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Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!

Ash Crimson posted:

you need to smoke a bong or something mate

Given what he said about booze, getting super high would crush him under all those repressed terrors that escape and get right in your face for a few hours.

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sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
:britain:
https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1353594767028981763?s=20

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol cool we've now got our own lincoln project but instead of tweets and videos to grift on and upset the president its just full racism for the red wall

red wall being a term coined in 2019 lol

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
I havn't smoked weed since the 10th of January and its nice to have had a normal diet for 2 weeks

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

It does feel a bit odd sometimes given that everyone else in the thread seems to be very into chemical alterations. Not having a reference point I don't know if that's just me being weird or whether the thread is more high than average.

I drink a little but when I do it's just a dram of whisky or a glass of wine if my parents are having one & I'm at theirs for dinner etc or maybe a couple pints of cider if it's a pleasant summer evening. I have had to accept that there's an unreasonably high chance that when I get properly drunk I do things to hurt myself and yeah, had quite enough of that. So I think the last time I got properly ratarsed was the 2017 general election night. It wasn't fun & after that I just decided I needed to accept my limits & stay within them. Otherwise the extent of my mind altering substances is Sertraline, which is poo poo & no fun but at least means I want to die a lot less. So you're not totally alone.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Jose posted:

red wall being a term coined in 2019 lol

???

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

forkboy84 posted:

I drink a little but when I do it's just a dram of whisky or a glass of wine if my parents are having one & I'm at theirs for dinner etc or maybe a couple pints of cider if it's a pleasant summer evening. I have had to accept that there's an unreasonably high chance that when I get properly drunk I do things to hurt myself and yeah, had quite enough of that. So I think the last time I got properly ratarsed was the 2017 general election night. It wasn't fun & after that I just decided I needed to accept my limits & stay within them. Otherwise the extent of my mind altering substances is Sertraline, which is poo poo & no fun but at least means I want to die a lot less. So you're not totally alone.

just get yourself a benzo addiction what can go wrong

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Surprise pianos.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

The UK rate of hospital admissions because of alcohol was higher than among users of any other drug cited in the report apart from heroin, and consumption of alcohol was much more widespread, with 94% of people in UK saying they had drunk alcohol in the last year, compared with 2.3% who had used heroin.

Glad they made that point clear.

/edit: Ireland is not one of the 25 nations included in the survey. That seems like gross negligence.

peanut- fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jan 25, 2021

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

forkboy84 posted:

I drink a little but when I do it's just a dram of whisky or a glass of wine if my parents are having one & I'm at theirs for dinner etc or maybe a couple pints of cider if it's a pleasant summer evening. I have had to accept that there's an unreasonably high chance that when I get properly drunk I do things to hurt myself and yeah, had quite enough of that. So I think the last time I got properly ratarsed was the 2017 general election night. It wasn't fun & after that I just decided I needed to accept my limits & stay within them. Otherwise the extent of my mind altering substances is Sertraline, which is poo poo & no fun but at least means I want to die a lot less. So you're not totally alone.

For the 2019 exit polls I had a bottle of nice champagne and a bottle of rotgut whisky depending on how they turned out.

I basjcally deleted my memories from abut 10.10pm til lunchtime the next day. Good choice well made I feel.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

It does feel a bit odd sometimes given that everyone else in the thread seems to be very into chemical alterations. Not having a reference point I don't know if that's just me being weird or whether the thread is more high than average.

I had a bit of puff in my early 20s (and I mean a bit - a couple of pulls at parties - but cannabis did absolutely nothing for me, alcohol was far more reliable).

I gave up smoking when I was 12 - I was a year ahead of myself at school - went to secondary school direct from Year 5 in the new money - and all my friends were older.
Every time I tried to smoke I used to have an asthma attack so after about 10 cigs over a few months I gave it up as a bad job. A friend and I tried again in my early 30s (I had some idea that people who smoked were thin therefore to get and stay thin I should learn to love tobacco) but again, brutal coughing attacks, the foul taste, my friend and I would get a pack of 10 cigs in the pub, not inhale, just pull a face at the unpleasantness of it and say 'how the heck can anyone get addicted to this' over and over again.

