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Starks posted:Actually, Bosnia is only like 50% Muslim so it’s theoretically possible that the Serbs and Croats there are doing enough drinking for everyone. Rofl no no no 100 times no
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What’s more interesting to me is that apparently the muslim prohibition on booze affects Thrace but not Bosnia or Albania. I guess that’s turkish law + influence of communism on religious fervour? Please allow me to explain Bosnia's attitude to alcohol 
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This shocks me because I've been told all Austrian women smoke.
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Groda posted:Rofl no no no 100 times no Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Please allow me to explain Bosnia's attitude to alcohol Lol
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Yeah Islam forbids alcohol but there are also lots of people in every religion who don't exactly follow all the rules.
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Kinda tired of the Balkans being called a peninsula when they’re wide af
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Kinda tired of the Balkans being called a peninsula when they’re wide af Hot take: Europe is a peninsula
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Hot take: Europe is a peninsula
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Hot take: Europe is a peninsula The European Peninsula I can dig it.
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a fatguy baldspot posted:Kinda tired of the Balkans being called a peninsula when they’re wide af It's the result of modern maps descending from naval tradition. Landmasses can only be defined by the waterways that surround them. Maybe someday they'll get upgraded to a subcontinent.
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Orange Devil posted:This shocks me because I've been told all Austrian women smoke. I was reading the Wikipedia article on cigarette usage and their map had Austria as the place with the highest % of women smokers for sure
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:What’s more interesting to me is that apparently the muslim prohibition on booze affects Thrace but not Bosnia or Albania. I guess that’s turkish law + influence of communism on religious fervour? easily explained https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3k2MOJOkKg
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I still want people to call it the European Subcontinent.
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The European Subcontinent has less diversity in ethnicity, language, history, cuisine, topography, climate, religion, and material culture than the other major Subcontinent. It's just a fact. Or a series of facts.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah Islam forbids alcohol but there are also lots of people in every religion who don't exactly follow all the rules. Muslims aren’t a hivemind, any more than Christians. Balkan Muslims are Hanafi Sunnis, and tend to hold that only alcohol made from grapes or dates are what is prohibited.
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PawParole posted:Muslims aren’t a hivemind, any more than Christians. Balkan Muslims are Hanafi Sunnis, and tend to hold that only alcohol made from grapes or dates are what is prohibited. Must be the reason that rye whisky keeps flying off the shelves! Joking aside, I know many Bosnian and Albanian Muslims, some are close friends. They are just your average modern Europeans who mix and match their religious traditions to their liking, same as anyone else. Some of them will, for instance, drink alcohol but will never eat pork. Others are quite strict about alcohol but never go to the mosque, and so on. Attitudes are lax, same as with Christians in Europe.
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Please allow me to explain Bosnia's attitude to alcohol blessed
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Please allow me to explain Bosnia's attitude to alcohol That guy is my hero
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah Islam forbids alcohol but there are also lots of people in every religion who don't exactly follow all the rules. Indeed, consider raki, a specifically Turkish liquor. Maybe the Ottoman Empire held on for as long as it did because of booze.
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Pope Hilarius II posted:Indeed, consider raki, a specifically Turkish liquor. Maybe the Ottoman Empire held on for as long as it did because of booze. Hence my original question of why turkish Thrace consumes so much less booze than anyone else. That’s not exactly an Erdogan/Islamist stronghold region
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PawParole posted:Muslims aren’t a hivemind, any more than Christians. Balkan Muslims are Hanafi Sunnis, and tend to hold that only alcohol made from grapes or dates are what is prohibited. And didn't Iran used to be a complete boomtown for wine consumption until the revolution?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Hot take: Europe is a peninsula South America is a peninsula
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Arabia is a subcontinent.
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PittTheElder posted:And didn't Iran used to be a complete boomtown for wine consumption until the revolution? I don't know about consumption but Persian wine was well regarded outside the country so I imagine they produced a lot of it. It's still make in secret, in smaller quantities of course.
