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yes i know gnolls are hyenas which are closer to cats than dogs but everoyne plays them like dogs
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The furries have enough ground already
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Jan 25, 2021 01:45
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Countblanc posted:yes i know gnolls are hyenas which are closer to cats than dogs but everoyne plays them like dogs Much closer to mongooses and the like, but we're quibbling at this point. Edit : Leperflesh, did you give me a "BUTTS" redtext? Because that is very funny. butts Somebody fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Jan 25, 2021 01:51
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I really hope that as part of the de-evilifying of D&D races they make gnolls cool again I loving love hyenas
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Jan 25, 2021 02:13
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Blockhouse posted:I really hope that as part of the de-evilifying of D&D races they make gnolls cool again I loving love hyenas If you haven't at least glanced at how they're treated in Spire, you really should. butts
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Blockhouse posted:I really hope that as part of the de-evilifying of D&D races they make gnolls cool again I loving love hyenas I think removing inherent morality/alignment from D&D races is good but Hyenas are the shitheads of the Savannas.
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Jan 25, 2021 02:30
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Plutonis posted:I think removing inherent morality/alignment from D&D races is good but Hyenas are the shitheads of the Savannas. They're actually a pretty loving and affectionate species that gets a bad rap for no reason. They're better than lions at least. Also +5 points for matriarchy.
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Jan 25, 2021 02:40
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Xiahou Dun posted:If you haven't at least glanced at how they're treated in Spire, you really should. Heart even expands every race* we've seen in Spire to be playable, and specifically gives 0 ancestral stats. Heart also makes it clear a lot of the bad stuff you hear about the races in Spire is probably just imperial propaganda to boot. *technically not gutterkin, if you specifically wanted to classify those mutants as a fully seperate race and not incredibly deformed members of other ancestry. Since there's no stats attached to your ancestry though, you're free to play as anything.
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Hyenas got an undeserved reputation as evil scavengers because Victorian naturalists couldn't see in the dark. When Europeans were first learning about African ecology, they used to go out at or before first light because they knew lots of animals are crepuscular, and they wanted to observe things during the dawn activity period. When the sun rose, the picture they saw quite often was a pride of lions around a kill, and hyenas circling. They drew the conclusion (perfectly reasonable, I suppose) that the lions, being mighty hunters, had killed the prey and the hyenas were waiting for the lions to get done so they could scavenge the lions' kill. Now that we have cameras that can record at night, what we observe is that hyenas actually kill about 95% of the prey they consume, and rarely steal from lions unless they have a significant advantage of numbers. Lions, being bigger, will bully hyenas away from their own kills, leaving the hyenas to wait and producing the scene that fooled Lord Archibald Toffington-Smythe in the 1850s. https://ideas.ted.com/everything-you-know-about-hyenas-is-wrong-these-animals-are-fierce-social-and-incredibly-smart/
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Hyenas got an undeserved reputation as evil scavengers because Victorian naturalists couldn't see in the dark. Huh, TIL!
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Yeah it's one of those weird culturally-ingrown things but hyenas are actually super cool.
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who could hate these weird cat sausages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GXt_fvNLmY
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I made the mistake of calling KDM borderline porn on facebook and touched a nerve
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Lord Archibald Toffington-Smythe
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Yawgmoth posted:The most British name ever. I think they might have made it up for comedic effect. But who can tell with them drat tea-sodden football hooligans.
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Len posted:I made the mistake of calling KDM borderline porn on facebook and touched a nerve KDM? Key delivery messages?
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Maxwell Lord posted:KDM? Key delivery messages? Kingdom Death: Monster, a boardgame with incredibly high quality super detailed miniatures. The only reason I wouldn’t call it borderline porn is because they sell literal porn expansions and options tagged as “pin-ups”, which are frequently explicit instead of the soft core meaning of that name.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I think they might have made it up for comedic effect. But who can tell with them drat tea-sodden football hooligans. i searched a few variations of the name + hyenas and yeah, it looks like it was a joke i still had to check, though. and there are real life lords with far more ridiculous names, i just couldn't find any related to the study of hyenas
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Yes, that was a joke about the type of people who were passing themselves off as "naturalists" in Africa at the height of the British Empire. Sorry for the confusion.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Yes, that was a joke about the type of people who were passing themselves off as "naturalists" in Africa at the height of the British Empire. Sorry for the confusion. It was a pretty good joke, though. And since this ain't SAL I think you're golden. I laughed at least.
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Arivia posted:Kingdom Death: Monster, a boardgame with incredibly high quality super detailed miniatures. What's weird is it's not part of the game -from what I can gather. My main exposure to kingdom death was SA pointing out all the titty miniatures and rape demons. So I was a bit surprised when a non-creep friend mentioned playing and liking it with other friends and had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned rape demons and incredibly sexualized stuff. He'd only seen it as darkest dungeon or demon souls-esque boardgame. But clearly when you go to the website like 90% of what they're selling are porn minis. The porn minis don't even seem for the most part have rules or mechanical support like they were actual new units. It's just like if you showed up to magic night with friends and your deck was entirely proxies with hentai art -except WotC sold you those proxies as official licensed products.
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At least Victorian naturalists were basing on their own observations. For a long time European anthropologists would base their work on the travel diaries of administrators and colonialists. Imagine the theories you'd have about American culture based on second-hand accounts of homecoming games.
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Tibalt posted:At least Victorian naturalists were basing on their own observations. For a long time European anthropologists would base their work on the travel diaries of administrators and colonialists. Or based on American media?
