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Guavanaut posted:You didn't tell us which part of a boat the dildo is. iirc it was part of a rowboat that was so particularly shaped quote:It was once used to reference a phallus-shaped pin stuck in the edging of a row boat to act as a pivot for the oar (also known as a "thole pin" or "dole pin").
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CoolCab posted:Several were lost to time - god, it was ages ago now. I have never met James Cordon nor been to that service station, of course there never was an argument about spagetti bollonese, nor do a wide number of us write S Club 7 fan sites or that puppet show with the ships erotic fiction. It was like we were receiving red texts from a better version of reality - one where our squabbles were not about nationalism but instead far purer things. Extremely disappointed to find out goddamnedtwisto never tried the S Club 7 coup.
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no comment on what's for sale at the yard sale e
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Guavanaut posted:You didn't tell us which part of a boat the dildo is.
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CoolCab posted:Several were lost to time - god, it was ages ago now. I have never met James Cordon nor been to that service station, of course there never was an argument about spagetti bollonese, nor do a wide number of us write S Club 7 fan sites or that puppet show with the ships erotic fiction. It was like we were receiving red texts from a better version of reality - one where our squabbles were not about nationalism but instead far purer things. I used to have "I tell people Tim Farron is my dad so they'll think I'm cool" with a very unfortunate picture of him (aren't they all), but have managed to piss off/entertain two more people since then, hence my current one.
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Willing to bet I am not even nearly the first person to type that phrase online today.
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OwlFancier posted:The entire concept of electoral and democratic legitimacy is contingent on enough people belieiving in it, though? Like yeah he got enough votes to win the election, but that doesn't mean people have to like it or think that it is legitimate or good? You can certainly make the argument that it is more important to preserve belief in the legitimacy of the electoral system than to have the guy you want in power, and you can also make the argument that trump is a garbage president who shouldn't be in power regardless, but in no case can you escape the fact that a crisis of the legitimacy of the governing apparatus of the US is not some unfathomable event, countries have those crises all the time because for whatever reason a sufficinet plurality of the people living there cease to buy into that particular mass hallucination that it is legitimate. It’s all good and well saying that elections only exist because of a fabricated reality we all agree on - absolutely true. But that isn’t the point I was making. No one at the Capitol today, or any of the tens of millions of people who believe the election was stolen, are criticising the very idea of elections and wondering what new systems we may be able to come up with. They’re saying it was stolen - that there was fraud. They’re using data, facts, accounts of events that objectively are false and objectively did not happen to justify that belief - and they believe those facts to be true. The people feeding them those facts almost certainly don’t, but who knows? The information is out there and because of how social media works, it has been amplified to such a degree that tens of millions of people now believe a set of events that are outright, absolutely objectively, lies. That’s what I’m getting at. We could argue black is white about the nature of truth and society and social construction but I’d argue we need to take a step back (or forward?) from that. Take a less deeply philosophical, academic view of things and for a moment just say that there are things that happen and things that don’t - take some of society’s truths as just truths for a second, just for the purpose of addressing how specifically untrue things are suddenly becoming true to millions. There’s space for other conversations about how society is fundamentally constructed obviously and the internet is great for exposing more people to those ideas too but in the realm of macro-politics those ideas will be nigh on irrelevant if half of the world ends up believing in literal harmful bullshit and we end up with a society based on that. Basically, outside of academic high level discussion and in the minds of the vast vast majority of humanity there is objective truth. That might be an inconvenient fact but it’s how it is. If we on the left spend all of our time getting wrapped up in how actual my there isn’t objective truth etc etc without tackling things at a level most people empathise with then the right will just abolish those truths and replace them with their own, as they have been doing, and with our tacit approval because remember, we don’t believe in objective truth anyway.
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OwlFancier posted:I think it's a bit stupid to say you can only exercise if you don't enjoy it. I bring drinks and sandwiches when I go for a walk because I like to stop to catch my breath and eat something when I do. Tier 6: You can only do it if it hurts.
