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Communist Thoughts posted:they're far too stupid to understand this I have been going back and forth this whole pandemic between they actually are that stupid and they are actively genocidal, i still cant tell for certain
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They're really stupid Even from a rational capitalist perspective it would make sense to pursue an elimination strategy, even now, because after it is achieved economic activity could resume without future waves requiring complete economic shutdowns again. But the right cannot process a problem they cannot just be strong and belligerently indifferent at, that's why even Trump and Johnson both ended up catching Covid themselves, their underlying ideologies tell them they should do as little as possible because being scared and reacting to events is for pussies
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Jan 15, 2021 16:31
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everything must be done in service to number what do you mean it's making number go down well let's do it some more and at least we're doing it cruelly
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spankmeister posted:I've never know the Finns to be good at making cheese. Or any kind of food really. Except the kind that gives you chemical burns. salted milk stored in a cave until it rots in a special way, you say?
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Communist Thoughts posted:most shameful nation ever, their whole national narrative is around rebellion against the english and one day we'll be free we've been fighting for it for 400 years well not actually fighting like ireland yknow like singing songs about it didn't scotland basically get sold to the english because most of the rich scots decided to invest in a loving stupid colony scheme near panama, the whole thing failed horribly and they needed english money to bail them out? mortons stork posted:I have been going back and forth this whole pandemic between they actually are that stupid and they are actively genocidal, i still cant tell for certain I think the theory that we are currently being ruled by the failsons and faildaughters (or grandsons, granddaughters) of the technocratic elite that set up the social democratic policies that allowed most western countries to coast for 60 years, and it's given way too many wealthy people the sense of noblesse oblige. although the UK's insane class consciousness has warped this even further, since being salt-of-the-earth is now more cool than being aristocracy, you get all the british tabloid articles decrying how oppressed small business owners like the thousand arses guy is. Dreylad has issued a correction as of 16:46 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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Jan 15, 2021 16:41
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I thought American cheese was called cheese product.
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doing the sort of mobilisation that are necessary for a serious strategy of elimination is extremely taboo in the present ideological climate in the west, *and* it would trigger a massive stock market crash one might hope that we'd do it anyway, but it turns out that literally hundreds of thousands of deaths are preferable to prodding at our stupid overfinancialised economies
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Jan 15, 2021 16:53
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Jarf posted:idiot conspiracy colleague of mine got refused access to Morrisons for not wearing a mask, his "medically exempt" excuse didn't work and they told him to come back with a lanyard stating such There's guys round here making reasonably professional looking lanyards and selling them for a tenner to people like your colleague.
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Jan 15, 2021 17:05
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10000 Sex Arses posted:There's guys round here making reasonably professional looking lanyards and selling them for a tenner to people like your colleague. Home Bargains are selling "Mask exempt" badges. Not sure if they're also doing lanyards. Round here, compliance inside shops and on buses from what I can see is very high. One of the buses also says it must be 3-ply mask.
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V. Illych L. posted:doing the sort of mobilisation that are necessary for a serious strategy of elimination is extremely taboo in the present ideological climate in the west, *and* it would trigger a massive stock market crash We have a zero covid campaign in the UK which I hope is starting to get traction. Assuming a horrible peak of deaths over the next two weeks and a slow grind downwards unless we do more it might force a change. Or we'll resort to calling in bomb threats against non-essential places which remain open idk
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I don't really see why someone claiming to be medically exempt shouldn't just be taken at their word given that anyone can literally just print off a medical exemption badge from a .gov site
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Jan 15, 2021 17:26
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V. Illych L. posted:allowing covid to become endemic is probably the single most obvious failure of global coordination i've seen in my lifetime and bodes ill for our prospects of ever taking our ongoing ecocide seriously The pandemic and our response to it has basically been the climate crisis in fast forward, we are absolutely not going to do a loving thing about the end of the world until it's already over
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Jan 15, 2021 17:33
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places where the capacity for effective governance and public institutions have not been hollowed out entirely by capital will do poo poo and protect themselves, while our elites will flail briefly and pay some guy to yell on television how actually the crisis has been going well and the mountains of corpses do not exist
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Jan 15, 2021 17:44
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multijoe posted:They're really stupid today's capitalists don't care about continued economic activity, they care about rent extraction. they're more absentee landlords than factory owners. say your car breaks down and you need to spend one months rent to fix it otherwise you won't be able to get to work and get money to pay rent in the future. do you know any landlord who would agree to waiving a month of rent so that you can fix your car? of course not, they all insist you continue to pay them no matter what the circumstances are
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Dreylad posted:didn't scotland basically get sold to the english because most of the rich scots decided to invest in a loving stupid colony scheme near panama, the whole thing failed horribly and they needed english money to bail them out? Yeah the Scottish parliament voted for union with England largely because rich Scots were all broke now from the failure of the Darien scheme and needed a bailout. Also there were direct bribes of piles of money for the MPs and their rich friends, and the promise of getting in on England's imperialism action. Only wealthy landowning men had the vote then, so union with England was not a popular democratic decision (there were riots).
