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Olympic Mathlete posted:Speaking of Porsches in an off-road flavour, Singer are back at it again and this thing owns. Applebees Appetizer posted:Holy poo poo
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I am very much not a Porsche guy. I am very much a Singer guy. My god.
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Humphreys posted:This shows the dynamics of a few seconds on a bike. That guy is WORKING HARD for that: It's so difficult to ride a bike that hard. I don't know how they do it that fast for that long. DAY FIVE  Day five of the dakar rally was expected to be one of the more difficult stages and that certainly proved to be the case, although it looks like the issue was navigation and not the rocky terrain or the dunes.  In bikes, Ricky Brabec executed his plan to slingshot to the front with perfect form. Until he didn't and he ran into a navigation issue and now he's down 14 minutes on the day and 25 overall. Oops?  He wasn't the only one with a problem though. You can see the the fainter race line and then AVB's actual GPS tracks (as well as that group of racers way off to the south east).  Argentine, Kevin Benavides fell and hurt his nose. Kevin Benavides posted:“It was a really hard day for me. At the beginning I got lost like all the riders, but after that I started to push a lot. On one dune I jumped, a big jump, and I crashed because I hit another big one with the front wheel. I banged my head like this and broke the GPS and everything. I cut myself too and started to lose a lot of blood. There was also some pain around my ankle. In the end, I continued and kept pushing with a lot of pain, so, yeah, it was really hard for me today. My nose is broken and also I broke the helmet, it was really hard. I think I’ll be okay for tomorrow. I’m in pain, but it will be ok. I also tried to push on the last part to win some time, but it was hard and there was a lot of pain today. But it’s like that, this is the Dakar”. But he still managed to end up in first overall with de Soultrait in second two minutes behind.  Another South American, Jose Ignacio Cornejo Florimo from Chile was in third. It's interesting to see how you move a race to south america and then suddenly the good south american riders show up. I'm curious to see if the same happens with middle eastern riders and moving the race to saudi or if this will just make it more eurocentric again.  And Toby Price and Sam Sunderland four and six minutes further back. There's an idea that the dakar doesn't really start until after the rest day halfway through and if that's the case, KTM and Honda are both set up nicely to go for the win. Sam Sunderland hit a rock and rode without a rear brake all day. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJvunVLMgsy/ He was still pretty fast. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJucKGyKypQ/ I love shots like this of groups of riders together. Unfortunately it's not common because to bunch up like that a few people have to have lost a lot of time to make it happen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynvVc4ish-U Some footage from a refueling stop. It's really nice to see how friendly they all are with each other. Refueling stops also play an important strategic role as you can (theoretically anyway) figure out roughly how far ahead/behind someone is from where they started. Usually you have 15 minutes at a refuel so if someone started 3 spots (9 minutes) behind you, and they get to the refuel and you only have 3 minutes left before you have to leave then they've lost 3 minutes. Conversely, if they get there and you're hanging out for another 12 minutes then they've gained a full six minutes on you. https://www.facebook.com/29615abd-7b5e-4f57-b5b3-b3d035332b35 https://www.facebook.com/c401e550-9514-4b71-9c61-ad61331bdebc I forget if I've mentioned how fast they are? https://play.snapchat.com/o:W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYk1D6fD_TdxH_AXbcA2MMAXbcA2JEAO1OAA My friend, you cannot. It is not Wednesday. https://s.sc-cdn.net/gN6FItJ3iZaHaM_IZZK3yj7-oBELkWggseg-Y5TcwkM=/default/media.mp4 I honestly think that de Soultrait can't help himself. The helicopter is there and his front wheel just kind of goes in the air. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=804280926823530 The secret to Price and Sunderland's speed? It's out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R13ro8hxUno Team McDonald's Racing is still bringing us live coverage of the Bivouac. It's still in italian though. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=408782290373141 But not everyone is fast. These are two french riders who have become good friends and teammates, vowing to finish the dakar together. One of them is an attractive french man, the other a handsome french woman. I assume that this has nothing to do with their camraderie. Also worth noting these are some of the better riders you'll ever meet and then comparing their performance to the folks up front. Just incomprehensible to me. https://s.sc-cdn.net/cgZxvEOO88vabZti0wJHH5PEk9ZmJKiaTw7e1GzlO_M=/default/media.mp4 https://s.sc-cdn.net/VdxChTXhzQQsikcFhrKfexjsa3GF1bRSbWgO1rzZXbU=/default/media.mp4 In the cars, things continued apace with Nasser starting in first and Peterhansel catching him (and adding three minutes to his lead) and then following him for the rest of the stage.  Nasser is still only six minutes back which means anything can happen.  Peterhansel, day 4 posted:"We're not marking one another, it's just one relentless attack after another, and in the end we finished in the same time! Apart from a small navigation error near the finish, I don't think I can push much harder. To stay in contention, we need to go all out. So far, so good, as we aren't making too many mistakes. In the old times, 50% of all contenders would be knocked out of the race by driving mistakes or technical issues, but it's become far less common, so you just have to hold on." Carlos Sainz on the other hand is now 48 minutes back. Something tells me he's going to have a new navigator next year. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=235217874851719 He is unhappy. Carlos Sainz posted:I am a little demoralised and upset, because the rally looks more like a gymkhana than a rally-raid. I've been on 14 Dakars and I've never been lost two days and lost half an hour in each one, nor have I seen everyone lost. This isn't the Dakar. This is becoming more of a gymkhana than a rally. What we have seen so far it's not a rally. I just don't like it. It's more like a lottery, something like finding, this is not rallying. I'm really fed up. It's a gymkhana with the navigation. We've never had anything like it. Everybody gets lost, everybody tries to find the point. It's not what I like, at least. Funny how Mr. Dakar doesn't agree. Peterhansel posted:That was a proper Dakar leg: the navigation was really tough and the dunes were not easy. We also had more sections with big stones. To be honest, it was not nice to drive, but it was a challenge – like a leg of the Dakar should be. Still, there were definitely cars having the same navigation issues as well (funny how that happens when there are no clear bike tracks to follow).  And in trucks where Sotnikov and his kamaz put 24 minutes on Macik's not-a-kamaz. Overall it's a kamaz 1-2 with Sotnikov, Shibalov +34m and then Iveco and Macik 51 minutes back.  These poor trucks were just straight lost.  