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Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Seph posted:

Dead last by what metric? I hope you're not quoting absolute numbers, since that would be silly considering California is the most populous state in the union.

On a per-capita basis, California is:

- #26 out of 50 for confirmed cases at 77 cases per thousand (#1 is North Dakota with 126 cases per thousand)
- #39 out of 50 for deaths with 0.862 deaths per thousand (#1 New Jersey with 2.313 deaths per thousand)

So on number of cases we're actually pretty much average, and we're doing really well when it comes to deaths per capita.

I’m sure this will be a great comfort for the thousands of Californians currently dying of Covid.

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Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Oneiros posted:

also i love how people act like the only other thing we could have done was lock everyone in their homes for an entire year. that's definitely a thing other countries have done to get infections under control and not a fantasy to make the budget concern trolling more justifiable.

Other than people posting exactly that scenario a few pages ago, tops?

quote:

Please make sure you poo poo on newsom in the properly designated manner. Failure to do so demonstrates a fundamental unseriousness with respect to making GBS threads and may result in loss of posting privileges. Thank you for your cooperation.

Just in case I'm not misinterpreting this: My star is for a different subforum and I don't moderate like that anyway. poo poo on my posts all you want; I'm not an IK for D&D and wouldn't probe for it even if I was. :v:

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

adoration for none posted:

Yeah, it was hard to sleep with these hurricane force winds blowing around my apartment and poo poo bouncing around loudly outside.

E: lol


Tall buildings are supposed to sway in the wind.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

raminasi posted:

Tall buildings are supposed to sway in the wind.

What a building is rated to do by a civil engineer is still something that can disturb people, even if it's well within spec.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Shear Modulus posted:

It is with a heavy heart that i must announce that feinstein is at it again

https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1351553025605857281?s=20

In the UsPol thread I was told that I was a bad poster thinking that nothing would happen to any of the senators that helped perpetuate 1/6. Lmao.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

DoomTrainPhD posted:

In the UsPol thread I was told that I was a bad poster thinking that nothing would happen to any of the senators that helped perpetuate 1/6. Lmao.

I post a lot in USPol and almost everbody agrees with you so :shrug:

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Dirk the Average posted:

What a building is rated to do by a civil engineer is still something that can disturb people, even if it's well within spec.

For engineers, the Drink still flows at the same rate that it did in the 1800s.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Sydin posted:

If Gavin had tried to deploy the National Guard to enforce COVID protocols Trump absolutely would have just made up a pretext to federalize it and then told them to stay put because he's a spiteful, vindictive dipshit who went out of his way to gently caress over blue states any way he could during the COVID pandemic. Hell even if he didn't we would have quickly run into the snag that while the National Guard is usually federally funded, the state is on the hook for the cost of any mobilization activity that takes place for response purposes within that state, directed by the state government. Gavin couldn't have just mobilized the NG for months on end to enforce COVID protocol and then handed Trump the bill.

And yeah, Gavin as well as many other blue governors eventually ran into the issue where really getting COVID under control meant strictly enforced lockdowns and quarantines - enforced by cops and national guardsmen - as many other countries did. However you've got large swaths of the population including many of your own cops who are right on the brink of mutiny just for being asked politely to wear a cloth mask and please not go out past 10PM at night unless it's strictly necessary, so putting your state under an effective martial law to restrict freedom of movement until the virus was contained - even if you had the infinite budget required to do it - would at best have been political suicide and at worst caused large volumes of cops to openly refuse to enforce the orders ripping the fragile veneer of control we like to think politicians have over pigs clean off.
Oh I agree that it's political suicide, hence I said technically he could, but politically it's not very feasible. Looking up the president wresting control of the National Guard from the Governor... I guess I would have to look back when that became a thing. My (limited) understanding is Governors effectively held control of the State National Guard.

So here's another angle for technically possible but politically infeasible ideas: The California Highway Patrol should be under control of the Governor through CALSTA, and could be given a wide range of orders (if worded properly) via executive order. Based off the FBI UCR report for 2019 there's roughly ~7000 CHP officers, and the rest are support personnel. They have jurisdiction over not just CA Highways but also city roads and are able to conduct general law enforcement duties in both of these areas. Pretextual Stops (i.e. stopping for a theoretical traffic violation that may have occurred as a pretext for doing an investigation of another violation/crime) are often used (and abused) by LEOs, especially since Whren v United States afaik.

