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endlessmonotony posted:Starmer didn't actually get in to anywhere, he's being the very ineffective leader of the Opposition That Doesn't Oppose Anything and probably is flying out as soon as the Brexit mess is over with. a leader of the opposition that doesn't oppose anything is the end state of the left party in the two-party duopoly system. over here nancy pelosi has been in charge of the democrats for a billion years through multiple humiliating defeats and barely token opposition of bush and trump.
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Nonsense posted:lol i really wonder how many comments were mocking him that he should have died if every single comment is moderated down to "YOU ARE THE BEST JOURNALIST THE GUARDIAN EVER" They’ve had to work hard to get that warm bath of bland positivity I think. Before I inflicted that link on you I made a rather polite and restrained comment that even praised his description of angor animi. Got premoderated cos I also suggested that letting go of the Corbyn ogre in his head might be good for his health now that Starmer is in and he can again pretend to be a leftist with no risk of anything changing. I spose if Behr reads a critical word he might just keel over like Terry Gilliam in the holy grail so a national newspaper’s comment section has to be his snowflake safe space
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a book of arse prints would be more enlightening than guardian opinion pieces imo 
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crispix posted:a book of arse prints would be more enlightening than guardian opinion pieces imo the new post-brexit paper, the sex arse times
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Jazerus posted:the new post-brexit paper, the sex arse times Ah, a well respected scientific publication.
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behr also blamed his heart attack on brexit in january 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/29/heart-attack-brexit-politics presumably this is an evergreen mine of content, and he will come back every year to reattribute it to whatever he wants to complain about at that particular moment
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Communist Thoughts posted:its coz after making the story up they simultaneously forget making it up and start believing it in literally hours, especially once their story starts getting coverage This happens over and over, liberals are so good at lying to themselves. They made up gang weed memes to make fun of the alt right then started believing they were genuine and the Joker movie would be a rallying cry for the alt right and cause mass shootings.
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Here's a thread https://www.twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1350367078662987777 tl;dr: https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1350370442587074561 lol
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barbecue at the folks posted:Here's a thread I assume this guy is a famous brexiteer or something
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Syncopated posted:I assume this guy is a famous brexiteer or something He used ‘there’ when it should have been ‘their’ which makes me lean towards him being a brexiteer for sure.
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https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1350370788076118016?s=19 he's a tory for sure lol
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I can't find much political before this https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/824090386616487938?s=20 But he seems okay to me. Both pro-remain (a year after the vote anyway) and saying that the Tories are a bunch of con-artists
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Jan 18, 2021 11:42
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He's an EU flag guy mad the Tories were hijacked by Brexiteers i.e. a Soubry style liberal Tory
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Jan 18, 2021 11:54
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^^^Almost the same thing lol He's a New Labour Remainer I'll say confidently. Also the sort of genius who held a wine tasting session in London on March 20th 2020 despite everything going on at the time and lockdown happening the next week.
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How quickly we forget what a shower of cunts FBPE hard remainers were and how their obsession with full EU membership destroyed any actual solution to keeping a functional trade relationship with it. All of these people making smug 'I told you so' threads after posting three years of BUT WHAT ABOUT BREXIT JEREMY should be launched into space
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Yes, if you're tired of the sitting on the fence party just vote Lib Dem 
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I mean, the Lib Dems have a clearly established position of fully supporting the Tories while allowing you to tell yourself you didn't vote for the Tories. ...Is there now a meaningful difference between the Lib Dems and Deir Starmer's Labour?
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multijoe posted:How quickly we forget what a shower of cunts FBPE hard remainers were and how their obsession with full EU membership destroyed any actual solution to keeping a functional trade relationship with it. All of these people making smug 'I told you so' threads after posting three years of BUT WHAT ABOUT BREXIT JEREMY should be launched into space That poo poo was like a fever dream. Did the People's Vote campaign argue to vote against Labour in 2019, where their official policy was a "People's Vote", and for a LibDem Green Alliance? Did the LibDems not actually promise to cancel Brexit? Can it really have been that dumb?
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Pipski posted:Yes, if you're tired of the sitting on the fence party just vote Lib Dem why sit on the fence when you could shove it all the way up your rear end
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I mean, the Lib Dems have a clearly established position of fully supporting the Tories while allowing you to tell yourself you didn't vote for the Tories. Lib dems are ride and die rejoiners now while Starmers Labour voted for hard Brexit. The Lib Dems probably have other policies but no one will ever hear or care about them.
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BalloonFish posted:It gives them the excuse they need to turn against an actual left-wing party when it had a real chance at power. The Guardian-reading demographic is - whether they actually recognise it themselves or not - deeply scared of actual socialism that would change the status quo, raise their taxes, make owning a holiday home in Cornwall socially unacceptable, smash the independent education sector and generally burst their cosy affluent Home Counties upper-middle-class white-collar professional bubble. This is pretty much it. Sensible Liberals and the oh so moderate Center Left needed a reason to explain why they opposed Corbyn, without admitting that they truly don't want to do anything to solve the problems in this country, since they actually benefit from those very problems, but maintain their self-image. Thus after a period of searching (Corbyn loves Putin, hates women etc) they seized onto the anti-Semitism accusations as a way to square that circle and prevent society getting more equitable, while still seeing themselves as heroic and principled. This is why they not just subscribed to the idea but were, and still are, ardent promoters of it. They must continue to be, else their actions resulted in a Tory government during a pandemic and a hard Brexit for nothing. Any facts around who really governed the actions of the the complaints unit, or who liked what Facebook post, or say stats on the levels of anti-Semitism in the party are immaterial to that far more important goal - Righteous justification of my personal privilege in an unjust society but without me being the bad-guy.