Yesterday I was excited about Skyler Howes racing in an old baja bug next year. Maybe I was a bit too hasty. https://www.dakar.com/en/news/2021/stage-3/classic/a-bad-day-for-the-beetle/169319 Dakar mag posted:This fifty-year old Beetle has seen a sudden increase in action over the last few months. Benoit Callewaert, a historic rally enthusiast who can usually be found competing behind the wheel of a Porsche 911, was challenged last summer to take part in the Dakar Classic by Yves Loubet. The idea immediately appealed to the Belgian businessman, but there was the stumbling block of the car to overcome: “I couldn’t take part with my car, which is prepared for rally tracks rather than rally-raids. So, with my friend Emmanuel Eggermont [participating in the VW Apal # 201], we sought out and found this VW-Baja Beetle in Los Angeles. We shipped it over, but it only arrived at the start of November, giving little more than a month to carry out all the necessary modifications”. They won the race against the clock to get the car on board the ship in Marseille and the cruise to Jeddah was comfortable for the oldest car in the field. “But our adventure took a complicated turn during the second stage,” explains Benoît: “After 5 kilometres of the special, a spark plug blew off the cylinder head and ripped off the thread, so it was impossible to repair it. We had to drive the rest of the special and the entire link route to the bivouac on only three cylinders, meaning we had a catastrophic loss of power. That’s why we had to climb that famous slope where we had to ask for a tow”. The road to reach Wadi Ad-Dawasir was therefore long, but fortunately Benoît Callewaert is farsighted: “It was out of the question that I was going to tackle the Dakar without a second engine. I wasn’t planning on using it, but in the end, we had to strip everything down to install it, bearing in mind that it’s not exactly the same type!” They thus experienced an active and rather long evening on the bivouac, but it was with genuine apprehension that the duo he forms with Ghislain Morel took starter’s orders on the day’s loop: “I’m rather worried because it will be very sandy and we’ve switched from a 1800 cc engine, which already wasn’t that powerful, to a 1600 cc engine which is very likely to struggle”. They will have to look after their venerable Beetle!     Robby Gordon has opinions. I'm sure they're all very good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNfuYgf39Gg One of the problems with speed is kinetic energy. When it goes wrong, it all goes very wrong. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347115263548940293?s=21 Some cool raw footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3_xleKDmT0 Justin Coffey is a photographer at dakar and he's getting some absolutely great footage. https://www.facebook.com/1049912568/videos/pcb.10221960023083576/10221960012043300/ https://www.facebook.com/1049912568/videos/pcb.10221960023083576/10221960013403334 https://www.facebook.com/1049912568/videos/pcb.10221960023083576/10221960022403559 https://www.facebook.com/1049912568/videos/pcb.10221960023083576/10221960022923572 Here's one of just how close he is. Stupid, maybe, but I love the footage. https://www.facebook.com/1049912568/videos/pcb.10221960023083576/10221960043404084 See you tomorrow!  
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One thing about Dakar I would love is embedded cameras in helmet/hood/roof on each team. Much like F1 and even V8 Supercars - broadcasters can vision switch. Of course this is different due to remoteness, but even if loitering helicopers in the area could be an uplink node. I've done enough remote photography and live or near to live (5 minute delay to editroom) uploading film working from some narley. I have no idea how their workflow is, and appreciate everything, some of those photographers have their glass on loving point for Pulitzer level shots. I'm just drunk and wanting more of a good thing. EDIT: Go Price!
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Humphreys posted:One thing about Dakar I would love is embedded cameras in helmet/hood/roof on each team. Much like F1 and even V8 Supercars - broadcasters can vision switch. Of course this is different due to remoteness, but even if loitering helicopers in the area could be an uplink node. I've done enough remote photography and live or near to live (5 minute delay to editroom) uploading film working from some narley. Yeah, it's super frustrating. Lyndon Poskitt, a british motorcycle racer, put out a great series two years ago now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByUwxaf0dvk the race coverage itself starts at the very end of episode 4/episode 5) and he's said that ASO charges tens of thousands of euros (although he didn't say how many, I think ballpark is 30-50k) to let him use footage that he took himself, they limited him to a strict 10 minutes of footage a day, it was a huge pain in the rear end organizing with them to use their uplink to upload the footage and they very clearly had no interest in helping him or promoting the race in any way other than what they're doing. If you watch like eurosport and redbull coverage and the dakar twitter/fb feeds you'll see they're all really just getting the same small amount of actual race footage. Why isn't it better? In the past, they've said that uplink bandwidth limitations are one of the big causes but at this point that's so much bullshit. There's a stage starting in/near riyadh and for every single DSS so far there's a snapchat heat map with a bunch of dudes posting videos from their phones so clearly bandwidth isn't the issue they've made it out to be in the past. Anyway, this is one of those things that I find very frustrating too and it seems like it's just the ASO being jerks for no reason. They literally have video in all the fast cars filming to make sure they don't cheat. Stick on a couple gopros! Give me five straight hours of KAMAZ and russian swearing. Day Six Remember attractive french teammates  Sadly though, they just didn't make it in time - they arrived when the cars were starting. This, too, is dakar. Buuuuut, as of last year there's a brand new "Dakar Experience" category for folks exactly like this. They won't get a finisher's medal but they can ride on road straight to the bivouac for stage 7 (and tomorrow is the rest day!) and then continue with the rally starting on stage seven. A lot of folks don't like this but honestly I think it's good. This race is a real bastard and it's good to let folks who have spent a hundred thousand dollars and years training continue on and get the experience rather than force them home. Riders getting ready for stage six. https://www.facebook.com/100002053738329/videos/3604974262914329/ Kevin Benavides hurt his nose yesterday and it turns out it's broken but he still managed to win. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347436809459007489  He led out today, into a stage shortened by 100km but still entirely full of dunes as far as the eye can see. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347418635711737856 Look how small the riders are.  And... locusts? https://story.snapchat.com/o/W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYYmSNzzNrBjObAXbh_7gTAXbh_7cGAO1OAA/ Today was nothing like yesterday, with no wild circles on the map. AVB said, yesterday (after I posted, how rude), that he lost ~half an hour because he was looking for a waypoint he'd already hit. I can't imagine how frustrating that is, but that's probably the end of his chance to win.  