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multijoe posted:I'm guessing once the high risk groups have been vaccinated they're going to charge full steam ahead into reopening the economy. A trickle of deaths (mostly from people who brought it on themselves with poor lifestyle choices, etc) and a few million more cases of long covid will be a small price to pay to make the line be good again Me, king of the Britons with the only box of vaccine in the whole country: Now listen if the plebs see me and all my friends, mistresses, and page boys take the vaccine they will be eager to take it themselves once the fallout clears and we get shipments again. It's for their own good.
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namesake posted:We have a zero covid campaign in the UK which I hope is starting to get traction. Assuming a horrible peak of deaths over the next two weeks and a slow grind downwards unless we do more it might force a change. in norway we almost got rid of it, and then it got reintroduced in a big way through tourism and foreign workers you absolutely need to coordinate this stuff internationally as well as within countries, and there we once again see the massive flaws in institutions like the EU
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marktheando posted:Yeah the Scottish parliament voted for union with England largely because rich Scots were all broke now from the failure of the Darien scheme and needed a bailout. Also there were direct bribes of piles of money for the MPs and their rich friends, and the promise of getting in on England's imperialism action. Wasn't there nearly lynch mobs in the streets of Edinburgh? We really shat a chance for a proper revolution a century before the French.
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just spent an hour reading about the Darien scheme and lol
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forkboy84 posted:Wasn't there nearly lynch mobs in the streets of Edinburgh? We really shat a chance for a proper revolution a century before the French. Fun article here- https://www.scotsman.com/heritage-and-retro/heritage/remembering-day-treaty-union-was-signed-following-months-rioting-streets-1397105 People who were not wealthy aristocrats were very unhappy. quote:Remembering the day the Treaty of Union was signed - following months of rioting in the streets
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10000 Sex Arses posted:There's guys round here making reasonably professional looking lanyards and selling them for a tenner to people like your colleague. Seriously. Counterfeit medical exemption lanyards? Just wear a loving mask. Why is everything so stupid?
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Jan 15, 2021 21:46
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Jarf posted:Seriously. Counterfeit medical exemption lanyards? I had an email from a friend in Egypt yesterday where covid running rife who doesn't believe that its real. :smdh: She's an avid consumer of all works Icke, 'zeitgeist' and all that stuff. When I get round to answering her email, I'm going to ask her what is it she doesn't believe, what does she think people are dying of or doesn't she believe they are? She does have some conspiracy theory that a shadowy elite have a plan to bump off all the poors. So this probably fits in with that. (I don't think the tories are THAT shadowy though - pretty blatant, but I digress.)
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Jarf posted:Seriously. Counterfeit medical exemption lanyards? I've got a guy on facebook banging the drum for colloidal silver as a covid cure
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:When I get round to answering her email, I'm going to ask her what is it she doesn't believe, what does she think people are dying of or doesn't she believe they are? My colleague claims that hospitals are actually empty but when they dropped that bombshell I had literally walked passed the Covid area at the local infirmary on my way to a blood test and it was not loving empty. Also does the whole "hours of research" schtick by which they mean creating a YouTube echo chamber of their conspiracies. Listening to hours of incorrect information doesn't make it any less incorrect! gently caress me, these people are ridiculous. E: also claims that nobody they know has had rona whilst people they work with have literally had loving rona AAAAAAAAAGH!