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one of the most interesting picture books I ever read as a wee sprout was an observation of then-modern America written as if it were an archaeological report. I forget who wrote/illustrated it (my gut says Chris Van Allsberg but I'm not sure) or what the title was, but some of the stuff that stood out was a picture of neon signs like you'd see getting off a highway and speculation as to their religious function. Cool stuff, opened my eye to how many assumptions we make writing about the past. e: google detective work suggests it was Motel of the Mysteries by David Macaulay. 
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A book written from a post-post-apocalyptic perspective? Sure. The imperial system outliving the metric one? Sorry, I can't suspend my desbelief that much. 
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Xiahou Dun posted:Much closer to mongooses and the like, but we're quibbling at this point. the funny part is it took you two days to notice 
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Leperflesh posted:the funny part is it took you two days to notice butts butts butts. I approve and its very funny. Well done. butts
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Azran posted:I will never understand how D&D, being the kitchen-sink of ideas and concepts that it is, has never bothered making an anthropomorphic canine race ever since the Lupin from like 2e. They stuck them in the generic "You are a furry" race for 4e. https://dnd4.fandom.com/wiki/Hengeyokai
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Arivia posted:Kingdom Death: Monster, a boardgame with incredibly high quality super detailed miniatures. A miniature with a butt BUT ALSO tits (Also: imagine a robot BUT ALSO a person)
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Tibalt posted:At least Victorian naturalists were basing on their own observations. For a long time European anthropologists would base their work on the travel diaries of administrators and colonialists. Darwin was a Victorian naturalist and he did a pretty good job. The study of biology advanced a lot during that time, even with the obvious constraints (the error regarding hyenas is an honest one, studying at night in an era before night-vision equipment would have them wielding lanterns and spooking every animal away from observation range)
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Plutonis posted:Darwin was a Victorian naturalist and he did a pretty good job. The study of biology advanced a lot during that time, even with the obvious constraints (the error regarding hyenas is an honest one, studying at night in an era before night-vision equipment would have them wielding lanterns and spooking every animal away from observation range) True, but there was also an awful lot of "shoot everything that moves and send the hide back to the eggheads in Ol' Blighty to figure out, huzzah I'm a naturalist!" that I was poking fun at originally.
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Coolness Averted posted:What's weird is it's not part of the game -from what I can gather. My main exposure to kingdom death was SA pointing out all the titty miniatures and rape demons. So I was a bit surprised when a non-creep friend mentioned playing and liking it with other friends and had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned rape demons and incredibly sexualized stuff. Isn't the dicklion in the core set? (Let's be honest here, KDM has a ton of problems outside the weirdly porn-y art, like the fact that it's a long-rear end campaign game with a "if all your characters die start the whole thing over" factor.)
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Evil Mastermind posted:Isn't the dicklion in the core set? Not sure, but I think that's more of a 'body horror' thing, if I recall correctly the base adventurers also start nude, but it's easily handwaved as non-sexual. Of course, "oh no the nudity is non-sexual, you prude" is a weird defense when they also sell a rape demon addon with pregnant slaves, or cheesecake and porn replacement models and have more of those than the "Hey wouldn't it be cool if you could buy a version of ypur favorite character in the armor made from the bosses?" The characters are more of a pool of settlement characters than 'your character' I think. Much like in Darkest Dungeon, they don't just die they also get traumas and mutilated in ways that can render them worthless for combat or even for the settlement roles. These can happen from random events too. I think losing characters puts you more at risk of a failure cascade or defeat spiral than a full game over. Like I said I haven't played it, so I don't know how much of it is "You defeated the dicklion, so now have access to dicklion chainmail forever," or "The game isn't technically over, your level 0 characters need to go kill the 3 bosses you already killed to get the gear to win the game" I don't understand it either, but some people play survival videogames where you also have to manage not making GBS threads or pissing yourself to death. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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"You can get soft locked in an unwinnable state, forcing you to start over and grind through the tedious early game again" was a common complaint about the base game. Supposedly this has been fixed in updates and expansions, which add more encounters to mix up the low level game, and also the option of starting at a later stage in order to skip to the midgame content. But that's just what I've absorbed through osmosis, I also have never played it.
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Len posted:I made the mistake of calling KDM borderline porn on facebook and touched a nerve hell yeah, porn!!!!!
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New thread announcement - Dice Throne/Dice Throne Adventures! It can be found here
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dwarf74 posted:New thread announcement - Dice Throne/Dice Throne Adventures! Thank you!
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Doesn't KDM also have a chart where if you roll bad enough your character gets a trait for being a poop eater?
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Len posted:Doesn't KDM also have a chart where if you roll bad enough your character gets a trait for being a poop eater? Probably. I've only read a partial pdf of the rulebook but I remember a lot of the events having a "if you roll a 1 you die" vibe.
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Azran posted:I will never understand how D&D, being the kitchen-sink of ideas and concepts that it is, has never bothered making an anthropomorphic canine race ever since the Lupin from like 2e. I'm getting into the Palladium Fantasy setting, and one thing I like about it are the Wolfen, your basic anthropomorphic dog, kind of fit the "human role" that's in bog standard FRPG settings. They are the species with the young, imperialist but multi-cultural/multi-species civilized empire, who differ from human kingdoms because the Wolfen method of conquering is either to assimilate by force or treaty, whereas humans go in, kill everyone, take everything, and gently caress off back home. The humans have the usual big decadent empire with slaves and whatnot thing going in comparison. It's one of the more clever parts of the setting to not make anthros either furry humans, humanity's pals, or evil enemies, but that they are the primary rivals of human nations, and are actually somewhat better, morally.
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