Bang Bang Barreda somehow managed to not crash again and finished first for the stage, with Ross "Kalahari Ferrari" Branch and Daniel "Toby Price, Junior" Sanders in second and third. Brabec made up time, three minutes behind in fourth but it's just not enough and I think he'll need some really bad mistakes from the top five to have a chance to win at this point. In the overall, Brabec is down 20 minutes in 13th. Leading the race? Our bivouac barber and UNESCO Global Treasure, Toby Price. (seriously, he seems like such a good dude https://www.redbull.com/us-en/shows/bivouac-barber-show and there are rumors from reliable sources that he's been on tinder at night trying to find someone closer than 100 miles away while racing in at least a few dakar rallies).   Honda's South Americans, Kevin Benavides (second and I think Honda's best hope for a win) and Jose Ignacio Cornejo Florimo (look his nickname is nacho so that's what I'm going to call him because typing that out is a pain) are in second and third with Branch and Soultrait tied at fourth and Sunderland in sixth. I think those are your real contenders for the win. All within four minutes of each other. Skyler Howes is in ninth after getting a six minute penalty for something. Or six one minute penalties (one minute is for speeding in restricted zones so is fairly common).  And... yup, it was speeding. Skyler Howes posted:Another day working it in the dunes. I actually had a pretty decent day. A lot of sand and some fun dunes. The pace is so high this rally it’s crazy, everyone is racing like it’s the last day, but everyday. So it’s hard work to keep pushing every inch. Unfortunately today I overcooked a speed zone and got slapped with a big penalty. They put a bunch of speed zones where there used to be camps in this valley, well all the camps moved so now there’s just speed zones out there with nothing around. I misread my odo and thought I was past them all and came into one way too hot and couldn’t get slowed down before getting dinged. My fault, and a dumb error to make. Was kicking myself for the rest of the day and will have to be on my A game for the week to come to stay in the top 10. Everyone is bringing the heat, excited to have made it to rest day to get organized for another week of racing 🤙🏼 Who are my picks from that group? Either Sunderland or Price. Price is probably the best in the world at going fast over any kind of terrain. Sunderland is an expert in the dunes. He moved from Britain to the UAE to spend more time riding sand and he's perfectly positioned to take his chances after the rest day. https://www.facebook.com/SamSunderland83/posts/236901791139649 "Hey, it seems like you keep forgetting Bam Bam Barreda when you talk about who might win even though he's obviously the fastest." I wouldn't call it forgetting. I've been listening to the Dakar Daily podcast with Quinn Cody (baja 1000 champ). It's really good. and one of the things they mentioned is that, unlike everyone else, JBB has been using a new tire every day. That is so dumb. His entire strategy has always been "go real fast" and he always crashes or blows up his bike or does something else that shows he's really a one trick pony where the trick is "go real fast." It's a great trick, but it's not good enough to win Dakar and my money is on Price or Brabec or AVB (or Sunderland in the dunes) as being flat out faster too. And, honestly, again, I cannot begin to tell you how dumb it is to use all your fresh tires all at once at the beginning instead of doing what literally every other pro is doing and running one tire every two days. If he had a ten or fifteen minute lead you could argue that it paid off but he doesn't and it hasn't and now he's going to be reusing tires from here on out (hopefully he at least put on a used tire for today so he has a new one for the marathon stage where you ride out to a traditional bivouac, have a few minutes to change the oil on your bike yourself and can't get any mechanical assistance from the team and then everything gets put away for the night). If it feels like I hate JBB, I don't. It's just frustrating that a super fast dude can't figure out the rally portion of the race and it makes it difficult to take him seriously as an actual podium contender. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347581328468959234 Waypoint 4 from today. You can click on the heat map and it'll pop up the videos and then you can right arrow to scroll through them. Some are not bad. But, if folks are posting these to snapchat then ASO can sure as hell upload some more video. https://map.snapchat.com/ttp/snap/W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYscuex92f3r2cAXbiPQy9AXbiPQwlAO1OAA/@28.281279,42.286456,11.57z Honda broke KTM's stranglehold at the top last year. They're positioned to contend again this year but we'll see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDHEsa9uO0 I don't know if this is supposed to be bikes and cars on the same terrain or what. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347518853023227905 In the car category, Carlos Sainz finally figured out how to navigate and won the stage with Nasser coming in six minutes and six seconds behind and Peterhansel fifteen seconds behind that. That keeps Peterhansel top and he seems to just be matching Nasser's pace. You can see this in the bikes too where the top riders will keep a little extra in the tank somehow and then break it out after the rest day. But Nasser is no slouch and six minutes is still touching distance so it will be interesting to see if Mr. Dakar can really break away in the next few stages. Bam Bam Barreda I like. Carlos Sainz, I do not. He's one of those guys where nothing is ever his fault. Toby Price, for example, does a thing where he always says we. Because he's part of a team and he views the success as a team and it's a little weird when he says things like "we rode fast today" but I'll take that kind of we're all in it together approach any day of the week over this garbage. Sainz posted:Finally a stage without problems. Happy to end the week with a victory but not pleased with the work done so far. Let's enjoy the second week and try to understand the roadbook better.  Just look at that chemistry. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347523849248768001 Peterhansel. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347473354597556225 And Nasser. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJym3ALhn4u/ You're going to need another camera. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJyelQdB0wj/ Nice footage of yesterday's stage with Nasser and Peterhansel. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxYCSGhCvk/ loving Kamaz.  Backflips, easier than Dakar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47eXbB2veI Dukes of Hazzard Fan and Manx Confederate Flag Wearer David Knight continues to put out good videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3XHIOStSc https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=800665083862736 Tiziano, the gorgonzola and polenta eating rider of the pink beta (an italian motorcycle company that made primarily trials bikes until maybe twenty years ago) continues to post good bivouac footage despite being out of the race. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1340005596377931 Xavier de Soultrait continues to live his best life. How is his gear that clean? Nobody knows. Every day he nonchalantly tosses it perfectly onto a hanger and then in the morning when he puts it on it's perfect. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347440974625206272 Obviously inspired by de Soultrait and van Beveren.   Cars from yesterday but still just great shots.    Classic cars is still a great category. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1347588880829214727 What is your bike doing in there Mr. Podmol? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGNEN6h1BQ Tomorrow is the rest day so no action while everyone recuperates and catches up on their sleep. 
