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strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

I did not know Steven Seagal was a Goon. It makes sense tho
Uh oh. You mentioned Steven Seagal in Chinathread. Now I have to remind everyone that this masterpiece exists:

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Even though the EU is very popular in the States (because it is at odds with Euro right wingers), it is a totally spineless organisation that stands for convenience and not rocking the boat above all.

See also the Russia-Germany gas pipeline (gently caress Ukraine right?) l, and the total surrender of democracy in Turkey in a deal to divert Mediterranian migrants there, where I'm sure they are very well treated and never heard from again.

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

Strategic Tea posted:

Even though the EU is very popular in the States (because it is at odds with Euro right wingers), it is a totally spineless organisation that stands for convenience and not rocking the boat above all.

See also the Russia-Germany gas pipeline (gently caress Ukraine right?) l, and the total surrender of democracy in Turkey in a deal to divert Mediterranian migrants there, where I'm sure they are very well treated and never heard from again.

See also : Vaccine distribution via EU bureaucracy. Now nobody has enough Vaccines,instead of only some countries.

Stink Billyums
Jul 7, 2006

MAGNUM

strange feelings re Daisy posted:

Uh oh. You mentioned Steven Seagal in Chinathread. Now I have to remind everyone that this masterpiece exists:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1IzA4-3u1w&t=144s

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Holy lmao

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007


Holy lol.

That is amazing

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

oohhboy posted:

Hahahahhaahahahhh

https://twitter.com/FijiPM/status/1346973274832465922

Context: This guy lead 2 successful coups in Fiji.


Bainimarama is the best thing to ever happen to Fiji. His first "coup" was declaring martial law and kicking out George Speight's coup, the fourth such in two decades. After the democratically elected government decided to just pardon Speight's mob, he did an actual coup. He pretty quickly got the country back to being a functioning democracy again and has afaik reduced the significant ethnic tensions in Fiji between native Fijians and Indians to an all time low. I am unaware of any claims of impropriety in Fiji's 2018 election.


Edit: I'm the recoil on the RPGs in that China salesman clip.

Weka fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jan 8, 2021

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I am the black dude acting circles around the two leads.

Hell, Sam Worthington would be competitive.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
https://www.state.gov/lifting-self-imposed-restrictions-on-the-u-s-taiwan-relationship/

quote:

Taiwan is a vibrant democracy and reliable partner of the United States, and yet for several decades the State Department has created complex internal restrictions to regulate our diplomats, servicemembers, and other officials’ interactions with their Taiwanese counterparts. The United States government took these actions unilaterally, in an attempt to appease the Communist regime in Beijing. No more.

Today I am announcing that I am lifting all of these self-imposed restrictions. Executive branch agencies should consider all “contact guidelines” regarding relations with Taiwan previously issued by the Department of State under authorities delegated to the Secretary of State to be null and void.

Additionally, any and all sections of the Foreign Affairs Manual or Foreign Affairs Handbook that convey authorities or otherwise purport to regulate executive branch engagement with Taiwan via any entity other than the American Institute in Taiwan (AIT) are also hereby voided. The executive branch‘s relations with Taiwan are to be handled by the non-profit AIT, as stipulated in the Taiwan Relations Act.

The United States government maintains relationships with unofficial partners around the world, and Taiwan is no exception. Our two democracies share common values of individual freedom, the rule of law, and a respect for human dignity. Today’s statement recognizes that the U.S.-Taiwan relationship need not, and should not, be shackled by self-imposed restrictions of our permanent bureaucracy.

a couple of expat families i know around here are openly wondering if this will be interpreted as a declaration of war on the CCP's side

e: it's difficult to say if this is a donny t idea. the press release is from the secretary of state and i can't find any sort of release about donny signing off on it. which on one level isn't a surprise, he's a seditionist in the eyes of most of the country right now, but on another level that means i don't know if this is the secretary of state going rogue while he can or not :lol:

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jan 10, 2021

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


sugoi if true

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
So long as it doesn't end up in a war, good on 'em.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/ChineseEmbinUS/status/1347224755485749249?s=20

The best thing about the PRC's campaign of "population change" (NOT GENOCIDE) is that it's resulting in "population improvement" (again, NOT GENOCIDE), by replacing bad populations with good ones.

