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Lawman 0 posted:It would be literally easier to overthrow the government. Brb, forming a revolutionary vanguard with a bunch of weed moms and reiki practitioners
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Lib and let die posted:The point was never to get Howie to win, we all knew it was never going to happen. That's fine and all but lol if you think it'd have actually accomplished anything I mean didn't 2016 leading to Biden in 2020 clue a bunch of people in to how effective "voting third party" is? Or 2000 leading to Kerry??
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^^^dratFlavius Aetass posted:yeah it's amazing how many people can't read but can post The purest form of
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The "point" is that the public faces of the American Left sheepdogged you shmucks into supporting a warmongering austerity rapist in exchange for nothing. They should be scorned, humiliated, and exiled. "Howie" was the best avenue to make that voice heard and make some real demands, regardless of the party/platform. Instead, the American Left guaranteed an even worse Trump in 2024 by rolling over like a dog for a warmongering austerity rapist and his horrific vision of the future by sucking off fracking towers and arming fascists in the Ukraine and the Middle East, while using American fascists as a bludgeon to terrorize you into endorsing Jeff Bezos and Wall Street dominating every aspect of your life.
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I guess all hope is lost mise well vote for biden
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brugroffil posted:That's fine and all but lol if you think it'd have actually accomplished anything this is why i fell off the succ zone even if you people had prevented biden, it wouldnt have mattered
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Taintrunner posted:The "point" is that the public faces of the American Left sheepdogged you shmucks into supporting a warmongering austerity rapist in exchange for nothing. They should be scorned, humiliated, and exiled. "Howie" was the best avenue to make that voice heard and make some real demands, regardless of the party/platform. Instead, the American Left guaranteed an even worse Trump in 2024 by rolling over like a dog for a warmongering austerity rapist and his horrific vision of the future by sucking off fracking towers and arming fascists in the Ukraine and the Middle East, while using American fascists as a bludgeon to terrorize you into endorsing Jeff Bezos and Wall Street dominating every aspect of your life. This is the funny part
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Reality Protester posted:breaking the two party duopoly is the most important goal in american leftism. greens are simply the best avenue (currently) for that. If you actually believe the crystal touchers are useful for anything I don't know what to tell you.
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Reality Protester posted:breaking the two party duopoly is the most important goal in american leftism. greens are simply the best avenue (currently) for that. see i'm not even sure i believe that anymore certainly it's going to be the most important goal but at this point i think it's rather obvious that we need to be focusing on building class consciousness, which exists even less in this country than i think we all thought it did voting for greens earnestly is just kind of being a dissatisfied lib, which accomplishes nothing
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brugroffil posted:That's fine and all but lol if you think it'd have actually accomplished anything I make no bones about it: the only thing that drove me out to vote was spite. Not hope, not idealism, not pragmatism, base spite.
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I'm a radical Communist Who thinks electoralism via third party voting is the way forward Lol
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brugroffil posted:I'm a radical Communist Well, nobody here is suggesting you post mycrimes.txt so don't waste your time.
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[lib and let die" post="511881239"] I make no bones about it: the only thing that drove me out to vote was spite. Not hope, not idealism, not pragmatism, base spite. [/quote] See this I get, at least
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brugroffil posted:I'm a radical Communist *looks in the mirror* "I'm the sheepdog????"
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Taintrunner posted:The "point" is that the public faces of the American Left sheepdogged you shmucks into supporting a warmongering austerity rapist in exchange for nothing. They should be scorned, humiliated, and exiled. "Howie" was the best avenue to make that voice heard and make some real demands, regardless of the party/platform. Instead, the American Left guaranteed an even worse Trump in 2024 by rolling over like a dog for a warmongering austerity rapist and his horrific vision of the future by sucking off fracking towers and arming fascists in the Ukraine and the Middle East, while using American fascists as a bludgeon to terrorize you into endorsing Jeff Bezos and Wall Street dominating every aspect of your life. who are you talking to 
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Flavius Aetass posted:see i'm not even sure i believe that anymore expanding class consciousness by calling everyone a white supremacist
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Zokari posted:this is why i fell off the succ zone except the succ zone is right and now fascism is going to dominate 2022 and curbstomp the democrats out of existence in 2024. have fun!
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Lawman 0 posted:If you actually believe the crystal touchers are useful for anything I don't know what to tell you. it's possible to remake parties, especially weak third parties like the greens. the uk Labour party was the party of Tony Blair and the Iraq war and they became the party of Corbyn. it didnt hold, but they had some legit attempts at winning elections. you could do that with the greens.