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Very cool! So would it make any sense to go watch it in person, or are the logistics even worse than, say, WRC? I've only really watched some highlights before but feels like it'd be fun to go to interesting locations and see this insanity IRL.
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Letting people skip a stage and get back in is awesome. That's true enthusiast kind of thinking.
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 I'm lucky though, my missus doesn't care. If anything wants me to do similar stuff for her 4WD
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mobby_6kl posted:Very cool! If you live in Saudi Arabia, yes. Otherwise definitely not because you have to go to Saudi Arabia and figure out where the race will be somehow and then sure I bet it’s awesome for that day! Just a terrible idea. I’d love to do it. honda whisperer posted:Letting people skip a stage and get back in is awesome. That's true enthusiast kind of thinking. It’s really cool that they do that. Also helps get people extra experience so they can come back and finish next year. So much of the race is just luck too - did you zone out when there was a big rock or were you lucky? Rest day but someone on another forum brought up something I thought folks here would think was interesting. In this video: https://youtu.be/-aGNEN6h1BQ Someone asked: “@ 1:50 Brian is using two levers. One is obviously the gear, but what the other for?“ guy who knows Dakar posted:I watched the video... only a short clip... and I am not familiar with the inside of the CR6 - but I believe it is a hydraulic steering brake... On many of the 2WD buggies (first made popular in the US stadium off road and SCORE/BAJA desert racing) the rear wheels have a hydraulic hand/steering brake - with TWO braking circuits - independent to either wheel (pull for right/push for left - or vice versa = personal driver preference). The steering brake is very helpful in the long travel rear wheel drive buggies, for getting the car "turned in" as this type of vehicle has a tendency to "push"* into sandy (shovel nose) or gravel (understeer) turns, due to the rear engine/rear drive bias of the car. (*watch som footage of class 1 buggies in Baja or at Finke in the turns and you see that the front is more of a high speed "skid steer" function - than the grip of say a WRC car). Check out 2m54s here for more levers in the Toyota. https://youtu.be/cAzuot-v_W0
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DAY EIGHT This is going to be a shorter one because it’s the weekend. I’ll fix the image links tomorrow. After a rest day, it’s the first day of the marathon stages! Usually, you get to go back to the bivouac at the end of the day and have your mechanic fix your stuff. Not on a marathon stage! You ride out to a bivouac, get to work on your bike yourself and once you put it away it’s locked for the night. No spare parts. No mechanics. No fancy RV (ok, this year because of covid the fast guys can use their RVs but usually they sleep in the bunks with everyone else. The lap of luxury.  Brabec and Nacho were 1-2 on the stage with  SKYLER HOWES in third and Sam Sunderland in fourth. That puts Ricky 15 minutes back in the overall behind Nacho in first. Price is one second back in second and Sunderland and de Soultrait are a little over two minutes back. Skyler is in seventh, 12m27s back. That means Sunderland is the favorite now. Wait, what about Toby Price? Nah mate, it’s hosed.     Lyndon Poskitt, Dakar Racer and RTW Moto Vlogger posted:You can see the silver damage on the rim, something sharp has cut the tyre open. I did it in Peru on a piece of angle iron stuck out of the ground. It happens, not really the tyres fault, everything has a limit of what it can cope with or what it's designed for. Stitching it with paracord would be the best hope of getting to the finish. Not sure it will fall apart but if sand gets in it the mousse is more likely to generate heat and fail, hence why Tobe's tried to cover the gash. Best and most reliable fix would be to clean it out, pack it with grease and stitch it up. Poskitt is like real life MacGyver. Here’s how he did it when faced with a similar issue.  I cannot imagine Toby’s repair holding and it’s terrible timing as if it were any other stage he could just switch out with a new tire. Any other year, he could switch with another rider, but this year the top riders only get six tires each and can’t switch them. He’s screwed. At best, he’ll lose a ton of time. At worst, he’s out as soon as it starts tomorrow. Just tough luck. Ross Branch had a brutal crash. Almost saves it but that’s his podium hopes shot. An interesting example of how motorcycle suspension can just gently caress you. Rear compresses at the wrong time and then, helped by terrain, decompresses and pops you off. https://fb.watch/2WuyA7wdk8/ Branch talking about it afterward. https://twitter.com/i/status/1348239626079789056 Kevin Benavides posted:I got lost in the final 70 kilometres. I made a huge mistake and it cost me loads of time, 8 to 10 minutes. Now, it's time to focus on the coming stages.  de Soultrait posted:It's incredible, the second week started exactly the same as the first one. Perhaps the first gaps will start to open up, if I can seize the opportunity. I hoped to catch the lead group quickly this morning and benefit on a mass blunder, but it didn't happen. We're still having fun. Today, I rode alongside my former teammate and great friend Franco Caimi, we had a blast. As part of my agreement with Husqvarna, I have to take care of the official KTM and Husqvarna motorbikes as well as Laia's Gas-Gas, so I hope they won't crash and I won't have to do too much mechanical work Ricky Brabec posted:I'm not sure about getting back a whole lotta time. Toby's still behind me. We're gonna try and stay focused and make it through tomorrow to get back to a mechanic. I don't know if this Dakar is about strategy. I think the strategy is to not open. I think everyone that's opening is just losing a little bit of time. There's five days left and we're gonna try just to finish in the top 7 every day and see if we can make up a little bit of time. Honda FB summary. https://fb.watch/2XmJNc7S9V/ In cars, peterhansel finished second, two minutes ahead of Nasser, extending his lead to eight minutes. This has been a fantastic race between two great vehicles and great drivers but Peterhansel is just better and so is the mini. Not by a lot, Nasser and the Toyota are amazing. But by a little. https://mobile.twitter.com/XraidTeam/status/1348282471419412480 I bet this is so fun. https://mobile.twitter.com/XraidTeam/status/1348255638674141185 Trucks was a kamaz 1-2-3 with Sotnikov easily maintaining his lead.  I love the trucks.  I may have already posted this.  Just holy poo poo.  Another good video. https://youtu.be/dq9vurQLnPo builds character fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Jan 11, 2021 |