I drank quite heavily in my 20s for a while- a particularly unpleasant job for a year had me knocking back 2 bottles of Baileys on 2 evenings a week just to get through - but in 1988 after going to work 4 mornings in a row with a wretched hangover and I hadn't actually been out anywhere (I shared a flat with 7 people and one of the guys used to go to the off-licence every night and bring back loads of booze), and with an elderly (ha, my age now) secretary at work who used to set up a bar every Friday afternoon in her boss's office (he had to go to a meeting (genuinely) every Friday afternoon with the top brass) who took it as a personal insult if you didn't drink, my only option was a year teetotal which the secretary accepted as legitimate reason not to drink. I did the year apart from one evening in the Intrepid Fox where I asked for the non-alcohol lager which was kept right next to the 9% deliriums tremums and the barlord gave me a bottle of that by mistake - and while plenty of people were telling me how easy it would be - not that they were doing it themselves! - I discovered how ubiquitous booze was in 1980s Britain!

Anyway, in the early-mid 2000s with the regular Thursday night after work booze ups (and if you didn't go you were Not A Team Player) where I would generally have 3 pints of lager, I started to feel very unwell and would arrive at Walthamstow tube station, heart racing, blood thumping round my veins in a very unpleasant manner, barely be able to make it to the top and have to sit for 10-15 minutes before the final few minutes walk home I finally put 2+2 together, realized alcohol was the culprit, and quit alcohol altogether. Just before Xmas last year (after over 15 years) I dipped my toe in the alcohol water again with a couple of liqueur chocolates and a tub of brandy cream and didn't suffer any ill effects, maybe I might venture into a little baileys if I can find anywhere that sells miniatures - and see if booze undiluted with food can be managed.


TL:DR - not all of us

What I don't get is why modern teenagers still seem to think it makes them look big to smoke cigs when every adult I know who smokes wishes they didn't. When the schools were open, there were great gangs of them under the nearby underpass puffing away, not even vaping, and there's usually a gaggle of them round the entrance to Home Bargains puffing away.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jan 25, 2021

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I kinda want to try that redwall cookbook they put out some time ago. Brian Jacques is a man who knows what he wants and what he wants is lots of food.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
i have done everything except heroin, crack cocaine, extremely esoteric pharmas and mushrooms, weirdly. i don't understand how anyone can face life totally sober.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




I don't want to get all hippie about it, but I genuinely think everyone should do psychedelics at some point. It lets you view yourself from an external perspective and reevaluate what's important - I see it as kind of an MOT for my head.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

It does feel a bit odd sometimes given that everyone else in the thread seems to be very into chemical alterations. Not having a reference point I don't know if that's just me being weird or whether the thread is more high than average.
If it helps I also avoid drugs, though not through any ethical stance. My body is poo poo at processing toxins (even loving caffeine) and I have an incredibly addictive personality, I'm afraid of what I'd become if I indulged.

Plus I don't understand how the dark web works, and if I tried the traditional route I'd probably end up being sold a bag of oregano, killed under suspicion of being cop, cuckooed, or some hideous combination of the three.


We regret to inform you that we think the mice are racist.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jan 25, 2021

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Necrothatcher posted:

I don't want to get all hippie about it, but I genuinely think everyone should do psychedelics at some point. It lets you view yourself from an external perspective and reevaluate what's important - I see it as kind of an MOT for my head.

This is exactly how I view LSD. A big duster to clear out the cobwebs in your head and give your mind a spitshine. It always makes me fall back in love with the music of words and conversation for some reason too which is nice. One thing all potential users of psychedelics should note is that although the visuals are the most commonly talked about aspect, they're imo probably the least important and strange. What you see pales in comparison to what you feel and how your mind reconfigures to work in a way that you've never before experienced. I'd compare it to installing a totally new operating system on the hardware that is your brain.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What I don't get is why modern teenagers still seem to think it makes them look big to smoke cigs when every adult I know who smokes wishes they didn't. When the schools were open, there were great gangs of them under the nearby underpass puffing away, not even vaping, and there's usually a gaggle of them round the entrance to Home Bargains puffing away.

Smoking (and alcohol) remains that thing that when you are under 18 it is a Bad Thing and everyone tells you Don't Do This, but it's relatively easily accessible and once you have it there's very little consequences to get caught (you don't get arrested or fined for doing), so it's a fairly easy bit of teenage rebellion. It's not necessarily the "cool thing" to do anymore because we've pretty much banned celebrating smoking, but it's still there as an accessible vice.