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Off out for a run, taking my water bottle with me cuz gently caress the police
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:04 |
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Jakabite posted:It’s all good and well saying that elections only exist because of a fabricated reality we all agree on - absolutely true. But that isn’t the point I was making. No one at the Capitol today, or any of the tens of millions of people who believe the election was stolen, are criticising the very idea of elections and wondering what new systems we may be able to come up with. They’re saying it was stolen - that there was fraud. They’re using data, facts, accounts of events that objectively are false and objectively did not happen to justify that belief - and they believe those facts to be true. The people feeding them those facts almost certainly don’t, but who knows? The information is out there and because of how social media works, it has been amplified to such a degree that tens of millions of people now believe a set of events that are outright, absolutely objectively, lies. That’s what I’m getting at. We could argue black is white about the nature of truth and society and social construction but I’d argue we need to take a step back (or forward?) from that. Take a less deeply philosophical, academic view of things and for a moment just say that there are things that happen and things that don’t - take some of society’s truths as just truths for a second, just for the purpose of addressing how specifically untrue things are suddenly becoming true to millions. There’s space for other conversations about how society is fundamentally constructed obviously and the internet is great for exposing more people to those ideas too but in the realm of macro-politics those ideas will be nigh on irrelevant if half of the world ends up believing in literal harmful bullshit and we end up with a society based on that. But why does belief those ideas correlate almost entirely among party lines? I would argue that at the root of it it is because people fundamentally reject the idea of a democratic party president and the idea of the american democracy in general because it failed to return the result they wanted. The point is that they want their guy in charge, which is not a wrong thing to want in isolation! I want corbyn to be in charge of the UK if we're going to have anyone in charge of it, and if I could somehow snap my fingers and make that happen I would do it in an instant. Similarly if I could snap my fingers and make tory MPs have heart attacks until we eventually run out of them I would do that as well. But they don't phrase it that way because the people feeding them those ideas, the people who run the actual news channels and have the actual presidency, and republican party, by the way, not some random social media people, know that they can't just say "we should install trump as a dictator" because they know a lot of people are not conditoned to like the sound of that. They phrase it as "restoring democracy" and "combating fraud" because "democracy" is a patriotic buzzword to a lot of people in the US. They are selling an emotional idea made out of nationalistic fluff that robes itself in what are, ultimately, entirely meaningless words and phrases that evoke happy feelings in the brains of the people doing it and give them a feeling of righteousness to their actions, because that feeling is necessary to motivate them to act. They aren't convinced by the information, they start already believing the conclusion and then wrap that axiomatic belief in the trappings of an argument, an argument that only makes sense to them and other people who share that emotional, ideological belief. The specifics of the information are meaningless, what matters is the act of sharing it, the act of forming a community, the act of showing up with a shitload of other people all waving the flags you like and chanting and repeating the words you like to hear and holy poo poo we could just go in there and stop the fraud and free the country we'd be heroes... What you're seeing is the power of emotional community, the resonance of collective action in the heart of ordinary human beings who, like all of us, are desperate for emotional fulfillment. And it's something that happens across the political spectrum, and it's something that has happened long before social media became a thing. The form might have changed a bit, but I don't think that the substance has that much. Social media being a highly effective communication platform I think has allowed that energy to build up a bit more easily than before, and I think that the atomization of capitalism has removed many of the more traditional counternarratives such as workplace communities, but I don't think it at all holds up to say that it is somehow the result of misinformation on social media that is causing the problem. The misinformation is and always has been spread via other routes, and there have always been other ways to form communities around it. There was a good video by the Folding Ideas channel about qanon which I think goes over some of this stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44
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Endjinneer posted:Tier 6: You can only do it if it hurts. This is not a dating site.
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:10 |
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a pipe smoking dog posted:To be clear I think English Imperialism is a tool that has been used against the english working class as well as against other nations, but I think English people need to acknowledge how much it has warped their world view and recognise why Englishness is viewed so negatively by others. Well you also gotta remember that to most people outside the UK, english = british, we use it interchangeably. Same with the americans, someone from texas is a yank to us.
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:10 |
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Blaming social media for the insurrection in America is like blaming pamphleteers for the English civil war. It just happens to be the newest facilitator of communication at the moment. If we don't blame it we have to admit that the problems existed beforehand. That Douglas Adams essay from 1999 touches on these ideas- How to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love the Internet.
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:22 |
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Endjinneer posted:Blaming social media for the insurrection in America is like blaming pamphleteers for the English civil war. It just happens to be the newest facilitator of communication at the moment. If we don't blame it we have to admit that the problems existed beforehand. It's the loving Darnton Debate all over again. "Oh books caused the French Revolution, no Magazines did".