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builds character posted:Just holy poo poo. GO GO GADGET HELICOPTER
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freelop posted:GO GO GADGET HELICOPTER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Z1yLO9C-Q
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Darchangel posted:Despite being not-Dakar, I thought this was neat. It came up in my suggested videos: Shits dope, but the engineering looks super suspect to me. Seems like an excellent way to maximize weight and windage losses. I cant comprehend why they think it would be good for a hybrid application or anywhere near that 40mpg they say it could make. The new 3 and 4 cyl high pressure motors seem like way better ways to accomplish the same goals.
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A very good bumper sticker. https://twitter.com/myunclesmemes/status/1348670596629065731?s=20
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DAY NINE  Toby Price did it. https://streamable.com/fmqciq https://streamable.com/rr10r9 and a somewhat less official response. https://streamable.com/32u0r7 He managed to complete a stage on that wreck of a tire. It's incredible, and it's a testament to how easy he is on his gear and to his skill that he was able to place second, but also there was probably a bit of luck the other way as well. Still, he's in second after today, only one minute back on Nacho and with Sunderland six minutes back on them both. Price has to be the favorite to win and it's just a question of who makes a mistake. Price is probably the fastest, but Nacho's been having a great race. Sunderland is lurking as well - if Price or Nacho make any mistakes, he can pounce.   Six minutes back is a long time, but Sam Sunderland is real fast. https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348561308111790081?s=21 Daniel Sanders, aka Toby Price, JR is no slouch either. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=316819153315141 In tragic news, Xavier de Soultrait, famous for flying too close to the sun has... flown too close to the sun yet again. Sounds like he's OK, but that's a tough (albeit not surprising) finish for the frenchman. de Soultrait posted:Unfortunately I crashed around km270 of today stage, and I wasn’t able to continue, to much pain on the neck. I have to take care of my health, I’m now in Tabuk hospital, for a full check. My In motion airbag worked.  With a third place today, Ricky Brabec isn't repeating. He did so well last year to finally break the KTM streak but this year, his teammate Nacho is going to have to be the one to do it for Honda. Ricky posted:Not gonna be easy with the cards were dealt, difficult first week but now the race has started. 4 days left and the boys aren't gonna give it up  Skyler Howes keeps it up with a ninth place finish, putting him in seventh overall and well on his way to another top ten. Skyler Howes posted:We’re up in the north part of Saudi and I’m happy! Love the scenery up here. Today’s stage I started 3rd, and from the briefing it sounded like we were going to have some tricky navigation. I chose to ride a moderate pace and nail the navigation and wait for a mistake from the 2 in front of me. Well... I was wrong.. I just went too slow and they nailed it. Mad props to Nacho and Ricky for leading out today and crushing it. After Sam caught me I realized I just wasn’t going fast enough and latched on to the back of him for the rest of the stage, it was actually super fun, but by the end I had lost about 7 minutes to the lead.   I keep harping on what a big deal it is to be able to follow tracks. Here's just another example. https://s.sc-cdn.net/xB7Ioday_ojWqSze2GUUA7Tt7G-_pX8JqZNp1ggbvrk=/default/media.mp4 Laia is still very good. Maybe the best all-round rider in the world. Certainly has to be in the conversation at least. https://s.sc-cdn.net/Nu11t9Qpeti3c5JrgF2edy-kO5LWtVaZ97xDsosS7Uc=/default/media.mp4   In the cars, Nasser took the win and clawed back three minutes from Peterhansel, bringing the gap to down to 4m50s. Still comfortable, but Peterhansel will need to be perfect. Fortunately, now he can try to put some more time on Nasser as Nasser has to lead out tomorrow. Look at that rear wheel hop while braking. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ6GXUPhnY9/ And some all-wheel hop from the terrain. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ5AzVsBD7n/ The mini's doesn't have that pro... oh.  Carlos Sainz is not the best but this is the best picture.  And he is still very fast.  Just crazy how different the dakar classics are in terms of speed and suspension. Some of that is the driver, certainly, but I think much of it is the progress that has been made in the cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF2S7qdB3IY In trucks, another KAMAZ 1-2-3. They have an iron grip on the podium at this point. https://twitter.com/KAMAZmasterTEAM/status/1348576157562785797/photo/2  They're really... cleaning up. ah ha. ah ha ha.  https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348642106055782407 Ales Loprais's Praga is in fourth, 1h30m back. Third place Kamaz Mardeev is 1h13m back. https://www.facebook.com/dakar/videos/2573711262774934  Loprais posted:The right front wheel bearing was on fire. The fire also destroyed the brake and thickening. Throughout the stage we couldn't thicken and undercut the tires on the front axle.   https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348626842211799042 Justin Coffey is also on fire with his pictures. These are from a tough hill climb in yesterday's stage but they're still so good.          Petr Angelo Vlceck owns a surf and skate shop in SC and is on instagram as wolfeyracing. He's been to dakar a few times on a bike and this year he's the navigator in a skoda. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ05UsgBpbA/ slo mo https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348358955760709632 https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348658405985181697 https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348649934900359169 https://twitter.com/dakar/status/1348597245554417664
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This 'dakkar' rally, is it the same thing as the Paris to dakkar rally? I know I could look it up in like 5 seconds but in a lazy pile of poo poo.