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Taintrunner posted:except the succ zone is right and now fascism is going to dominate 2022 and curbstomp the democrats out of existence in 2024. yeah maybe
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Jan 22, 2021 15:56
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Reality Protester posted:breaking the two party duopoly is the most important goal in american leftism. greens are simply the best avenue (currently) for that. there's no way to do that without changing the election framework
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Reality Protester posted:it's possible to remake parties, especially weak third parties like the greens. the uk Labour party was the party of Tony Blair and the Iraq war and they became the party of Corbyn. it didnt hold, but they had some legit attempts at winning elections. you could do that with the greens. The greens are completely useless.
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Taintrunner got so caught up running taints That he didn't realize the only taint he's been running Is his own
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Zokari posted:yeah maybe no, precisely. obama/biden austerity from 2008-2016 cost the democrats 1000+ seats nationwide. biden plans on recreating that success, and will suicide piledriver the democrats off the edge of a cliff. and then he will toss the keys of this turnkey tyranny to either trump or someone far more competent in 2024.
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just absolute baby brain poo poo. “howie was the best chance to have your voice heard” lmao Clinton eating poo poo didn’t teach the libs one lesson, Biden losing wouldn’t either, and the greens will never ever be anything more than meme party. howie hawkins lmbo
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Yeah but screaming about voting Howie was never going to change that, dumb dumb
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oxsnard posted:expanding class consciousness by calling everyone a white supremacist that does nothing unless you also scream at other leftists in the joke politics forum on something is awful
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Lawman 0 posted:The greens are completely useless. not a single face of the American Left bothered to organize and make an actual demand of the Democrats, and instead stayed at home and jerked off in their monitors as a warmongering austerity rapist was ushered in as the savior of American democracy, even after he was undemocratically installed to deny poor people healthcare. If you couldn't even bother to organize a protest vote in support of ecosocialism, then shut the gently caress up you loving cowards.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:just absolute baby brain poo poo. “howie was the best chance to have your voice heard” lmao Lessons? No. Tremendous content? Yes.
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Taintrunner posted:except the succ zone is right and now fascism is going to dominate 2022 and curbstomp the democrats out of existence in 2024. given what you were saying about 2020 I’m pretty excited to watch this play out, nostradamus
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Protest votes, always meaningful and effective. Can't think of a single time they weren't useful.
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nihilism poisoned internet leftists have successfully predicted 12 of the last 2 fascist coups
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Soup du Jour posted:given what you were saying about 2020 I’m pretty excited to watch this play out, nostradamus the dipshit libs said Biden would win in a blowout. I said Trump would barely win. Biden barely won, and killed the party downticket in what was supposed to be a wave election, and will now suicide piledriver the rest of the party off the edge of a cliff in the midterms and 2024. Turns out I was a hell of a lot more right than the loving liberal morons in the OG succ zone.
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ArmZ posted:there's no way to do that without changing the election framework
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brugroffil posted:Protest votes, always meaningful and effective. Can't think of a single time they weren't useful. I'm sure all those tweets convinced the zoomers to abandon electoralism and oh, wait, they heard there was a heckin dang cheeto in the white haus, and have endorsed committing suicide via climate apocalypse through president biden's heaven gate.
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Taintrunner posted:the dipshit libs said Biden would win in a blowout. I said Trump would barely win. Biden barely won, and killed the party downticket in what was supposed to be a wave election, and will now suicide piledriver the rest of the party off the edge of a cliff in the midterms and 2024. Turns out I was a hell of a lot more right than the loving liberal morons in the OG succ zone. and if biden had lost what would have happened instead
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Zokari posted:and if biden had lost what would have happened instead Well, you wouldn't have kicked every single progressive issue down the loving road by 8-12 years loving minimum. The Green New Deal is now exactly as worthless and toothless as the Paris Accord. Enjoy!
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According to the dem party, green voters are responsible for the last 4 years of Hillary crying in her upstate retirement home. You're welcome.
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Zokari posted:and if biden had lost what would have happened instead The libs would be owned lol
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Taintrunner posted:I'm sure all those tweets convinced the zoomers to abandon electoralism and oh, wait, they heard there was a heckin dang cheeto in the white haus, and have endorsed committing suicide via climate apocalypse through president biden's heaven gate. You don't get it, you continue to run yourself
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