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3D Megadoodoo posted:I'm still Say what you want about national socialism, at least it's a strong aesthetic. Röhm is a bit on the chubby side though. An eye-patch would turn him into Captain Blackbeard more than a Prussian panzer commander. For those that are confused about the fencing scar thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dueling_scar German/Austrian upper class thing.
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E-Tank posted:Every single pilot is in on the conspiracy. If you hire one they will simply fly you around in circles to give the illusion that you're going around the world. Yes, they actually believe this. You cannot get a pilots license without swearing to secrecy that the world is flat. And they enforce this. . . *somehow*. So uh, basically this conspiracy is completely dependent on the TRUTH-KNOWERS just being too lazy to learn to fly themselves?
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Tarnop posted:Why learn to fly when you would have to look at the world through cockpit glass made by some globebrain. You still have to wear goggles made by the same globebrains.
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Jan 26, 2021 09:36
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I've browsed /pol/ a few times today to see what the reaction to Trump's "office of the former president" announcement has been and it's strange, there's not much Trump content at all. Ctrl+F for Trump usually yields only a few hits on the front page, and usually just in random replies to a non-Trump related thread. Don't get me wrong, the forum is still as toxic as ever, but it's just general racist, LGBT-phobic, culture wars type stuff. Basically the same as it was during Obama's second term, before the 2015 primaries even kicked off. I think /pol/ is a good weathervane of the GOP, and at this rate it looks like Trump is going to turn into another Dubya: mocked by the far right for being an ineffectual dunce who surrounded themselves with "undesirables". Trump has so far remained silent after leaving office (probably the most presidential thing he's done). If he leaves his base out in the cold for the next few weeks, I can see them turning hard on him.
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Here's a CEO and he paid Epstein millions. He got out of jail after "solicitation of a minor" https://twitter.com/andrewrsorkin/status/1353870078064926732?s=19
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Had some woman on twitter reply to a comment I made about Trump being still allowed to refer to himself as "President Trump" (He can, so can Obama, Bush, etc, apparently you hold onto the tiele) that "Oh its like Biden calling himself President elect when he isnt even president:. She's either the last Q to get the memo, or the Qs have decided that its all a hologram or whever loving nuttiness they've come up with this week.
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duck monster posted:Had some woman on twitter reply to a comment I made about Trump being still allowed to refer to himself as "President Trump" (He can, so can Obama, Bush, etc, apparently you hold onto the tiele) that "Oh its like Biden calling himself President elect when he isnt even president:. She's either the last Q to get the memo, or the Qs have decided that its all a hologram or whever loving nuttiness they've come up with this week. basically all you have to do is point at something, scream "HOW DARE THEY??" and a million chuds will post in anger before the first fact check can be denounced as "fake news". it's loving disgusting and loving trump has made me lose so much faith in humanity and respect for a lot of people
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RadicalTranslation posted:QAnon stuff has been spreading to Canada in the form of anti-vax + anti-lockdown protests but I haven't seen anything yet with notions of a 'deep state'. I wonder if there is an analogous movement here I'm just not familiar with? Maybe someone has some links? Canada definitely has Q crackpots but as far as I know there’s no Deep State conspiracy here yet. My belief is that the ‘Deep State’ is just a coping mechanism for the right. Since the liberals are in power here there is no need to blame the deep state for anything because the state itself is the target of their hatred. If the conservatives were in power and people noticed that their lives still sucked and they weren’t getting ahead then it must be the deep state holding things back to sabotage the government. The Q movement in Canada is largely intertwined with the anti mask/anti lockdown crowd. Every time I see pictures of their rallies there’s always a few Q signs in there.
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i like the giant tree theory because there's something quite poignant about it. it is a spiritual truth, because earth *is* heartbreakingly diminished, and the natural world has been grievously harmed and pillaged.
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DarkCrawler posted:So uh, basically this conspiracy is completely dependent on the TRUTH-KNOWERS just being too lazy to learn to fly themselves? No they literally believe every pilot is in on it. https://wiki.tfes.org/Aviation quote:Aviation, or air transport, refers to the activities surrounding mechanical flight and the aircraft industry. Discussion on this topic revolves around the assertion that aircraft instrumentation are built to assume, and pilots are taught to fly, over a flat, non-rotating earth. quote:One can of course believe anything one likes as long as the consequences of that belief are trivial, but when survival depends on belief, then it matters that beliefs correspond to manifest reality. We therefore teach navigators that the stars are fixed to the celestial sphere, which is centered on a fixed earth and around which it rotates in accordance with laws clearly deducible from common sense observation. The Sun and the Moon move across the inner surface of this sphere and hence perforce go around the earth. This means, that students of navigation must unlearn a lot of the confused dogma they learned in school. Most of them find this remarkably easy, because dogma is as it may be, but the real world is as we perceive it to be. Tldr every pilot is taught to unlearn that the world is round and instead that the earth is flat. Yet, somehow, they are kept in line to keep the conspiracy going. One of their proofs is from a physics homework problem that says “assume the earth were flat.”