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wesleywillis posted:This 'dakkar' rally, is it the same thing as the Paris to dakkar rally? I know I could look it up in like 5 seconds but in a lazy pile of poo poo. Correct, due to several African countries geopolitical status going to poo poo, the race have been relocated multiple times, ending with the current predicament of “everything in Saudi Arabia” while maintaining the original name.
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SlowBloke posted:Correct, due to several African countries geopolitical status going to poo poo, the race have been relocated multiple times, ending with the current predicament of “everything in Saudi Arabia” while maintaining the original name. Moved to South America and then Saudi Arabia offered a jillion dollars and in-country support and ASO took them up on it. France 4 on now. https://www.stream4free.live/france-4
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Sadi posted:Shits dope, but the engineering looks super suspect to me. Seems like an excellent way to maximize weight and windage losses. I cant comprehend why they think it would be good for a hybrid application or anywhere near that 40mpg they say it could make. The new 3 and 4 cyl high pressure motors seem like way better ways to accomplish the same goals. Smells like an ex-JLR engineer's iffy justification for wanting to retire and build engines in a shed.
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It looks like loeb is out, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a result as lovely as this from him. I do wonder if the tires restrictions were the culprit or just shoddy engineering from prodrive.
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SlowBloke posted:It looks like loeb is out, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a result as lovely as this from him. I do wonder if the tires restrictions were the culprit or just shoddy engineering from prodrive. Sorry for not being clearer, the tire restrictions are only for the bikes although he did have a tire issue. The marathon stage is meant to replicate the original Dakar where you hosed off to the middle of the desert and maybe died. You don’t get any outside assistance or supplies for the overnight (not entirely true - I believe the bikes get to change their oil and air filters, for example) so if, like Loeb, you get two flats you’re out of luck. Dakar posted:Having left Sakaka this morning after an already difficult day for the first part of the marathon stage, which he completed with only one spare wheel, Sébastien Loeb has been forced to drop out of the race. Halted once after 43 km, he ground to a halt again after 83 km following a second puncture, while his assistance truck also encountered mechanical problems. At the end of the day, the Bahrain Raid Xtreme driver was able to repair the problem, but decided to leave the special and head to the bivouac in Neom by road, putting himself at risk of disqualification for not validating the many remaining way points on the special. On arrival, he informed his team of his decision to withdraw from the rally, which passed the information on to the race officials. That said, I think his result is the fault of being in what’s essentially a prototype car and being frustrated he doesn’t have a chance at the win. He could have continued, but chose not to. This tweet is the bivouac (probably marathon stage/last night) not the middle of the stage where he made the decision. https://mobile.twitter.com/SebastienLoeb/status/1348679431590715400 Looks like this spot from yesterday. https://mobile.twitter.com/dakar/status/1348295474680369152 From here: https://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news/loeb-prodrive-bahrain-toyota-xraid/4930383/ article posted:After an initial shakedown in the UK, the BRX team completed a successful desert test in the Middle East in November Not exactly a recipe for success and I don’t know that Loeb is one to stick around for four more punishing days when he’s not going to be on the podium. He had been doing alright, albeit not on track to win, until his suspension broke a few days ago. https://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news/loeb-brx-broken-suspension-arm/4943103/ Nani Roma, his teammate who’s also an excellent driver is currently in fifth, 2h20m back.
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quote:I don’t know that Loeb is one to stick around for four more punishing days when he’s not going to be on the podium I had the torture of trying to interview him at the WRC when I was doing media in 2009. If you dont speak French he treats you like dogshit. A huge difference from the rest of the drivers who ranged from professional to an outright delight (no matter if there is a language barrier) and hilarious to talk to and honestly he obviously just this attitude about him when things went wrong of being spoilt and precious. Most other crews are "We hosed it, we'll fix it and have beer at the end" because one of the points about rallying or long distance raids is just to finish. Sure winning is cool and all but these events are tough, they are draining and good god it's awesome to finish. At least that's my view esp after finishing events where I've driven anything like 1000kms during the day, 14 special stages and the car needs a lot of work before putting in parc ferme overnight and you have to get ready to do it all over again tomorrow.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I had the torture of trying to interview him at the WRC when I was doing media in 2009. If you dont speak French he treats you like dogshit. A huge difference from the rest of the drivers who ranged from professional to an outright delight (no matter if there is a language barrier) and hilarious to talk to and honestly he obviously just this attitude about him when things went wrong of being spoilt and precious. Most other crews are "We hosed it, we'll fix it and have beer at the end" because one of the points about rallying or long distance raids is just to finish. Sure winning is cool and all but these events are tough, they are draining and good god it's awesome to finish. At least that's my view esp after finishing events where I've driven anything like 1000kms during the day, 14 special stages and the car needs a lot of work before putting in parc ferme overnight and you have to get ready to do it all over again tomorrow. That’s really interesting. I don’t have any experience like that but he certainly wasn’t my favorite when he was losing to Peterhansel in ‘17 or was kind of a sick about Elena getting injured in ‘18. Nasser, I like and has always seemed like the best of the bunch and Peterhansel is Mr Dakar but, it’s hard to tell what’s just the media face and what’s real.