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Cheddar was never protected, and is already being produced by Finland. english people brought cheddar to America and America has made it a staple cheese for centuries. We make 4 billion pounds a year, that's 3 pounds per American while England makes 10 pounds per UK person.
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Avirosb posted:I thought American cheese was called cheese product. it's just cheese with some sodium citrate, a salt that keeps oils and water sticking together so the cheese melts instead of leaking oil as you cook it. It's cheese ascended
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Jarf posted:My colleague claims that hospitals are actually empty but when they dropped that bombshell I had literally walked passed the Covid area at the local infirmary on my way to a blood test and it was not loving empty. My cousin temps at a regional hospital in Northern Ireland. She's been drafted into working ridiculous hours as the health trust has been desperately trying to get more staff to handle the crisis. A few weeks back a group of anti-masker conspiracy nuts drove 100 miles from Dublin to her hospital in Antrim and got inside through an unsecured rear entrance. They then walked around the outpatients ward late in the evening, after all outpatients for the day had been discharged, filming all the empty beds and claiming it was proof CoVID was a hoax. Needless to say their video proof of CoVID being a hoax went viral.
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Antonymous posted:it's just cheese with some sodium citrate, a salt that keeps oils and water sticking together so the cheese melts instead of leaking oil as you cook it. It's cheese ascended I liked James Mays' observation. He was is a resteraunt in america and ordered a dish, the waitress said 'd'you want cheese with with that'? He said yes ok what kind of cheese? 'cheese'? There are no different kind of cheeses in 'merica, it is all just kraft slices.
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Cyril Sneeer posted:I liked James Mays' observation. was this at like mcdonalds or something
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Cyril Sneeer posted:I liked James Mays' observation. You know that supermarkets with different kinds of cheese exist in the US right?
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Cyril Sneeer posted:I liked James Mays' observation. the dish was probably a burger and most diners just put the kraft slices on because they melt into a very creamy layer that goes really well with the savory burger, so it is sort of a standard for that dish. It would be weird to meet an American who didn't know about mozzarella, cheddar, swiss and probably provolone. A good translation, I'm guessing as an American, is like if a waiter took an order for 'fish and chips' and someone asked 'wait you're not going to ask me what kind of fish I want? do you have tuna?' also that's actually literally true in Taiwan, they have a word 起司 pronounced basically identical to Cheese that means kraft singles. Through a lot of asia that is what cheese means by default
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Antonymous posted:the dish was probably a burger and most diners just put the kraft slices on because they melt into a very creamy layer that goes really well with the savory burger, so it is sort of a standard for that dish. It would be weird to meet an American who didn't know about mozzarella, cheddar, swiss and probably provolone. Kraft singles are not cheese op, and also you really have to be american to think they go good with anything also wtf is "swiss"
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Ironically, the only British cheese I ever saw sold in an EU supermarket is from Ireland. The country one. The one that ain't British. Most people I know think Cheddar is Irish. edit: oh it's a coop too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornua Haramstufe Rot has issued a correction as of 01:20 on Jan 16, 2021 |
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oliwan posted:Kraft singles are not cheese op, and also you really have to be american to think they go good with anything copy of Gruyere I think Oliwan I'll have you know that old Gouda is the best cheese on the planet
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Antonymous posted:A good translation, I'm guessing as an American, is like if a waiter took an order for 'fish and chips' and someone asked 'wait you're not going to ask me what kind of fish I want? do you have tuna?' If you go to a place with a waiter and order fish and chips they'll likely only have one type of fish because it'll likely be a chain restaurant (and obviously posh seafood places will let you choose the fish) In a normal chippy you'll ask for cod/haddock/plaice
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Lobster God posted:If you go to a place with a waiter and order fish and chips they'll likely only have one type of fish because it'll likely be a chain restaurant (and obviously posh seafood places will let you choose the fish) sure and ordering a burger at an american restaurant and not being able to change the cheese from kraft plastic cheese-type product is going to only happen at like mcdonalds or something loving subway has like four or five varieties of cheese
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Lobster God posted:If you go to a place with a waiter and order fish and chips they'll likely only have one type of fish because it'll likely be a chain restaurant (and obviously posh seafood places will let you choose the fish) so it's a roadside pub and they asked 'what kind of fish does the fish and chips come with' and the waiter said 'fish...' to the foreigner and it sounds barely a story worth repeating
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