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Boris Galerkin posted:
Hmm but did it say “assume the earth were flat.  ”?
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gh0stpinballa posted:i like the giant tree theory because there's something quite poignant about it. it is a spiritual truth, because earth *is* heartbreakingly diminished, and the natural world has been grievously harmed and pillaged. That's not what they care about though. If they loved nature, they wouldn't support the people poisoning the whole of it. They care about being "special beings" that a higher power "chose". It's all the same sickness in varying packaging.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Tldr every pilot is taught to unlearn that the world is round and instead that the earth is flat. Yet, somehow, they are kept in line to keep the conspiracy going. 
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Ola posted:Hmm but did it say “assume the earth were flat. Wait a minute I’ve got text books that say friction can be neglected. Someone needs to look into Big Brake. What ARE they doing? Also this was apparently a thing lol. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/otilliasteadman/mad-mike-hughes-rocket-death-flat-earth quote:A Daredevil Flat-Earther Died After Attempting To Launch Himself 5,000 Feet With A Homemade Rocket Also quote:A previous attempt to reach the 5,000-foot mark had been thwarted due to a faulty heater purchased on Craigslist, according to Space.com.
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How do they cope with the limits of up? A plane can go up but presumably only so far. If there's a shell there, what's outside the shell? It brings the finite universe paradox really close to home, quite literally.
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Ola posted:How do they cope with the limits of up? A plane can go up but presumably only so far. If there's a shell there, what's outside the shell? It brings the finite universe paradox really close to home, quite literally. Easy https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_-_...of_the_Earth.3F quote:As a passenger on an aircraft, how is it I can see the curvature of the Earth? E: speaking of “up,” the gravity we feel is from the flat earth constantly accelerating upwards at 1G, forever. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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Boris Galerkin posted:E: speaking of “up,” the gravity we feel is from the flat earth constantly accelerating upwards at 1G, forever.
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No, I mean what is the physical limit of up. Do they think there is infinite space upwards? Or is there a roof somewhere? Boris Galerkin posted:E: speaking of “up,” the gravity we feel is from the flat earth constantly accelerating upwards at 1G, forever. This is actually true of the modern understanding of gravity as well, if you just replace "flat earth" with "the flat surface of the round earth". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRr1kaXKBsU
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Tucker Carlson thinks attacking Q is a government mind-control effort to enslave the population. Rather than people recoiling in horror from the murderous neo-Nazi nutters. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/worl...BB1d6Kay?pfr=1+
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90s Cringe Rock posted:ITS JUST A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT but haha really though you can't disprove it and my big hypnotist brain has owned the physicists JUST A LITTLE THOUGHT EXPERIMENT HAHA STOP BEING TROLLED also the secret Also I put a dinosaur in my comic strip because of how OBVIOUSLY WRONG the theory of evolution is. Really, reading Adams' books gave you an early warning of just how broken his brain is, way before he went full-chud in the Trump era. At least, after you went from is this satire, or does he really think this? up to Holy poo poo, he really does think this!
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DarkCrawler posted:So uh, basically this conspiracy is completely dependent on the TRUTH-KNOWERS just being too lazy to learn to fly themselves? I'm pretty sure you could debunk flat earth with a backyard telescope, some math and some patience, but 
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HappyHippo posted:I'm pretty sure you could debunk flat earth with a backyard telescope, some math and some patience, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44 Probably posted a thousand times by now but this is worth a watch, it's relevant to this thread as well!
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Boris Galerkin posted:One of their proofs is from a physics homework problem that says “assume the earth were flat.” Similarly, I've seen this posted as "proof": https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3DCCxIss1WoDyLUYPqfwlrz0LlxooznfCBbD8NdC0Seli0dbNygMbry8w It's a mathematical theory paper, so the writers reduce negligible environmental variables to simplify the math... because that's what you do in these things. They saw the word "linear" and said "gee, that means the plane is flying in a straight line!" Linear, in this sense, means that the mathematical model itself is linear, which has nothing to do with the flight path. So they're trying to read something waaaaaay beyond their understanding and mathematical skills and completely misinterpreting it and claiming that "even NASA admits the world is flat and non-rotating." I tried to point these things out the the person online who posted this, boy was that a mistake. They went loving nuts just spamming me with all sorts of Qanon, NWO, etc. crazy webpages. K-EJ fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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Ola posted:No, I mean what is the physical limit of up. Do they think there is infinite space upwards? Or is there a roof somewhere? That wiki says they accept the notion of an atmosphere, except that it’s flat so they call it the atmolayer and there are multiple layers. As for the gravity thing, I get what you’re saying but there’s a bit of a difference between a planet orbiting/falling around a more massive object (which in turn orbits around something with even more mass) to their take that the earth just accelerates upwards forever for some unknown reason. E: Going back to the original post about this being a relatively harmless conspiracy theory, yeah that’s true in isolation, but beneath it all these people and the people who believe in more dangerous conspiracies like Q have in common that they have an idea of how the world works, and they go out of their way to look for explanations to justify and confirm their beliefs. No amount of concrete proof will matter to them because they don’t want proof, because it’s already true to them. I don’t know much about Q to be honest but they already believe that all democrats are satanic baby eaters or whatever, and no amount of evidence against that will change their mind. These flat earth people already know the world is flat, and no amount of evidence will change their mind. The only thing that will ever change is their goalposts. And that’s pretty loving dangerous. Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:That's not what they care about though. If they loved nature, they wouldn't support the people poisoning the whole of it. They care about being "special beings" that a higher power "chose". It's all the same sickness in varying packaging. oh yeah sure, i part way with them when they say it's because (((aliens))) stole all the giant trees but the seed of the theory is quite sweet. just a shame it's always the nazis who get hold of this poo poo first.