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PittTheElder posted:And didn't Iran used to be a complete boomtown for wine consumption until the revolution? Shiraz is a place in Iran
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Shiraz is a place in Iran and pretty much the birthplace of wine
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The Bektashi Order used to be pretty big in the Balkans and still have some presence. Here's some old jokes about them from Wikipedia: quote:A Bektashi was praying in the mosque. While those around him were praying "May God grant me faith," he muttered "May God grant me plenty of wine." The imam heard him and asked angrily why instead of asking for faith like everyone else, he was asking God for something sinful. The Bektashi replied, "Well, everyone asks for what they don't have." also from what I´ve read Bektashis with big iron spikes were in high demand as vampire slayers during the 17th century though they were not thought to be quite as effective as the sons of vampires, people born on a Saturday, or the Romani. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jan 6, 2021 |
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Deltasquid posted:
I like that the mountainous parts of Europe sank first
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PittTheElder posted:I like that the mountainous parts of Europe sank first They're heavier, so of course! 
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Platystemon posted:Arabia is a subcontinent. A longer history than Europe
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Deltasquid posted:
Game was pretty fun but had some but had some weird jews/romani analogue things going on with it.
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Fantasy world racial analogues often get really weird, and it gets weirder when you throw a cultural and language divide in. I think the Darcsen thing is okay, all things considered, but the Valkyrur are a lot weirder. The ancient race of conquerors who came to alt-europe and had incredible magic powers, but eventually went basically extinct after their bloodline being diluted by interbreeding, but there are still some people who can occasionally manifest those powers again. Also at some point in their conquest they used apocalypticly powerful superweapons that left scars in the landscape and somehow rewrote history to blame it on one of the peoples they devastated, the Darcsen, calling it the "Darcsen Calamity". Anime is weird. It's also a fun game, a neat turn-based system where you have to manually control each character as they run around and shoot targets, but it has issues with pacing between long anime cutscenes and just slow scene transitions.
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Count Roland posted:That guy is my hero Everyone forgot to bring their magazines but one guy remembered to bring the beer.
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GoutPatrol posted:Game was pretty fun but had some but had some weird jews/romani analogue things going on with it. Yeah I kind of had to hold up my hands and give up on it after you went straight from a level where you liberated a concentration camp to a beach holiday episode.
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It explores race in the most hamfisted way possible, as is appropriate for a JRPG where tank commanders invoke the power of friendship to one-hit kill a nazi superweapon analogy. The Darcsen struck me as a Jewish and Romani analogy, but also they were the original inhabitants of Europa and have names like Aoife so they're also meant to be blue-haired anime Celts in a way. But the main thing that confuses me about the map is all the Belgian place names (Chimay? Terneuzen? Aalast? Ostende? Verviers? Liege, Arlon and Ypres? A SECOND Terneuzen halfway across Europe??) scattered around the map... Except in Gallia, which is explicitly introduced as fantasy Benelux. Gallia is somehow also the only nonaligned country in all of Europa.
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The japanese don't have any more of a nuanced, accurate, or sensitive view of european cultures than we do of east asian ones. They took a bunch of tropes and ran with it.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:The japanese don't have any more of a nuanced, accurate, or sensitive view of european cultures than we do of east asian ones. They took a bunch of tropes and ran with it. Would the japanese be very wrong if they imagined Hitler was Italian?
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Deltasquid posted:It explores race in the most hamfisted way possible, as is appropriate for a JRPG where tank commanders invoke the power of friendship to one-hit kill a nazi superweapon analogy. It's more that Gallia's one of only two unaligned nations left. And then Gallia's turn comes to discover neutrality doesn't stop the Empire any better than it did IRL Germany. The tank/gun selections for the various nations are as baffling a mishmash as the racial/geographic/cultural stuff so I definitely agree with Edgar Allen Ho about the devs just running with a mishmash of tropes.
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