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
"population quality”

:waycool: :bravo:

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Coolguye posted:

https://www.state.gov/lifting-self-imposed-restrictions-on-the-u-s-taiwan-relationship/


a couple of expat families i know around here are openly wondering if this will be interpreted as a declaration of war on the CCP's side

e: it's difficult to say if this is a donny t idea. the press release is from the secretary of state and i can't find any sort of release about donny signing off on it. which on one level isn't a surprise, he's a seditionist in the eyes of most of the country right now, but on another level that means i don't know if this is the secretary of state going rogue while he can or not :lol:

Holy poo poo what the gently caress

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

Rinkles posted:

"population quality”

:waycool: :bravo:

More Han = Better than

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Here's some frivolous, charming, and heartwarming Chinese content.
One of those "reaction" videos where they get people of one ethnicity to try the food/snacks/TV Shows etc. of anther ethnicity.
This one has a middle aged Chinese couple from Qingdao trying Mexican food for the first time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3vvC-SPwIU
I think the couple in it are adorable.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Dont Touch ME posted:

Holy poo poo what the gently caress

Yeah this, I'm not seeing any reaction yet on any news media. Of course Donny's shock troops have stolen all the attention but I would think China would already have reacted somehow.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
What are the odds Biden walks it back?
Seems like trump or Republicans trying to make him look weak on China if he does or sour his relationships if he doesn't.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Coolguye posted:

https://www.state.gov/lifting-self-imposed-restrictions-on-the-u-s-taiwan-relationship/


a couple of expat families i know around here are openly wondering if this will be interpreted as a declaration of war on the CCP's side

e: it's difficult to say if this is a donny t idea. the press release is from the secretary of state and i can't find any sort of release about donny signing off on it. which on one level isn't a surprise, he's a seditionist in the eyes of most of the country right now, but on another level that means i don't know if this is the secretary of state going rogue while he can or not :lol:

It seems only to be loosening procedural rules and restrictions on how US diplomats interact with their Taiwanese counterparts. It’s not a recognition of the ROC as either the rightful government of China or its own sovereign nation. It’s not anymore provocative than the billions in weapons we’ve been selling to Taiwan. The US still ascribes to the one China policy, that Taiwan is a province of China but with a separate government from the mainland. The red line for the PRC would be any move towards full Taiwanese independence.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Jan 10, 2021

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

***Lip Smacking Trigger Warning***

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

peanut posted:

sugoi if true

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Weka posted:

What are the odds Biden walks it back?
Seems like trump or Republicans trying to make him look weak on China if he does or sour his relationships if he doesn't.

There’s no reason to. Engaging with China just means they literally call you a bitch the second you try to hold them responsible for anything so it’s not like the trade deal and soft power days of Jintao. Relationships inside of China no longer mean anything, and relationships outside of China have been getting soured for a decade as Xinping continues to make everyone mad. Ending the policy of pretending Taiwan doesn’t exist is a direct attack on the CCP’s view of the planet, though, so it’s a pretty big deal to take the step - there probably would have been fallout if it was done pretty much any other week.

This is kind of a bit of dirty work that even Obama would have benefitted from doing 3 months after he did it, and now a possibly rogue Secretary of State just did it. Biden will just wait those 3 months and let Donny take the ‘credit’ just as the FBI arrests him for sedition or tax evasion (you know, whichever path they want to take for nailing his bloated rear end to the wall).

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

I’m not really seeing anyway this actually protects anyone, it just forces more people to stash cash in their basement like Carrie Lam?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-09/china-issues-rules-to-protect-firms-citizens-from-foreign-laws

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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lolling at China's new strategy of making laws and claiming that they apply to the entire planet

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
it works fine for the us, but thats cuz we have a big rear end stick

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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bob dobbs is dead posted:

it works fine for the us, but thats cuz we have a big rear end stick

Also because despite the whining of tankies and third world despots American laws that might apply internationally are generally pretty reasonable and most other developed countries have similar ones

snergle
Aug 3, 2013

A kind little mouse!