What could the Governor do then with 7000 agents of the state that can basically stop anyone at any time on any city road or highway to conduct an investigation? Taking ideas.

Not saying utilizing them as COVID enforcement would be politically feasible by any standard (or that even this would be a good idea), but I am trying to say that the Governor does have levers of power. I could actually imagine a scenario where a different governor may have utilized them in a "soft" capacity for emergency executive order enforcement.

Dr. Fraiser Chain
May 18, 2004

Redlining my shit posting machine


They changed a bunch of poo poo in the early 90s and again after 9/11 so there is federal control over the NG.

Yay! Plus if you do time as a state activated resource you don't get veterans benefits. Ask me how I know that one

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
is CBS channel 13 in Sactown the Sinclair chud station because all they've been doing tonight is screaming and farting, talking to "FBI experts!" and showing an ANTI-FA protest from earlier today downtown near the state capital with about 20 people walking around and about 100 bike cops following them around. "THEY MIGHT BE BACK TONIGHT!!!! WATCH OUT!!!" "WHAT WILL BIDEN DO IN THE NEXT 100 DAYS HE'S ALREADY FAILED!"

Greg12
Apr 22, 2020
how are they going to buy alcohol from distributors without liquor licenses? lol

eSporks
Jun 10, 2011

Keyser_Soze posted:

is CBS channel 13 in Sactown the Sinclair chud station because all they've been doing tonight is screaming and farting, talking to "FBI experts!" and showing an ANTI-FA protest from earlier today downtown near the state capital with about 20 people walking around and about 100 bike cops following them around. "THEY MIGHT BE BACK TONIGHT!!!! WATCH OUT!!!" "WHAT WILL BIDEN DO IN THE NEXT 100 DAYS HE'S ALREADY FAILED!"
According to this, they do not own any in sac
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stations_owned_or_operated_by_Sinclair_Broadcast_Group

I usually watch Fox 40 or kcra 3 for local news here. It's nothing like national fox.
Both have kinda shy'd away from reporting on BLM and usually report by using broad terms "protestors gathered at the Capitol today and we're met by police"

Local news is honestly REALLY BAD here. A few months back they gave a UFO-ologist a 10 minute slot to talk about the shocking new evidence released!

Sac Bee recently got bought out. It's become pretty click baity and hidden behind paywalls.

Local television news usually just brushes the surface of political things. I've never seen them go deep on a topic, even local ones.

Sacramento News and Review is really good, but it's very small. It's almost mostly focused on culture.

If you are looking for protest coverage, send me a PM and I can link you to some activist social media accounts that have been covering things well.

Keyser_Soze
May 5, 2009

Pillbug
I do usually watch KCRA 3 and they covered it with the 30 seconds it deserved, I just thought it was hmmmm interesting that 13 was going so long with it. If you want to see a full dose of Sinclair madness go down to Fresno and check out Fox 26, you will get various "Sinclair TERRORISM, IMMIGRATION MURDERERS, SOCIALISM DEMS! desks" along with interviews with well reasoned intelligentsia such as Devin Nunes or McCarthy, lol. Then they close with some drooling rant by Boris Epshtyn or some other ghoul to close it out.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Just got my CA ADEM ballots, is there an endorsement guide somewhere for the LA area?

Something Else
Dec 27, 2004

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022
Depends on your Assembly District, but you can read candidate statements here: https://adem.cadem.org/assembly-districts/

And here’s a progressive slate if you happen to be in AD 43: https://www.forward43.com/

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



Something Else posted:

Depends on your Assembly District, but you can read candidate statements here: https://adem.cadem.org/assembly-districts/

And here’s a progressive slate if you happen to be in AD 43: https://www.forward43.com/

I'm in AD 51. DSA-LA doesn't have much up it seems

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

You can try here if you're looking for a list of progressive candidates: https://www.adems2021.vote/

JesusIsTehCool
Aug 26, 2002

luminalflux posted:

I'm in AD 51. DSA-LA doesn't have much up it seems

Dsa-la insta has recommendations. https://www.instagram.com/p/CKMgx8kgtdT/?igshid=1d1fljphcgzxt

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
I have a friend who's immunocompromised and is doing grocery delivery to avoid human interaction(in CA area, San Diego to be specific). They still want to be as ethical as possible within the constraints.