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:24 |
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Sex arses
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Jakabite posted:It’s all good and well saying that elections only exist because of a fabricated reality we all agree on - absolutely true. But that isn’t the point I was making. No one at the Capitol today, or any of the tens of millions of people who believe the election was stolen, are criticising the very idea of elections and wondering what new systems we may be able to come up with. They’re saying it was stolen - that there was fraud. They’re using data, facts, accounts of events that objectively are false and objectively did not happen to justify that belief - and they believe those facts to be true. The people feeding them those facts almost certainly don’t, but who knows? The information is out there and because of how social media works, it has been amplified to such a degree that tens of millions of people now believe a set of events that are outright, absolutely objectively, lies. That’s what I’m getting at. We could argue black is white about the nature of truth and society and social construction but I’d argue we need to take a step back (or forward?) from that. Take a less deeply philosophical, academic view of things and for a moment just say that there are things that happen and things that don’t - take some of society’s truths as just truths for a second, just for the purpose of addressing how specifically untrue things are suddenly becoming true to millions. There’s space for other conversations about how society is fundamentally constructed obviously and the internet is great for exposing more people to those ideas too but in the realm of macro-politics those ideas will be nigh on irrelevant if half of the world ends up believing in literal harmful bullshit and we end up with a society based on that. I'm put in mind of the point of the Japanese/Buddhist tea ceremony, which is meant to emphasise that forms are empty and nothing really exists and all that stuff, but then you have to pour the tea perfectly regardless EDIT as a recovering academic there's definitely a thing where I genuinely think you have to reach the most seemingly obvious or easy conclusions the hard way, leaving no stone unturned, trying to take nothing for granted, recognising the extreme difficulty inherent in epistemology or morality or whatever. But then you have to pour the tea whole-heartedly, knowing it's only ever your best guess. The right don't ever bother with that and are essentially nihilists using postmodern concepts in their least useful or appropriate ways, leftists will often do the first part but get too tangled up in it to regain any sense of confidence or certainty Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jan 9, 2021 |
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:36 |
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Sex arses caused the French Revolution.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:Sex arses I want a film made about the struggle to get those sex arses to their destination safely. Das Butt
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Ewan posted:
You sound completely nonsensical, to me. There are forms of outdoor recreation that aren't exercise, and those aren't allowed, but that doesn't mean exercise has to be unenjoyable to be allowed. We want people to exercise.They're more likely to do it if they can go somewhere nice and have a cup of tea.
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Jedit posted:Naziroquai.
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 18:43 |
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namesake posted:I want a film made about the struggle to get those sex arses to their destination safely. simpsonsdidit
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on a theme of nationalism and misinformation and insurrections, a passage from Jonathan Glover's Humanity:quote:The Belief Trap
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Can I still win the euromillions lottery? Someone from the UK won the Euromillions on the 1st of January. So yes you still CAN win the Euromillions. You won't*, but you can. * = Besides you aren't winning it, because I am going to win it next.
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ronya posted:on a theme of nationalism and misinformation and insurrections, a passage from Jonathan Glover's Humanity: i will confess, i missed you ronya during my break. i hope you're keeping okay in all this nonsense.
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Imagine getting a 4chan tattoo. Imagine walking into a tattoo place and asking for that, and somehow not walking out with 'I am a total cock' tattooed across your face and no lunch money.
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Borrovan posted:Ash Crimson has repeatedly made it clear in the past that they are actually talking about the English voters, yes all of them, and no not the Scottish Tories/Brexit voters/whatever. People who are saying "what they actually mean is..." are forgetting a whole bunch of their posts. This is true. Also I'm reasonably sure this is like the third or fourth time we've had a 10 page debate about Ash Crimson's posting, which tells you all you need to know.
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It is surely a crime to try and solicit individuals within the NHS to illegally supply you with their drugs? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55593210
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WhatEvil posted:This is true. Also I'm reasonably sure this is like the third or fourth time we've had a 10 page debate about Ash Crimson's posting, which tells you all you need to know. Are you saying they are a high impact poster?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:It is surely a crime to try and solicit individuals within the NHS to illegally supply you with their drugs? I think this is one of the reasons why we're not issuing vaccinated people with cards and telling them they can behave like they used to. The black market it would create would be fierce.
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Endjinneer posted:I think this is one of the reasons why we're not issuing vaccinated people with cards and telling them they can behave like they used to. The black market it would create would be fierce. Israel's doing that via their app, but they're actually vaccinating people properly afaik because they've got a very small population in a very small area.
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Miftan posted:Israel's doing that via their app, but they're actually vaccinating people properly afaik because they've got a very small population in a very small area. Also they’re not vaccinating Palestinians.
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Miftan posted:Israel's doing that via their app, but they're actually vaccinating people properly afaik because they've got a very small population in a very small area. Are they vaccinating Palestineans yet?
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Not So Fast posted:Are they vaccinating Palestineans yet? Noxville posted:Also they’re not vaccinating Palestinians.
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Miftan posted:Israel's doing that via their app, but they're actually vaccinating people properly afaik because they've got a very small population in a very small area.
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it should be illegal to go for a walk in the woods because you might enjoy it too much all outdoor exercise should be strictly limited to industrial estates in the cold and wet, preferably at night, in order to prevent anyone lapsing into dangerous "recreation"
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 20:26 |
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It's never going to cease to amuse me that the "Qanon shaman" really is called Jake A.
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XMNN posted:it should be illegal to go for a walk in the woods because you might enjoy it too much I like desolate cityscapes, concrete, and decay though. I can't stand sunshine, crowds or joy.
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As a good citizen, every time you leave the house you should be constantly monitoring your pupil dilation in a little mirror, ready to turn yourself in to the authorities at the first sign of pleasure
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# ? Jan 9, 2021 20:31 |
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It's those ladies fault actually, all they needed to do was chase a fox or a golf ball and they'd have been fine.
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endlessmonotony posted:I like desolate cityscapes, concrete, and decay though. Username/post combo.
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