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Boris Galerkin posted:E: speaking of “up,” the gravity we feel is from the flat earth constantly accelerating upwards at 1G, forever. Hmm so if we have been accelerating in a straight line at 1G for, uh, [checks watch] 6,000 or so years (which I assume is how old they think the earth is) ... then our current velocity would be what? I'm no physicist and this is napkin math, please double-check, but I'm coming up with 1,854,316,800,000 m/s or about 6,185 times the speed of light. Seems legit.
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Also accelerating upwards...to where? If the cosmos is just a painted ceiling or some poo poo.
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Morningwoodpecker posted:Tucker Carlson thinks attacking Q is a government mind-control effort to enslave the population. Rather than people recoiling in horror from the murderous neo-Nazi nutters. No he doesn't. He just knows who butters his bread.
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dao Jones posted:Hmm so if we have been accelerating in a straight line at 1G for, uh, [checks watch] 6,000 or so years (which I assume is how old they think the earth is) ... then our current velocity would be what? Not to defend flat earth, but this isn't how it works in relativity. You can accelerate at a "proper acceleration" of 1g (as experienced by the observer being accelerated) indefinitely, but from an external frame of reference you'll appear get asymptotically closer to the speed of light. Edit: Though the chances of flat earthers believing in relativity are quite low. HappyHippo fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Canada definitely has Q crackpots but as far as I know there’s no Deep State conspiracy here yet. My belief is that the ‘Deep State’ is just a coping mechanism for the right. Since the liberals are in power here there is no need to blame the deep state for anything because the state itself is the target of their hatred. If the conservatives were in power and people noticed that their lives still sucked and they weren’t getting ahead then it must be the deep state holding things back to sabotage the government. I think it has to do with the fact that we're inundated with american media and are more familiar with their politics than our own. Also the vague sloganeering of FREEDOM etc minus any actual policy details easily crosses borders. My bro in law is a fox news addict, die hard trumper and against 'socialism' and I'm like dude, what country do you think we live in. We're usually about 10 years behind the states so give it time. We already export a distressing amount of alt-right figureheads.
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There's a pretty strong impulse behind the flat earth stuff to humiliate and crush perceived enemies. They hate nasa and college professors a lot and imagine bloody revenge against them as the ultimate outcome of them being right in the end. Not every flat-earth person goes in thinking that way, but that's probably a big part of the radicalization they undergo, and it's linked closely with the desire to be correct and smarter than everyone else, which is what would attract them in the first place. There's a big religious component to flat earth, just like with q, and those people 100% want to kill or otherwise dominate everyone who isn't like them.
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DarkCrawler posted:Also accelerating upwards...to where? If the cosmos is just a painted ceiling or some poo poo. You have to get some initial acceleration in before you're going fast enough that the bussard ram scoop on the roof can start collecting the souls you need to get humans. None of this is true though, it's what those losers who don't accept no trees on flat earth on greater ice ball earth believe.
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gh0stpinballa posted:oh yeah sure, i part way with them when they say it's because (((aliens))) stole all the giant trees but the seed of the theory is quite sweet. just a shame it's always the nazis who get hold of this poo poo first. Yeah, I hear you. Like the conspiracy theory that giant plateaus are actually tree stumps? That's dumb but definitely a fun idea. Anyway, I guess Kellyanne Conway posted a nude/ topless photo of her underage daughter to twitter. So yet again, republicans are the creeps.
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BiggerBoat posted:No he doesn't. He just knows who butters his bread. Thats true of everyone who publicly supports them, even Trump in the unlikely event he read any details. They know the qult will believe they believe them.
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HappyHippo posted:Edit: Though the chances of flat earthers believing in relativity are quite low. I think you could probably talk them into believing in relativity as long as you didn't call it that, because otherwise moral relativity or something.
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Argas posted:Didn't the modern flat earth poo poo start out as a parody that some conspiracy theorists took as serious then ran with it? It must have. I hope we find out who it was one day, it's probably a great story. "Let's just pick the stupidest thing possible and see how many can be made to believe it".
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