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Antonymous posted:ACAB bro
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Jan 24, 2021 21:48
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Those NYT articles are loving clickbaits. Well they got me read one of them so they won. China said they will produce 600 mil covid vaccine shots this year and 1 billion next year. So that should be enough to cover the cities and close BRI buddies this year and the rest of China next year.
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Jan 24, 2021 21:51
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i still find it surreal seeing videos from china where cops and SWAT team members storm a shopping mall food court with guns and then arrange themselves in neat little rows and begin singing. The average Chinese citizen lives in constant fear that their local police department will barge into their home to put on an impromptu performance of Oklahoma!
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Jan 25, 2021 01:35
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another fun / terrifying part is how the cop at 1:15 is "hiding" in a bath and body works and then appears suddenly. oh, where did you come from? i was just shopping for some fragrant soaps
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Jan 25, 2021 05:11
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indigi posted:why not the "optics"
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Jan 25, 2021 05:14
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1353499107571228672?s=19 This will be interesting to watch. I had forgotten about the AIIB.
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Jan 25, 2021 07:13
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that has been the trajectory for over a decade now and the US still has the option of pointing boats with guns at these south east asian countries if they were serious about doing anything to stop it
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Jan 25, 2021 09:33
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Those Pacific islands are actually Australia's backyard. And you can figure out the reason.
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Jan 25, 2021 10:03
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Putin today in one of his "public" q&as said it wasnt his palace, what was the direct evidence navalny presented that it was?
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Jan 25, 2021 14:02
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folks I just had an epiphany I've noticed over the last year or so that the amount of anti-China vitriol permeating the culture has increased significantly well outside the bounds of normal right wing sinopsychos (tm). What if this surge is a direct reaction to China proving that their model of governance was an unmitigated and clear success in the handling of a national-scale crisis like a novel pandemic?
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Jan 25, 2021 16:59
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zegermans posted:folks I just had an epiphany China’s GDP is about the surpass the United States in a few years, even faster since China stomped out COVID and the US engulfed themselves with it. Post-American world is upon us. Of course right-wingers are going to freak the gently caress out. They will blame Joe Biden for letting it happen when really it’s been a work in progress for the past 20 years.
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Jan 25, 2021 17:51
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What scares me is this period is the most ripe for conflict, a bi-polar world with one ascendant power and one descedant or stagnating power basically always ends in conflict
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Jan 25, 2021 18:07
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https://twitter.com/IllumineCalais/status/1353699653045239808
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Jan 25, 2021 19:36
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https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1353637552268447745 Lmao I see the king is still at it.
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Jan 25, 2021 19:38
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Vasukhani posted:What scares me is this period is the most ripe for conflict, a bi-polar world with one ascendant power and one descedant or stagnating power basically always ends in conflict it's like some sort of trap. I think Thucydides wrote about this?
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Jan 25, 2021 19:55
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AnimeIsTrash posted:https://twitter.com/chenweihua/status/1353637552268447745 this guy is china's most fearsome propaganda weapon
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Jan 25, 2021 19:59
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Atrocious Joe posted:it's like some sort of trap. I think Thucydides wrote about this? https://www.belfercenter.org/thucydides-trap/case-file #16 is a bit my agreement with this is the real horseshoe theory.
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Jan 25, 2021 20:30
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https://twitter.com/asiatimesonline/status/1353613829184380928?s=19
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Jan 25, 2021 20:33
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Jan 25, 2021 20:44
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Vasukhani posted:What scares me is this period is the most ripe for conflict, a bi-polar world with one ascendant power and one descedant or stagnating power basically always ends in conflict Admittedly the 1950s were when the geopolitical competition of the Cold War was the highest and really the detente period only ended after the Cuban Missile crisis, but also at the same time the Soviet Union was still a considerably weaker power than the US in economic terms. This time around, China has the economic base the Soviet Union never had and we are now in new territory.
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Jan 25, 2021 20:53
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well, I hope china wins. good luck to all players
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Jan 25, 2021 22:08
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personally I hope I don't die in nuclear hellfire but that's just me
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Jan 25, 2021 22:13
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the USA has a massive amount of built in soft power though, both from its headstart and english being the interational language of business, trade, plus hollywood and social media and american tech. the sheer reach + slickness of american propaganda can't be matched atm
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Jan 25, 2021 22:16
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I am ok with nuclear hellfire if it's faster and less painful than the alternative that will be provided in the future.