Is there any grocery delivery service that's less bad than the others, or at least treats employees better, or are they all the same degree of poo poo?

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Jaxyon posted:

I have a friend who's immunocompromised and is doing grocery delivery to avoid human interaction(in CA area, San Diego to be specific). They still want to be as ethical as possible within the constraints.

Is there any grocery delivery service that's less bad than the others, or at least treats employees better, or are they all the same degree of poo poo?

Safeway uses actual employees for delivery right now but they are in the process of replacing those employees with Doordash after Prop 22.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Jaxyon posted:

I have a friend who's immunocompromised and is doing grocery delivery to avoid human interaction(in CA area, San Diego to be specific). They still want to be as ethical as possible within the constraints.

Is there any grocery delivery service that's less bad than the others, or at least treats employees better, or are they all the same degree of poo poo?

There are options where you can drive up, pop your trunk, and the employees there will load your trunk for you. A lot of older folks were doing that according to my mother (who is one of said older folks). That might work out for your friend, since they wouldn't need to leave the vehicle.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

withak posted:

Safeway uses actual employees for delivery right now but they are in the process of replacing those employees with Doordash after Prop 22.

Keep in mind, Safeway only uses actual employees for delivery if you order a day in advance. If you want same-day delivery, they'll use instacart.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Jaxyon posted:

I have a friend who's immunocompromised and is doing grocery delivery to avoid human interaction(in CA area, San Diego to be specific). They still want to be as ethical as possible within the constraints.

Is there any grocery delivery service that's less bad than the others, or at least treats employees better, or are they all the same degree of poo poo?

I don't have any vetted tips for SD, but these could be options to explore further based on a quick search

Co-op grocery that offers curbside pickup: https://www.obpeoplesfood.coop

Possible local delivery service (unclear if they contract out, but seems like maybe not), but with pretty limited stock: https://sandiegofooddelivery.com

This seems like more of a national chain and also unclear if they contract out delivery drivers but their FAQ suggests they own their own delivery vans which makes me think perhaps they're actual full time employees? Not sure. https://www.imperfectfoods.com

For anyone in the Bay/NorCal, I've been using Good Eggs delivery, which as far as I can tell only uses full-time employees for delivery and does a great job sourcing from local farms/producers. It's bougie AF and expensive to be fair. https://www.goodeggs.com/sfbay/home

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

withak posted:

Safeway uses actual employees for delivery right now but they are in the process of replacing those employees with Doordash after Prop 22.

Except in the Bay Area because the Safeway delivery drivers there are part of UCFW5.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Dirk the Average posted:

There are options where you can drive up, pop your trunk, and the employees there will load your trunk for you. A lot of older folks were doing that according to my mother (who is one of said older folks). That might work out for your friend, since they wouldn't need to leave the vehicle.

I believe she's too sick to drive.

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

I don't have any vetted tips for SD, but these could be options to explore further based on a quick search

Co-op grocery that offers curbside pickup: https://www.obpeoplesfood.coop

Possible local delivery service (unclear if they contract out, but seems like maybe not), but with pretty limited stock: https://sandiegofooddelivery.com

This seems like more of a national chain and also unclear if they contract out delivery drivers but their FAQ suggests they own their own delivery vans which makes me think perhaps they're actual full time employees? Not sure. https://www.imperfectfoods.com

For anyone in the Bay/NorCal, I've been using Good Eggs delivery, which as far as I can tell only uses full-time employees for delivery and does a great job sourcing from local farms/producers. It's bougie AF and expensive to be fair. https://www.goodeggs.com/sfbay/home

Thanks for this

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Dirk the Average posted:

What a building is rated to do by a civil engineer is still something that can disturb people, even if it's well within spec.