The problem of course is that if you start young you get addicted and carry it on to your later life.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Jakabite posted:

This is exactly how I view LSD. A big duster to clear out the cobwebs in your head and give your mind a spitshine. It always makes me fall back in love with the music of words and conversation for some reason too which is nice. One thing all potential users of psychedelics should note is that although the visuals are the most commonly talked about aspect, they're imo probably the least important and strange. What you see pales in comparison to what you feel and how your mind reconfigures to work in a way that you've never before experienced. I'd compare it to installing a totally new operating system on the hardware that is your brain.

lol see all my experiences are the exact opposite and this comes off as naval gazing to me

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

EvilHawk posted:

Smoking (and alcohol) remains that thing that when you are under 18 it is a Bad Thing and everyone tells you Don't Do This, but it's relatively easily accessible and once you have it there's very little consequences to get caught (you don't get arrested or fined for doing), so it's a fairly easy bit of teenage rebellion. It's not necessarily the "cool thing" to do anymore because we've pretty much banned celebrating smoking, but it's still there as an accessible vice.

The problem of course is that if you start young you get addicted and carry it on to your later life.

When I grew up I could buy as many creme eggs as I wanted and eat them all and nobody could stop me.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
FB just suggested a new friend for me: David Miliband..... trying to figure out why, the last public post on his FB is from 2011 and involves the Egyptian revolution, about the only thing I can think. Despite he has apparently over 3200 friends we have none in common.

Actually FB has suggested a couple of people for me lately who I actually know (they're relatives) and I know they thought they had deleted their accounts, but probably made the mistake of 'deactivating' instead of 'deleting' and some activity elsewhere on the internet that links to FB has livened them up again. (I let both parties know!)

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

When I grew up I could buy as many creme eggs as I wanted and eat them all and nobody could stop me.

No-one has ever looked cool while eating a Creme Egg though

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


OwlFancier posted:

I kinda want to try that redwall cookbook they put out some time ago. Brian Jacques is a man who knows what he wants and what he wants is lots of food.

All veggie as well, I think.

Brian Jaques foodwriting was immense.

Too many poems though. And race essentialism.

Fun series though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

peanut- posted:

No-one has ever looked cool while eating a Creme Egg though

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Jose posted:

lol see all my experiences are the exact opposite and this comes off as naval gazing to me

The first time I did acid it was visually very trippy, but I also decided to do it alone so ended up lying in bed having some funny introspections. After years of therapy, medication and other stuff, 2 good tabs of acid and a pot of tea worked the best.

MDMA was also good for socialising and learning how to be less introverted, though I did too much and now I can't even think about the taste of it without gagging.

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

Jose posted:

lol see all my experiences are the exact opposite and this comes off as naval gazing to me

Same. If you have sad brains in any way psychedelics can make it worse to a scary degree.

Fumble
Sep 4, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 16 days!
What is sober anyway? I have been taking ssri's and sodium valproate for so long now, sober is a dark and crazy place.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

When I grew up I could buy as many creme eggs as I wanted and eat them all and nobody could stop me.
i bought a box of 10 yesterday only to find half of them were caramel eggs :negative:

JollyBoyJohn
Feb 13, 2019

For Real!
I've never done mushrooms or LSD but I have done salvia and its loving terrifying. Never again

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Necrothatcher posted:

I don't want to get all hippie about it, but I genuinely think everyone should do psychedelics at some point. It lets you view yourself from an external perspective and reevaluate what's important - I see it as kind of an MOT for my head.

Given the number of clients I have represented who with substance abuse problems, or mental health issues or who have had adverse reactions when they combined alcohol with certain medications, or clients who have used substances and been unable to look after their children, or clients who have taken substances then been caught drug driving because their vulnerable parent had to be brought to hospital, the conclusion I have come to is not everyone can do psychedelics.
There is always going to be a percentage of the population who will not be able to use them. And the more mainstream they become, the more of a tease it will be for the people who can't use it.

Sort of like how bad our alcohol promoting culture is for people who are alcoholics trying to stay sober.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Naval gazing is what SMGT does.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Jose posted:

lol see all my experiences are the exact opposite and this comes off as naval gazing to me

Taking a couple tabs and going down to the docks to watch the ships come in does sound interesting

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

Cross postin'


Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
.nm you fixed it

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.




I see the Child Catcher branched out.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Bobby Deluxe posted:

i bought a box of 10 yesterday only to find half of them were caramel eggs :negative:

Send them to me, they are far superior

Oh wait, Brexit. Foiled again!

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
loooolllyyyyy paaaawwwwwwwps

cigareeeeeeetteeeeeeeeeeeeees

delicious taaaar and niccooooteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Cigarettes are popular with teens because they are awesome and make you look cool as gently caress.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Failed Imagineer posted:

Taking a couple tabs and going down to the docks to watch the ships come in does sound interesting

lol poo poo

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/jonronson/status/1353333043512160257?s=19

Fuckkkk I am confused and excited, high chance of this series mindfucking me enough that I'll need an LSD reboot

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