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XMNN posted:It is actually the first positive test Holy poo poo, that's just... mind boggling. Surely there's a significant amount of the 'days since contracting virus to death' bell curve being cut off then, not even counting the readmissions.
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Jakabite posted:Holy poo poo, that's just... mind boggling. Yeah, and that was a relatively early fiddle of the numbers, although an understandable one. Death certificates can take a week or more to process and even longer to percolate through to the ONS (deaths with covid on the certificate *is* a stat they track separately, FWIW) and 28 days after first test is as good a measure as any for a daily headline figure. While it does capture the Tom and Jerry deaths someone mentioned earlier, as long as people are continuing to lift pianos with damp twine at roughly the same rate, it's a defensible stat to use to track what way things are going (i.e. it doesn't actually matter if yesterday there were 1,600 or 1,700 deaths, it matters that that number is higher or lower than the number the day before). Of course the real number is definitely higher even than the excess deaths over previous years one that most people take as the highest (scientifically justifiable) indicator, because there's basically no flu this winter (10k deaths in an average year) and colds and other respiratory infections are also way down. It could be that there's as many as 20k unreported covid deaths lurking in the stats - it's going to be impossible to tell until considerably after the fact when we can look and say "Well the population should be here, it's actually here" which is also imprecise.
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ThomasPaine posted:Granted, it doesn't help that it's cold and dark all the time, I'm unemployed, I can't go hang out and decompress with friends, and I'm drinking way too much to compensate, but this year has probably been the most difficult for me in a long time, and certainly the first where I've genuinely worried my mental health resilience might be reaching its limit. I'm holding it together, but it is hard sometimes. Heya Bud. If you want to talk or just vent about it I am sure we are all here for that. Keep safe!
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I have long been such a broken and anti-social bastard that covid has hardly changed my life at all tbh 
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ThomasPaine posted:I don't think I'm at all alone in saying this, but really fear of the virus itself is only a very small part of the trauma of this pandemic. Every death is a tragedy for those impacted and all that, but I know I'm not really very likely to be one of those as a 31 year old (though it is possible). What is really getting to me is the way it has exposed our whole country for the selfish, stupid, lazily arrogant and entitled place we've always known it to be, deep down. Not just the usual suspects either. It's the government mismanagement (who could have guessed putting a load of Eton chancers in charge of a country might lead to you being led by a bunch of lazy grifters?), it's the media silence/spin, it's the well to do blue tick liberals doing their performative outrage despite their direct complicity, yes it's dumbasses refusing to wear masks. I've never liked Britain, and there's always been that current of bile under the surface that I've been aware of, but I always kind of believed in this alienated but generally well-meaning majority. I'm not sure I do now. The mask has been ripped off and I've seen how the sausages are made and it's worse than I ever thought. I've lost more respect for this country in the last year than I thought possible, and that really is a hell of a bar. That's going to be the big thing. When all is said and done I will not be able to see people in the same way again. I hope that I'm not the only one, and this might radicalise people somewhat, but lol Anecdotal for sure, but this is a huge thing for me. Between Britain loving everything up as much as possible due to not ever wanting to actually show any leadership whilst still and at the same time funneling tremendous wodges of money to their mates, and the only slight chance we had to stop it being burned by the world's most feckless client media, and the US undergoing the world's stupidest fascist coup (currently paused, sure, but I'm very dubious the Dems have the will, let alone the means, to make enough change to stop it restarting in 4 years), I'm really really struggling for motivation to do like... data entry. Or really anything except instant gratification escapism like vidja and D&D.
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Private Speech posted:Yeah it's still basically in the single market. Good question: Not sure actually. Someone else pointed that out, too https://twitter.com/sgautam206/status/1351570453261910016?s=20
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Guavanaut posted:I want someone from the adult entertainment industry to lead the Labour Party. putting Teresa May in charge and getting votes from confused gammons is probably the best chance they've got in the next GE
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Does anyone have Corbyn's original quote on "kinder, gentler politics"? I want to know what the context was at the time, but all I can find is half a decade of journos bringing it up trying own left wingers for bullying them.
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OwlFancier posted:I am not over 60 and not in line for a vaccine and as far as I'm concerned you can throw all the over 60s in a big blender cos I don't see why I should be put at risk just because they'll probably be fine. I’m surprised there wasn’t a stronger reaction to this post, which was actually pretty appalling. Talking about other groups in that way here wouldn’t be tolerated. big scary monsters posted:Does anyone have Corbyn's original quote on "kinder, gentler politics"? I want to know what the context was at the time, but all I can find is half a decade of journos bringing it up trying own left wingers for bullying them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-34392427 First result for “corbyn quote kinder gentler politics”
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:but also have saved £16k so can't get universal credit either. Wait a second, do they stop you getting universal credit if you have savings?
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Wait a second, do they stop you getting universal credit if you have savings? Yes.