I'm on the ninth floor and less than two miles from the Pacific for the full onshore breeze effect. It took me ten years to get used to the swaying, it's like a low-pass filter for my inner ear. I don't feel it at all unless a sudden gust hits. The real downside is the lag time from the end of an earthquake that I notice (less than about 4.0 doesn't register anymore) until the building settles down. The adrenaline guarantees you'll notice that.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005




Oh nice. I guess going to "websites" isn't a thing any more. I'll check out their recs!

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
Tip your shoppers and or sustenance-to-prevent-starvation drivers a loving shitload, too.

JesusIsTehCool
Aug 26, 2002

luminalflux posted:

Oh nice. I guess going to "websites" isn't a thing any more. I'll check out their recs!

Yea, I don't know explicitly for DSA-LA, but Street Watch LA gets way more traffic on its insta than its website to the point where the website is super neglected but the social media has a whole team.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

fermun posted:

Keep in mind, Safeway only uses actual employees for delivery if you order a day in advance. If you want same-day delivery, they'll use instacart.

Walmart has used door dash for the past couple deliveries I’ve placed 1-2 days prior.

Also, Walmart+ loving owns if you have 5 kids and never want to spend a second in the grocery store or waiting in their parking lot ever again. As long as you plan 24h in advance.

luminalflux
May 27, 2005



JesusIsTehCool posted:

Yea, I don't know explicitly for DSA-LA, but Street Watch LA gets way more traffic on its insta than its website to the point where the website is super neglected but the social media has a whole team.

Yeah I mean, I checked the DSA-LA website and their endorsements page says they explicitly aren't endorsing for 21 or 22, so idk what's up.



Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Also, Walmart+ loving owns if you have 5 kids and never want to spend a second in the grocery store or waiting in their parking lot ever again. As long as you plan 24h in advance.

Hell, with just me and my wife we're super happy not having to go to the store. Sucks that Whole Foods and Amazon Fresh are routinely out of stuff though

Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni

Jaxyon posted:

I believe she's too sick to drive.


Thanks for this

You might come ask in the San Diego thread, may get some more input

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

This seems apropos to the delivery recommendations: https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/7k9deg/instacart-says-it-will-lay-off-all-of-its-unionized-workers


quote:

Instacart did not respond to a question about how many workers would be terminated, but has said that it will help laid off workers transition into new roles at other grocery stores—or into gig worker positions at Instacart, and provide severance packages to all laid off workers depending on their tenure. By laying off in-store shoppers who are employees who are eligible to unionize and transitioning them into non-union eligible gig workers roles, Instacart is also making it more difficult for its workforce to unionize.


Thanks, prop 22.

GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jan 22, 2021

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Instacart is being lovely, but I really don't see how California prop 22 was used against workers in Illinois.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Just discovered a cursed image

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



That is a baffling outfit. I guess it's a...dress? A short dress, but with long sleeves, and printed to look like a bathing suit.

Anyway, gently caress Feinstein.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Sharks Eat Bear posted:

Just discovered a cursed image



No way

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Kenning posted:

That is a baffling outfit. I guess it's a...dress? A short dress, but with long sleeves, and printed to look like a bathing suit.

Anyway, gently caress Feinstein.

to be fair, I think it was a replica of the actual bathing suits that would get rented out to Sutro Baths patrons in the late 1800s/early 1900s. The baths could accommodate up to 10,000 people at a time! pretty crazy. I try to avoid any wistful romanticizing of old tycoons, but it does seem like Sutro was about as progressive as they come, or at least genuinely interested in civic service. that said I haven't really read his history too closely at all so i'm sure he was also a monster in plenty of ways

but yeah, also gently caress feinstein

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

Just discovered a cursed image


Is this picture from 1979 or 1879?

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Eric Cantonese
Dec 21, 2004

You should hear my accent.
My Youtube feed is infested with "Why I'm leaving California!" videos due to going down the financial Youtube rabbit hole. What's the coverage like in California over people moving out?

And are the people leaving more likely to be voting Red or Blue? Something tells me it's the former.

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