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enough. Sound familiar?
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gonadic io posted:Well I mean they're not doing it by helicopter but yeah UNICEF are providing aid for families in food poverty in London and the Jacob Fess-Mogg said they should be, quote, ashamed for doing so Rees-Mogg seems like the most hosed up person in your political system right now. If it turned out he was an actual vampire no one would be surprised. Naming his kid Sixtus is some insane poo poo.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Rees-Mogg seems like the most hosed up person in your political system right now. If it turned out he was an actual vampire no one would be surprised. Naming his kid Sixtus is some insane poo poo. Bojo: "This is my son, Four-or-five"
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Why do you think he carefully keeps the back of his head covered at all times.
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genericnick posted:That poo poo was like a fever dream. Did the People's Vote campaign argue to vote against Labour in 2019, where their official policy was a "People's Vote", and for a LibDem Green Alliance? Did the LibDems not actually promise to cancel Brexit? Can it really have been that dumb? And when Labour stitched together a proposal for a cross-party parliamentary majority to form a temporary government and stop a no-deal Brexit, the Lib Dems backed out because Corbyn (leader of the official opposition...) would have been in charge. So the LDs had the choice between stopping a no-deal Brexit - which they were adamant was the most important issue of our time and crucial to prevent national catastrophe - or thwarting a Corbyn-led Labour...and they chose the latter. And then campaigned as the only true anti-Brexit party and on how Corbyn was actually a die-hard Brexiter who didn't want to stop it. And when the LDs threw out the deal Centrist FBPE twitter went crazy as they heard the West Wing theme in their heads and began breathlessly putting together their fantasy crossbench cabinet - Ken Clarke! Harriet Harman! Hillary Benn! Rory Stewart! David Milliband! Vince Cable! No Corbyns Allowed! Relevant Tangent posted:Rees-Mogg seems like the most hosed up person in your political system right now. If it turned out he was an actual vampire no one would be surprised. Naming his kid Sixtus is some insane poo poo. There's plenty of competition but I think you're right. Priti Patel just exists on fear, hate and a love of suffering but doesn't even try to hide it - she outright says that she wants to hang prisoners, sink refugee boats in the Channel with gunfire, cut human rights legislation and stop pesky lawyers holding her to account as she does so. She's an avatar of the base bile and spite that drives much of the Tory voter base and proud of being so. JRM has equally abhorrent opinions but couches them in this oily, monotone, vampiric calm as he oozes moral platitudes about how it's obviously right that the unemployed have to crush rocks on a treadmill before they receive their free gruel and stale bread - in fact it's for their own good. That he's a living caricature of a Victorian aristocratic villain from a melodramatic light opera just adds to it.
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Talking of racism the bbc article on the US coup groups is seriously unintentionally hilarious. Just describes them as 'concerned about liberty' and then the only mention of racism is near the end in a verbatim quote from the FBI.
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the synonyms for racist are getting more and more abstract. last year it was "pro-statue" this year i think its "often complex"
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spankmeister posted:Welcome to the Brexit, it gets worse here every day 
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BalloonFish posted:JRM has equally abhorrent opinions but couches them in this oily, monotone, vampiric calm as he oozes moral platitudes about how it's obviously right that the unemployed have to crush rocks on a treadmill before they receive their free gruel and stale bread - in fact it's for their own good. That he's a living caricature of a Victorian aristocratic villain from a melodramatic light opera just adds to it. Don't forget his grotesque 'he is risen' tradcath pretensions as well. He's like some awful cross between Uriah Heep and Obadiah Slope.
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lol that that twitter guy is either a red tory, new labour or libdem
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BalloonFish posted:Lib dems Their campaigning leaflets with "labour can't win here! it's between us and the tories" were also amazing and I wouldn't be surprised if at some point it turned out to be a false-flag thing.
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Falcorum posted:Their campaigning leaflets with "labour can't win here! it's between us and the tories" were also amazing and I wouldn't be surprised if at some point it turned out to be a false-flag thing. ah the magic of "lesser of two evils" voting. your vote, if it has any use at all, isn't about making someone win but making someone lose
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bedpan posted:ah the magic of "lesser of two evils" voting. your vote, if it has any use at all, isn't about making someone win but making someone lose Tbf that happens all over the place here, it's just that the Lib Dems basically lie on their leaflets in hilarious ways to give that impression that they should get your vote.
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gonadic io posted:https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1183269843153371138?s=20 he just seems like a small business tyrant who now realizes poo poo is a lot harder for him
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Judakel posted:he just seems like a small business tyrant who now realizes poo poo is a lot harder for him Close, he's a small business tyrant who realised back then it would make business harder for him but was part of a moronic political movement that achieved the one they didn't want to happen
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multijoe posted:Close, he's a small business tyrant who realised back then it would make business harder for him but was part of a moronic political movement that achieved the one they didn't want to happen sad
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