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big scary monsters posted:Does anyone have Corbyn's original quote on "kinder, gentler politics"? I want to know what the context was at the time, but all I can find is half a decade of journos bringing it up trying own left wingers for bullying them. technically he never said 'gentler' 'kinder, gentler nation' as a phrase is due to George HW Bush
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Dead Goon posted:Yes. what the poo poo! no wonder folk don't bother saving money
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therattle posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-34392427 ronya posted:technically he never said 'gentler' Thank you both! 
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big scary monsters posted:Does anyone have Corbyn's original quote on "kinder, gentler politics"? I want to know what the context was at the time, but all I can find is half a decade of journos bringing it up trying own left wingers for bullying them. You can probably find some stuff if you ask a wizard what the proper incantation is to limit search results to 2015-ish, though E: beaten much more helpfully, & apparently wrong
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Gonzo McFee posted:Labour hiring an IDF Shitpost decoder isn't as funny as them outsourcing campaigning. to be fair the labour party absolutely needs reorganising and its clear the organisation needs some professionals brought in to actually be like what the gently caress is this organisation meant to do and how do any of your party processes accomplish that? a large part of the last 5 years was massive organisational incompetence being blamed on corbyn it seems like a complete shithouse in there
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JollyBoyJohn posted:what the poo poo! Yeah, I'm lucky enough to have a decent whack of savings, so since I got made redundant in 2019 I've just been melting through them while I guess being completely invisible to the government and not appearing on any unemployment statistics. I guess when they run out I can enjoy the exciting world of documenting 35 hours a week of job-seeking activity for a pittance.
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Dead Goon posted:Yes. Can people not just take the money out of their bank account? Inadvisable as it would be to just have money sitting under your mattress this would bypass the restriction right?
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Wait a second, do they stop you getting universal credit if you have savings? There's a sliding scale between I think £6k or £8k when they start knocking your UC down and at £16k they stop it altogether. And if you have a pension plan that you could tap into (currently over 55) they expect you to raid that too before you can get UC.
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therattle posted:I’m surprised there wasn’t a stronger reaction to this post, which was actually pretty appalling. Talking about other groups in that way here wouldn’t be tolerated. 
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Communist Thoughts posted:to be fair the labour party absolutely needs reorganising and its clear the organisation needs some professionals brought in to actually be like what the gently caress is this organisation meant to do and how do any of your party processes accomplish that? The administration (basic office functions) were appalling and in the basically anti-Corbyn Welsh labour under whatsisface before Drakeford, that absolutely could not be blamed on Corbyn.
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wow, I had no idea, I've been fortunate enough to have avoided being on unemployment benefit ever and i had it drummed into my head from a young age to look after my money i'm not quite at the level where I wouldn't get any benefits but i'm certainly now questioning why i'm sitting in a freezing cold flat with a 40 year old boiler, dodgy central heating and a few spare thousand in the bank
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Regarde Aduck posted:Can people not just take the money out of their bank account? Inadvisable as it would be to just have money sitting under your mattress this would bypass the restriction right? Ha. I have been tempted but if they catch on you're in poo poo (and you have to show bank statements for 6 months I think so you'd have to plan it well in advance). The other thing, having had a bank account inaccessible for several weeks at one point, I determined never to have to depend on just one account ever again so I have 3 current accounts. I circulate the SAME bit of money round them each month by a cunning system of standing orders (this is to keep all the accounts alive and not ending up with money trapped in a dormant account as has happened to someone I know.) I do not rate the intellectual abilities of the sort of people working at the DWP to be able to understand that*, and instead of the paltry £60pw income I am actually getting, they would somehow work out I'm getting £bn). *Having signed on for a few weeks back in 1982 and encountered people who wrote along rulers, wouldn't let you fill out the forms yourself and misspelt just about every facet of my name and address, putting wrong dates on a form resulting in me getting no money for weeks and being taken to a tribunal WHICH I WAS NOT INFORMED ABOUT - and bless his cotton socks was only sorted when I got my (tory) MP on the case and funnily enough the file which I had been told had been lost every day for 4 weeks was remarkably found the day his letter arrived in their office. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jan 19, 2021 |
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JollyBoyJohn posted:wow, I had no idea, I've been fortunate enough to have avoided being on unemployment benefit ever and i had it drummed into my head from a young age to look after my money Just wait til they bring in negative interest rates. It's a killer (one of my accounts is getting hit with that right now - it's not a standard savings account and I shouldn't complain because the interest rate in the before times was over 5% then fell to 0% and since mid November has been MINUS 2% PER MONTH which I think might be finishing in Feb but I'm not sure, they sent an email full of jargon that I didn't have the mental energy to decode just now.).
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Ha. I have been tempted but if they catch on you're in poo poo (and you have to show bank statements for 6 months I think so you'd have to plan it well in advance). I think your perception of the risk of a bank account being rendered inaccessible (what are the chances of such a rare event happening to you again?) or an account with money in it having something done to it for "lying dormant" (not a thing) is much higher than it actually is in reality.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:what the poo poo! Why would the government (and in particular this government) pay you an income if you already have money?
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