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Svaha posted:These people are the biggest rubes. its in a bunch of scifi media though 
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Jan 22, 2021 21:43
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Svaha posted:These people are the biggest rubes. With enough computing power and a scanner powerful enough, you could theoretically calculate how to reverse the process and then print out a copy of the person. Yes this means we have to be able to print a person, brains and all, before this could even theoretically work.
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Jan 22, 2021 21:44
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Svaha posted:These people are the biggest rubes. Depends if the body was properly prepped or not. The rupturing of cells is typically caused by ice-crystals forming in the cell. So essentially if you embalm the body with some form of antifreeze, and then get it to sub zero very quickly, you can get the body into the "frozen" state without ice crystals forming. Many amphibians do this in the winter, freezing solid but surviving the process because of a natural antifreeze secreted in their cells. I'm sure most cryogenically preserved bodies though have not been properly prepped.
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Jan 22, 2021 22:26
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So do they freeze these people just before they die or is it after they're already dead?
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Jan 22, 2021 22:27
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christmas boots posted:So do they freeze these people just before they die or is it after they're already dead? after they’re legally dead
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Jan 22, 2021 22:31
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hobbesmaster posted:after they’re legally dead lmao good luck with that
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Jan 22, 2021 22:37
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Splicer posted:My lawn is a mass of clover and snapdragons Good. Start an apiary. Dandelions are also extremely nutritious.
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Jan 22, 2021 22:58
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Depends if the body was properly prepped or not. The rupturing of cells is typically caused by ice-crystals forming in the cell. So essentially if you embalm the body with some form of antifreeze, and then get it to sub zero very quickly, you can get the body into the "frozen" state without ice crystals forming. Many amphibians do this in the winter, freezing solid but surviving the process because of a natural antifreeze secreted in their cells. True, none of these bodies were prepped, because no one knows how to do it with humans. Cryonics isn't impossible, it just isn't possible right now. All current frozen bodies are dead, now and forever. endlessmonotony posted:With enough computing power and a scanner powerful enough, you could theoretically calculate how to reverse the process and then print out a copy of the person. I have my doubts about repairing cell damage in the brain caused by freezing, seems like you'd probably end up with a perfectly identical vegetable. It would be like drilling holes in a hard drive, then smashing it with a hammer, then scorching it with a blowtorch for good measure, then wondering why you got laughed out of the office at the data recovery place. taqueso posted:its in a bunch of scifi media though Interstellar space travel has been just around the corner in sci fi for over half a century too. We haven't even figured out how to keep astronauts from frying like bacon in the radiation of interplanetary travel, let alone get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time. Svaha has issued a correction as of 23:17 on Jan 22, 2021 |
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Jan 22, 2021 23:00
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endlessmonotony posted:With enough computing power and a scanner powerful enough, you could theoretically calculate how to reverse the process and then print out a copy of the person. yeah but with a slightly more powerful computer we could simply calculate all the atoms in the universe backwards and reverse any death. there is no need to freeze corpses, we just need a bigger computer
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Jan 22, 2021 23:01
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Frankenstein showed us that all you need to do is electrocute a dead body to bring it back
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Jan 22, 2021 23:04
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Rutibex posted:yeah but with a slightly more powerful computer we could simply calculate all the atoms in the universe backwards and reverse any death. there is no need to freeze corpses, we just need a bigger computer Technically true. But the difference in required power is rather large.
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Jan 22, 2021 23:04
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Rutibex posted:yeah but with a slightly more powerful computer we could simply calculate all the atoms in the universe backwards and reverse any death. there is no need to freeze corpses, we just need a bigger computer Yeah but at that point you've created that stupid basilisk thing and it will simulate thousands of yous and subject the fake yous to torture and this will be a problem for some reason
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Jan 22, 2021 23:05
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i read this sci fi book once where there were a bunch of people scavenging in this old high tech ruin which had served as a cryo facility. the scavengers just went around looting all the technology and throwing the frozen rich people on a trash heap. p cool.
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Jan 22, 2021 23:09
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uber_stoat posted:i read this sci fi book once where there were a bunch of people scavenging in this old high tech ruin which had served as a cryo facility. the scavengers just went around looting all the technology and throwing the frozen rich people on a trash heap. p cool. Idiocracy was a great movie
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Jan 22, 2021 23:14
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uber_stoat posted:i read this sci fi book once where there were a bunch of people scavenging in this old high tech ruin which had served as a cryo facility. the scavengers just went around looting all the technology and throwing the frozen rich people on a trash heap. p cool. Honestly, this seems like the most likely outcome. Either that, or "Eh. No one is around anymore to care about honouring the contract and electricity is expensive, pull the plug."
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Jan 22, 2021 23:22
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Svaha posted:These people are the biggest rubes. Their brain is already inert jelly so they've got a few, uh, hurdles even before getting to all the cell damage (some relatively complex animals can survive being frozen for years, so that part is at least theoretically surmountable--of course they are frozen while alive, not after death).
