two: https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2014/08/27/k2-summit-unkowns/ quote:Standing at a full stop I was surrounded by nothing. https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2014/09/04/k2-descending-real-climb/ quote:I was so tired I could barely stand up. My lungs were hurting so badly, I couldn’t take more than two breaths without a hard, painful cough. I was so dehydrated, I spit back up any water that trickled into my throat. Aphex- fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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Pekinduck posted:The Apollo crews got together and signed a bunch of commemorative postcards for their wives to sell off if they died. I imagine stuff like that doesn't help with relationships. Christ that must have been a grim meeting
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DuckConference posted:I read the description of his equipment and I was thinking "then what is the rope going to attach to ... OH GOD" This comment made me click that and and 
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I wonder if any couple has gone for the, "First to have sex on Everest," and if so, how high up they managed. I mean, people have done it while skydiving, scuba diving... One of the most asked questions of astronauts is whether anyone has done it in space. Might as well go for that record if you're willing to risk losing your dong to frostbite.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I wonder if any couple has gone for the, "First to have sex on Everest," and if so, how high up they managed. I mean, people have done it while skydiving, scuba diving... One of the most asked questions of astronauts is whether anyone has done it in space. Might as well go for that record if you're willing to risk losing your dong to frostbite. its very not allowed because of sherpa religious beliefs apparently, but im sure it's been done. definitely at base camp, probably even higher.
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I'd have a hard time believing nobody had ever got it on at the South Col, if only just to try it. Sleep's not easy (or even advisable?) at that altitude anyway.
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Real talk, I'm honestly not sure I could get it up at that sort of altitude and Viagra might do something weird with the sickness. Leave that to the younger men.
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The Walrus posted:its very not allowed because of sherpa religious beliefs apparently, but im sure it's been done. definitely at base camp, probably even higher. You've got a point, the sherpa are universally respected and treated with deference.
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How would you even get horny under such physical and mental stress
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Phi230 posted:How would you even get horny under such physical and mental stress Ever tried dungeon roleplay?
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I'm thinking losing your thingy to instant frostbite, while you gasp for air with every sad attempt at thrusting your rapidly blackening wanger into a supposedly consenting (but so brain-damaged from altitude that nah not really) fuckpal is probably not worth it even if you got some bragging rights for doing it. Plus you just know Hillary or someone in his party was probably the first anyway.
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The Walrus posted:its very not allowed because of sherpa religious beliefs apparently, but im sure it's been done. definitely at base camp, probably even higher. IIRC Krakauer mentions this at one point in Into Thin Air. He doesn't name any names, but apparently there was a couple loving in a tent on the mountain at some point during the 1996 expedition. Can't remember if it was in base camp or higher up, but apparently the sherpas were loving furious.
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Didn't Krakauer accuse some lady journalist of sleeping with people on the mountain and also not being serious because she had a fancy coffee maker?
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