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builds character posted:it’s hard to tell what’s just the media face and what’s real. Really? It has always seemed 100% obvious that Loeb is a self important prima donna both on and off camera. I've not run into him personally but I've been around plenty of other rally drivers that one would recognize. (yes, Ken Block is also an rear end in a top hat, but his wife is a total sweetheart)
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Motronic posted:Really? It has always seemed 100% obvious that Loeb is a self important prima donna both on and off camera. Hah! I meant I didn’t know if Nasser was actually that nice or Peterhansel was secretly just awful. I’m pretty sure about Loeb (and Sainz).
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builds character posted:Cool stuff The weirdest thing is that Loeb has been changing wheels or suspension arms in the desert at least once every stint while Roma didn't (or at least wasn't shown in the Dakar recaps on eurosport1). Maybe he couldn't guess the limits of the car and destroyed it in the process?
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Olympic Mathlete posted:Speaking of Porsches in an off-road flavour, Singer are back at it again and this thing owns. I don't understand how you physically get the spare wheel/tire out from behind the seats. It looks like it's trapped in there, with the cage in place. Does the rear glass swing up?
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builds character posted:That’s really interesting. I don’t have any experience like that but he certainly wasn’t my favorite when he was losing to Peterhansel in ‘17 or was kind of a sick about Elena getting injured in ‘18. Nasser, I like and has always seemed like the best of the bunch and Peterhansel is Mr Dakar but, it’s hard to tell what’s just the media face and what’s real. Sainz is very intense and passionate in person who has got a bit of a short fuse but honestly? I've heard he's not bad when he's not stressing. Just breaking off somewhat from Dakar but yes gvien I've been around WRC as part of a team and also in media I've known a few and Loeb straight out is the biggest jerk. The best? Ogier is actually amusing but Il'd say if you want someone with a teriffic outlook in life you want Henri Solberg. Also Jari Mari Latvala can drink you under the table. Also as a noob media person Latvala treated me like a 30 year professional and was unbelieveably accomodating. Sure I've been national level driver so I understand the sport and the speed et all but these guys are still on a different level but mostly they just accept you because you are part of the sport. My brother has met Michele Mouton while he was driving at a WRC or two. And she absolutly takes no poo poo from anyone esp modern drivers who dont like driving in dust. She embarrassed the poo poo out of some of them when they were whining about one stage by saying "Well STFU and give me your car, I'll show you how it done" You dont tell a Group B legend a stage is too tough, she'll shut you down with a glare. We love her so much  Also one of the best experiences is when we were rebuilding the absolutly mangled front end of my brothers car and pulled off a miricle 40 minute rebuild crawling out from under the car exhusted, filthy, stressed beyond belief and realise you were being handed spanners by a Hyundai team member and other WRC service mechanics were watching and cheering. SlowBloke posted:The weirdest thing is that Loeb has been changing wheels or suspension arms in the desert at least once every stint while Roma didn't (or at least wasn't shown in the Dakar recaps on eurosport1). Maybe he couldn't guess the limits of the car and destroyed it in the process? Payback for some of that inhuman luck he had in the WRC? I have no idea how he could hit a rock and get away clean all for someone behind to hit the same rock and rip their suspension off.
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Someone just sent this to me. Apparently Duncan Jones wrote a Full Throttle script: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ojb9zaplszjcp63/FULL%20THROTTLE%20-for%20all.pdf?dl=0 I want this movie. Like want want.
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Loprais posted:The right front wheel bearing was on fire. The fire also destroyed the brake and thickening. Throughout the stage we couldn't thicken and undercut the tires on the front axle. Can someone explain thickening and undercut?
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cakesmith handyman posted:Can someone explain thickening and undercut? Based on context and language, I suspect "thickening" is some kind of dynamic suspension travel adjustment, and "undercut" just means the suspension bottomed out and they cut the tire on the bodywork. I am interested to see if my interpretation is correct.
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KozmoNaut posted:Someone just sent this to me. Apparently Duncan Jones wrote a Full Throttle script: Do want.