Coolguye posted:

There’s no reason to. Engaging with China just means they literally call you a bitch the second you try to hold them responsible for anything so it’s not like the trade deal and soft power days of Jintao. Relationships inside of China no longer mean anything, and relationships outside of China have been getting soured for a decade as Xinping continues to make everyone mad. Ending the policy of pretending Taiwan doesn’t exist is a direct attack on the CCP’s view of the planet, though, so it’s a pretty big deal to take the step - there probably would have been fallout if it was done pretty much any other week.

This is kind of a bit of dirty work that even Obama would have benefitted from doing 3 months after he did it, and now a possibly rogue Secretary of State just did it. Biden will just wait those 3 months and let Donny take the ‘credit’ just as the FBI arrests him for sedition or tax evasion (you know, whichever path they want to take for nailing his bloated rear end to the wall).

lol if you think biden wont pardon him as literally the first thing he does

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
other countries do not have fatca my man

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


https://twitter.com/BagelofDeath/status/1348397309550333955?s=20

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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bob dobbs is dead posted:

other countries do not have fatca my man

Lots of countries tax the foreign income of their citizens

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Mine does, and it's pretty drat liberal.

Actually, wait, Fojar's does as well.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
From wikipedia

"The Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) is a 2010 United States federal law requiring all non-U.S. foreign financial institutions (FFIs) to search their records for customers with indicia of a connection to the U.S"

That's a little more than taxing your overseas citizens.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
you also deduct the first bigass chunk for nearly all nation pairs

fatca is just another can of worms tho

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

It's one of the perks of being sole superpower and is a fair trade for NATO protection IMO.

I only wish my country had the clout to squeeze our tax dodging fucks worldwide

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Fojar38 posted:

Lots of countries tax the foreign income of their citizens

not in addition to local taxes, that privilege is reserved for americans, burmese, hungarians, and eritreans

e: north koreans probably also, but more de facto than de jure

vanity slug fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Jan 11, 2021

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Fojar38 posted:

Lots of countries tax the foreign income of their citizens

Mine doesn't. I haven't paid a cent of Tax to the Australian government in more than 10 years.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Considering how little care orange has for leadership, how he is only concerned with the trappings of the office (And legal immunity), wilful ignorance and his repeated love for Xi I would put all the money on Pompeo doing all these foreign policy moves. You should see how drat unhappy he was signing the HK Democracy act. Pompeo has been very active for at least 1.5-2 years if not more with quiet but critical stuff like banning export of bleeding edge chip machines and ASML. Ramping up of real blacklists etc. The last "Big" thing orange did was the Tik Tok fiasco I have little doubt was from Fox. Just because it's WH doesn't mean it's orange. When it is him it's always brain worms idea that he will claim 110%.

Besides orange is too busy re-enacting downfall. There are leaks that he is literally raging, kicking the walls, smashing stuff etc.

snergle posted:

lol if you think biden wont pardon him as literally the first thing he does

This would literally be the worse, most dumb rear end thing he can do for everyone, the safest move for him is to let congress and DoJ/DA etc have at it, completely hands off. This is the best opportunity to nail him to the wall, and it is absolutely in the interest of everyone including the republicans. If he has no path back to office he loses massive amounts of sway. Republicans are going to eat poo poo either way, impeachment means they eat less poo poo and they can get their party back.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


BrigadierSensible posted:

Mine doesn't. I haven't paid a cent of Tax to the Australian government in more than 10 years.

I paid US taxes for the first time last year. You don't have to pay anything if you live and make your money abroad unless you're making a staggering amount of money. I could not give less of a poo poo about the people who complain.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Grand Fromage posted:

I paid US taxes for the first time last year. You don't have to pay anything if you live and make your money abroad unless you're making a staggering amount of money. I could not give less of a poo poo about the people who complain.

right, what you complain about is the entire class of banks that have to surrender all your details to the us upon request

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I can't find a violin small enough to play for banks being inconvenienced.

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