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Jan 25, 2021 22:16
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mila kunis posted:the USA has a massive amount of built in soft power though, both from its headstart and english being the interational language of business, trade, plus hollywood and social media and american tech. the sheer reach + slickness of american propaganda can't be matched atm trump helped do some serious damage to all of that though lol
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Jan 25, 2021 22:32
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Spergin Morlock posted:trump helped do some serious damage to all of that though lol Chinese people like Americans & America so much more than Americans like Chinese people or China. The softpower is very real and trump didn't do poo poo. some middle class Chinese LIKE trump for disciplining the party b/c the party is their most immediate existential threat - trump appeals to chuds globally if anything Americans like putin more than merkel - why? because putin is in the news and is a big strong man leading a powerful country through his personality and that's what 90% of people know about foreign leaders. Biden will not have this effect. most like putin more than merkel because they never heard of merkel Antonymous has issued a correction as of 22:46 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Jan 25, 2021 22:43
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mila kunis posted:the USA has a massive amount of built in soft power though, both from its headstart and english being the interational language of business, trade, plus hollywood and social media and american tech. the sheer reach + slickness of american propaganda can't be matched atm I wonder how much of that is actually real though when tested, and the way it is playing out...some of that advantage may be pretty hollow. Antonymous posted:Chinese people like Americans & America so much more than Americans like Chinese people or China. The softpower is very real and trump didn't do poo poo. some middle class Chinese LIKE trump for disciplining the party b/c the party is their most immediate existential threat - trump appeals to chuds globally People like Americans and the "concept" of America but usually when the US government itself comes up the opinions change pretty radically. Just because people watch the Avengers doesn't mean they are suddenly going to be in the tank for regime change. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 22:47 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Jan 25, 2021 22:44
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mila kunis posted:the USA has a massive amount of built in soft power though, both from its headstart and english being the interational language of business, trade, plus hollywood and social media and american tech. the sheer reach + slickness of american propaganda can't be matched atm yeah but hollywood films arent as good as they used to be due to accumulation of the media sphere by two megacorporations
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Jan 25, 2021 22:45
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Spergin Morlock posted:trump helped do some serious damage to all of that though lol Pfff you wish, Bush was already doing it back in 2000. Trump just pissed of the libs.
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Jan 25, 2021 22:55
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Ardennes posted:Admittedly the 1950s were when the geopolitical competition of the Cold War was the highest and really the detente period only ended after the Cuban Missile crisis, but also at the same time the Soviet Union was still a considerably weaker power than the US in economic terms. So we'll be on the losing side of a Franco-Prussian war redux when Sun King Baron Trump declares war on Super China in 2040. Hopefully I can pick up Mandarin before then lol
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Jan 25, 2021 23:19
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Spergin Morlock posted:trump helped do some serious damage to all of that though lol Yup https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-crisis-of-american-power-how-europeans-see-bidens-america/  
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Jan 25, 2021 23:46
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Atrocious Joe posted:it's like some sort of trap. I think Thucydides wrote about this? this makes no sense athens was a democracy exacting tribute from client states to fight against sparta sponsoring aligned oligarchies in this case the US is both the democracy with the client states and the one sponsoring aligned oligarchies the only real thucydides trap here is a US falling into civil war
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Jan 26, 2021 00:31
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america has a head start but is also stagnant and declining whereas china is still booming
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Jan 26, 2021 00:33
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americas last chance for the next decade or two to reverse its descent into russia style stagnation went away when the political class locked out bernie. the political and business classes are fully committed to america's managed decline
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Jan 26, 2021 00:35
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Vasukhani posted:Yup I hate that the white liberal mindset is 'oh no what if the white people in europe don't think USA is #1?? thanks for reminding me edit: seriously who gives a gently caress what euros think in some poll about china's ascendence. what does it have to do with trump even. what does it have to do with US soft power. totally useless. all it tells you is the narrative that the euro media feeds its citizens that they parrot back to some poll. Antonymous has issued a correction as of 00:39 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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Jan 26, 2021 00:36
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shout out to the Danes who believe the US is declining but still supports it against China.
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Jan 26, 2021 00:38
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One criticism of Thucydides's trap is that vast majority of Graham Allison's samples are from the Western/Colonial history. He has not looked into the Chinese history which had many examples of Southern Chinese dynasty dealing with northern neighbors without committing to all-out war to suppress the nomadic power. The Chinese states usually use coercion, marriage, and alliance systems to manage the northern powers. When you think about it, this strategy make a lot more sense for countries that share huge land borders together. The past colonial powers usually had no land border to worry about outside of Spain.
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Jan 26, 2021 01:12
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Antonymous posted:I hate that the white liberal mindset is 'oh no what if the white people in europe don't think USA is #1?? thanks for reminding me Because the US loves the notion of being "multi-lateral" Those numbers shifted dramatically in 2016. I think it's less about white ppl, though that obvs is an influence to how americans think about the world, and more that half of America's Army is Europe. It's a bit like asking in 350 AD "why does anyone care what the Dacians think of Rome"
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Jan 26, 2021 01:13
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Those surveyes should stop surveying those tiny European countries that shouldn't be countries on their own and start surveying Brazil and Indonesia.
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Jan 26, 2021 01:18
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stephenthinkpad posted:Those surveyes should stop surveying those tiny European countries that shouldn't be countries on their own and start surveying Brazil and Indonesia. Those countries are literally American satrapies that do not have an independent foreign policy, unlike brazil and indonesia
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Jan 26, 2021 01:22
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