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DAY TEN As they say, the Dakar begins after the rest day. This year is no exception. Just kidding, it starts way before that (ask Matthias Walkner if you have any doubts), this is just when the top step of the podium really starts to shake out.  Today was a tough day for a few competitors. It started by the sea which allows for some absolutely gorgeous shots as you'll... see.   But it wasn't all an easy ride through beautiful scenery. Toby Price crashed and was airlifted out with a broken collarbone (and maybe concussion). I wonder how much of this was just fatigue - he looked absolutely exhausted yesterday and being tired makes it easier to make mistakes, even for someone as good as he is. Just a reminder that redbull has some good coverage and they should hopefully have more information on Price's condition when their next video comes out in a half hour. https://www.redbull.com/us-en/events/dakar-rally One of the most important things in rally is that you stop for people who are injured. Brabec and Sunderland both stopped for Price until the helicopter came and it's great to see that kind of camaraderie as they both clearly care about him. The rules provide that if you stop for someone who's injured you get that time back so there's no penalty for stopping. Of course, not everyone has to stop but I personally think this rule is one of the most fundamental building blocks of the sport. When I woke up this morning, Brabec showed as finishing 20 minutes down on the stage with Sunderland maybe 25 minutes back but it's since been adjusted to take out the time they spent waiting for the chopper. One man's poison is another man's cure. Nacho finished the stage in third, 1m34s behind Kevin Benavides in first who was 1m18s ahead of Brabec and 10m ahead of Sunderland. Nacho leads the overall now by 11m24s over Kevin Benavides and 14m34s over Sunderland.  Brabec is in fourth at 17m26s. Bam Bam Barreda has miraculously managed not to crash but is still 29m back in fifth. With only three stages to go that means it's Nacho's to lose, but he has to start out tomorrow and Sunderland in fourth could take a few minutes out if he really pushes (or even take the lead if he manages to catch Nacho). It will be interesting to see what Honda's strategy is. They must desperately want a second win in a row and they have Benavides, Brabec and JBB all in the top five to protect Nacho. Because Nacho finished third, it will be very interesting to see if Benavides and Brabec just wait for him and then all go together or if they still think there's enough time that they have to really push. On the last stage of Dakar, instead of starting in finishing order from the prior day they reverse it. However, one wrinkle this year - usually the last stage of the dakar is only a 100km parade lap special. This year the special is 450km with dunes so there will be real incentive to finish first the day after tomorrow so that you can absolutely blaze through the field on the last day. It's enough distance that there's a real chance it will change the podium.  Particularly if someone gets lost...  Sunderland is now KTMs last hope at reasserting their Dakar dominance and frankly it's odd to see just one orange bike up front in a sea of red. Sam Sunderland posted:Rough day, started off so nice along the sea but at km 155 or so I found my mate @tobyprice87 Crashed and in some pain, I tried to help until the helicopter arrived and then got going again, managed to get into a good rythem and then at km 260 hit a rock and crashed pretty heavy and damaged my Roadbook and gps so had to wait for some other guys to follow with no Roadbook info it made for a scary day. Glad it is behind me and ready to fight until the end of this one!!   Ricky Brabec posted:SS 9 : P? / Rough day out in the books today. Came up on the legend @tobyprice87 down and out of it so that out a gut wrenching feeling in the program. We're not giving up and we're riding our rear end off doing everything we can to get a podium spot. Tough rally and with 3 days left...... everything is possible.   Skyler Howes posted:Trying not to be hard on myself, but I really messed up the navigation today. I reckon I spent 20 minutes going in wrong directions 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ BUT I am really happy with the riding today, I enjoyed the stage, it was high speed, lots of washes, tons of rocks, some sand, and the bike felt great. Just need to learn my lesson and follow the dang roadbook. 👊🏼   Walkner has had a tough Dakar this year. Here's his tire after today's stage.  After surviving a tough crash, Ross Branch is now out with a mechanical. Something wrong with his engine.  Jugla and Bispo continue their journey together. It's both heartwarming and badass. Here's the link for the quote.  Sara Jugla posted:The stage begins and very quickly we get lost, we turn in circles on a large plateau. I decide to stop to take stock. I am not the only one to be lost elsewhere. At one point a red car comes up to me, the door opens and there I see Sebastien Loeb asking me which way to go! I couldn’t believe my eyes! Then he goes in one direction, turns around and comes back next to me to tell me that it was not the right direction! Great moment in my Dakar! Much later when arriving at the last CP it was dark. The race director told us that we had the choice: either we sleep in the dunes and we try to reach the start of stage 6, or we stop the Dakar and we switch to + Dakar experience +, that of those who have abandoned the idea of appearing in the general classification, by returning by For me, going to + Dakar experience + was not a problem, after all the main thing is to reach the end, that’s my goal. But Alex Bispo, with whom I have been riding for several stages and who has helped me on several occasions, wanted to stay on the normal Dakar at all costs. So I decided to show solidarity and stay with him. So we leave CP 5 at night and 10 km further we arrive in the dunes. And then it gets really complicated, my lighting is broken, and quickly we realize that driving like that is impossible. Besides, we were exhausted. So we stop and we decide to bivouac in the Saudi desert. With a few rations and a survival blanket before a medical 4×4 from the organization brought us a tent that protected us from the wind. But we slept on the ground, in the sand, it was super cold, we were shaking. Very short night, not restful. And at six o’clock when the sun rose behind the dunes, we got back on the motorcycles to try to finish, there were about a hundred kilometers left to reach the finish of stage 5 which was luckily next to the start. of the 6. Our hope was to combine the two, especially as the race management had postponed the start time. But despite everything, we arrived too late. I have no regrets, no disappointments, because I really gave everything. I gave everything I had and this step will remain etched in my memory. The night in the dunes, the sunrise, the return to the bivouac with the morning light, it was all really beautiful. Interesting to see just how much the scenery can change from the sea to this. https://story.snapchat.com/o/W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYNIICoqPM56uQAXb14ztuAXb14zrPAO1OAA/ https://story.snapchat.com/s/o:W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYhLP8YY8fHQCIAXb2HZTWAXb2HZPOAO1OAA/ In the cars, today was the day that Peterhansel showed just how skilled he is, finishing 12 minutes ahead of Nasser and cementing his position as favorite going into the home stretch. Mostly. What actually happened, I think, is that the toyota is 4wd and as a result is heavier. As a result, Nasser had to deal with some punctures on today's rocky terrain that Peterhansel managed to avoid. It's the same story - they're so incredibly close but Peterhansel is just a little bit better and the mini is just a little better than the toyota.    Nasser running by the sea. https://fb.watch/2ZvEe2LUi4/ https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ7rjOAB63r/ Imagine running over a dune exactly like this on purpose. Nasser is incredibly talented.  Just leave your camera and hope the memory card survives. At least one of you is going the wrong way. Given that neither is a kamaz, it might be both.  "loving Kamaz." -God, probably   Ales Loprais's Praga is still in fourth place, 17 minutes behind the nearest Kamaz and 1h30m behind Sotnikov.  You're so beautiful, why is your race so poo poo?  The bivouac where all the magic happens. A surprisingly small space.  And the ride back. Plenty of time to yourself to think.  Camels  Just a ton of great pictures of yesterday's stage from Justin Coffey.        Artistic shot. You can tell because of the black and white.          What happens in the desert... stays in the desert? https://story.snapchat.com/o/W7_EDlXWTBiXAEEniNoMPwAAYNomWO6NCwzYSAXb2eIJYAXb2eIFaAO1OAA/
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