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Jan 22, 2021 23:50
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https://twitter.com/thegamerwebsite/status/1352630550616543233?s=20
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Jan 22, 2021 23:51
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ekuNNN posted:Can you really patent something that has been so overdone already in sci-fi stories? I'm guessing the actual patent is something technological? I believe that a patent for a waterbed was denied due to 'prior art', being a reasonably detailed description by Robert Heinlein
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Jan 23, 2021 00:26
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quote:Blue Eye Security Monitoring System My apartment building just installed snitchcams in the entire complex that will shout at you and then call the cops https://blueeyedefense.com/ How does it work you might ask? quote:Blue Eye has a unique approach to providing security for your site. We use our proprietary Blackbox technology to turn your existing camera network into an active security system. Your cameras become the sensors and our AI software embedded inside the Blackbox watches the property for threats while you are away. Once detected, an alarm is immediately sent to our command center where our highly trained Video Surveillance Technicians (VSTs) take over. Now a live person sees the property in real time to assess the situation and take appropriate action. Appropriate responses may be a verbal warning over the loudspeaker, calling the police or welcoming a resident home for the evening. Our approach of using both artificial and human intelligence allows for a safe and comfortable solution and all of this is done utilizing the cameras you already have installed. its a good thing proprietary machine learning systems arent known for any kind of systematic bias problems right guys guys
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Jan 23, 2021 00:29
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I should also mention that the elevators here have been broken for about six weeks, the main gate doesn't latch shut, and there are dog piss stains all over the carpets in the halls but they're spending my money where it counts e: this is because there's a small homeless encampment across the street now isn't it, i loving hate this place The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 00:38 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Jan 23, 2021 00:34
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Svaha posted:These people are the biggest rubes. the trick is that they don't have to pay till after they're dead, so whether or not it works doesn't really matter to the person getting frozen. they don't pay anything while they're alive, so they don't actually have to have much money on hand. they can just sign their life insurance or their house or something over to the cryonics company in their will even if it turns out to be a scam, it's their kids who lose out, not them
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Jan 23, 2021 01:38
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Good time to bring up the hosed-up saga of Ted Williams' Head.
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Jan 23, 2021 02:09
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Laterite posted:Mods, execute Taintrunner 66.
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Jan 23, 2021 02:56
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Jesus Christ
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Jan 23, 2021 03:27
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Main Paineframe posted:the trick is that they don't have to pay till after they're dead, so whether or not it works doesn't really matter to the person getting frozen. they don't pay anything while they're alive, so they don't actually have to have much money on hand. they can just sign their life insurance or their house or something over to the cryonics company in their will Ultimate Boomer post-death strategy.
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Jan 23, 2021 04:04
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Svaha posted:Ultimate Boomer post-death strategy. reverse mortgaging your corpse
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Jan 23, 2021 05:41
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There’s a book “Tomorrow and Tomorrow” that’s about a guy freezing his wife with a terminal illness, and then himself, but only after learning enough about current events and cultures that would make him useful to be woken up. From what I recall, it did an excellent job talking not only about the mechanics of cryogenics but the ethics as well.
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Jan 23, 2021 05:53
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Svaha posted:These people are the biggest rubes. what part of future magic did you not understand?
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Jan 23, 2021 06:32
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goatsestretchgoals posted:what part of future magic did you not understand? There is literally a star trek episode about this and they get revived with future magic.
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Jan 23, 2021 07:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGVlMhahw_I
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Jan 23, 2021 07:57
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Clippy says: Looks like you're trying to simulacrum a loved one. Sometimes dead is better!
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Jan 23, 2021 08:41
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there was another book where they wake up the frozen to be indentured servants, keeping all that cryo running costs a lot lol
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Jan 23, 2021 13:36
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Jan 23, 2021 15:14
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the drink is pee
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Jan 23, 2021 15:36
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This is already real! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4GexzPRtE
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Jan 23, 2021 15:46
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synthetik posted:There’s a book “Tomorrow and Tomorrow” that’s about a guy freezing his wife with a terminal illness, and then himself, but only after learning enough about current events and cultures that would make him useful to be woken up. From what I recall, it did an excellent job talking not only about the mechanics of cryogenics but the ethics as well.
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Jan 23, 2021 16:13
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cryogenics won't be real until elon invents the concept
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Jan 23, 2021 16:56
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:cryogenics won't be real until elon invents the concept Oh he already invented it for spacex https://spaceflightnow.com/2020/04/27/starship-prototype-clears-cryogenic-pressure-test/ Cryonics should be any day now!
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Jan 23, 2021 16:58
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CONTROVERSIAL: Eurotruck 2022 adds new "Brexit" mission where you deliver coronavirus vaccines to Calais while dodging Moroccan immigrants trying to climb onto your trailer. Out now on Steam and GOG.
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Jan 23, 2021 17:31
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Splicer posted:It won't do this unless the source also includes a bunch of posts saying things like "AHHH I DIED PLEASE DON'T TURN ME OFF OH GOD NO I DONT WANT TO BE DEAD AGAIN" If you're not doing this already, why are you even here The Oldest Man posted:My apartment building just installed snitchcams in the entire complex that will shout at you and then call the cops Guarantee it's because it's cheaper than hiring a doorman.
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Jan 23, 2021 18:25
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