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Off the top of my head, I can only name five uninterrupted governments/nation states that existed then and exist now: the US, the UK, Switzerland, Japan sort of, and the Holy See. France was the Second French Empire back then, Mexico has had two different revolutions, Canadian confederation was just about to happen, and so on. But those "not actually the same country" places are all still recognizable as France, Mexico Canada, Germany, Italy, and on and on. Everyone could point to Poland on a map, even during the times when there was no Poland.
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People will definitely still maintain identities based on ancient borders even long after those borders are gone. Ask a Cornish person if they're English sometime and see how complicated the answer gets. Folk will be more easily able to identify as whatever ethnicity/nationality they desire, even if there's one world government - and presumably there'd still be plenty of local governments and such to administer local matters.
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HopperUK posted:Ask a Cornish person if they're English sometime and see how complicated the answer gets. hold on, is this one of those questions that's likely to get me punched in the face
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Cat Hatter posted:The Civil War ended in 1865. 2021-1865 is 156 years. You're right, I misread you. Sorry!
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The Eugenics war was in 1992 though. It's been 300 years.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:hold on, is this one of those questions that's likely to get me punched in the face I mean...
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:hold on, is this one of those questions that's likely to get me punched in the face It could get them arrested, depending on the answer. Just for saying they're english.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Anyone still play ST:O? I logged in for the first time since the big DS9 story and now I’m helping Picard-era Seven and Michael Burnham in a trial organized by Abraham Lincoln and Yarnek, which, even for this game, is just an insane crossover. If they just gave you auto-execute of abilities on PC I might be tempted to casually mess around with it again, but as is there's no way I'm putting up with constantly mashing 4 hotbars worth of abilities.
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It's deeply weird that he isn't in Disco or Lower Decks or Picard. How is it even legal to make Trek without him? Who are they hiring? Other actors??
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They should hire Chip Esten and see if anybody notices.
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Your move CBS/Viacom. https://www.engadget.com/babylon-5-remastered-hbo-max-digital-download-080058907.html Kinda embarrassing if you can't do an HD remaster now.
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I feel like B5 would need way more CGI work based on what I’ve seen than DS9 would
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After a rewatch DS9 does have less CGI than I remember. There are a fairly small handful of episodes with big battle sequences that will have to be 100% redone. But it doesn't seem like it would be that bad. I don't think it's even, like, a half hour total across the entire series. Not to minimize how much work the project would be as a whole, because yeah, it's still a lot. I wonder if some of the earlier battle scenes would actually be worse -- the ones where they mixed model work with other stuff. I would definitely settle for complete CGI recreations if necessary. Sir Lemming fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Jan 26, 2021 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I feel like B5 would need way more CGI work based on what I’ve seen than DS9 would Well, they didn't touch the CGI, only upscaled. The important thing is the original live action footage was scanned and archived at 4k. It's preserved. This isn't the most definitive version that it could be, but it at least allows that version to exist someday and is a huge improvement on what there was before.
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I just noticed that TNG refers to the Klingon Defence force. Is there a reason for that naming, or is it just a brainfart?
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BonHair posted:I just noticed that TNG refers to the Klingon Defence force. Is there a reason for that naming, or is it just a brainfart? Ancient Klingon proverb: The best defense is a good offense
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TOS Movie era Klingons did tend to talk a lot of poo poo about how they were only responding to Starfleet aggression and provocation. It's probably a 'Democratic People's Republic' sort of situation.
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Or the Berlin Wall being there to "protect" East Berlin from the West, although you'd think you'd want the guns to not be pointed towards the East for that.
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Yeah, or all the war ministries of Europe getting rebranded as defence ministries. It just doesn't seem very klingon. Surely the purpose of the fleet is to expand the empire, not to preserve the status quo?
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It’s probably a Klingons=Japan thing
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Sir Lemming posted:After a rewatch DS9 does have less CGI than I remember. There are a fairly small handful of episodes with big battle sequences that will have to be 100% redone. But it doesn't seem like it would be that bad. I don't think it's even, like, a half hour total across the entire series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__kWrK_RFx8
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I think the "defense" part of the "Klingon Defense Force" is an artifact of S1 TNG when there wasn't a clear idea on what the 24th-century Klingon Empire was like, and there was some vague idea that they were an associate member of the Federation or something.
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A little part of me wants them to put ships of the era in some of the wide shots of a remastered DS9 that weren't in the original show for whatever reason - Sovereigns, Norways, Intrepids, Californias, the odd Prometheus...not in the actual battle shots, but just in fleet shots or establishing shots of the station. Oh god, am I...am I George Lucas?
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Yvonmukluk posted:A little part of me wants them to put ships of the era in some of the wide shots of a remastered DS9 that weren't in the original show for whatever reason - Sovereigns, Norways, Intrepids, Californias, the odd Prometheus...not in the actual battle shots, but just in fleet shots or establishing shots of the station. Reading this post made my rear end in a top hat involuntarily clench shut
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I’d be fine with new classes popping up in stuff like the establishing station shots or static fleet arrangements, but uhhhhhh you keep your dirty loving revisionist ideas away from episodes like Sacrifice of Angels.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’d be fine with new classes popping up in stuff like the establishing station shots or static fleet arrangements, but uhhhhhh you keep your dirty loving revisionist ideas away from episodes like Sacrifice of Angels. That's what I mean! I'm not saying put new ships in the actual battles, that'd throw off the choreography. Just suggest those ships exist.
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I would digitally insert a huge ship, just this massive fucker that's easily hundreds of times larger than a Galaxy, only to have it never commented on despite being in literally every shot. And its name would be easily readable on screen: The USS Waves-of-Cum
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Yvonmukluk posted:That's what I mean! I'm not saying put new ships in the actual battles, that'd throw off the choreography. Just suggest those ships exist. Not only should those ships not exist, but if changes were to be made I'd rather have ships of the era that were only seen in one or two episodes of TNG (sometimes just as floating scrap) like the New Orleans, Cheyenne, Niagara, Constellation and Ambassador. And more Nebulas 
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Pick posted:Speaking of ships that should not exist, Kira/Odo Eh I dunno I'm okay with it. Maybe that's just because of that block of wood she was paired up with early on. ...I hate Bareil I'm sorry he's a charisma vacuum.
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Pick posted:Not Shakaar? Stop reminding me about all these Bajoran wastemen I have deliberately forgotten!!
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Pick posted:Speaking of ships that should not exist, Kira/Odo It's better than the Plan A that Nana Visitor refused to do
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Nessus posted:The Federation doesn't seem to be eager to specifically eradicate historical concepts or anything. Even if the boundaries of countries lost meaning, especially relatively young or arbitrary ones, you'd still have regional histories, and cities wouldn't just disappear either (barring nuclear weapons, and not even then). I just took it to be like an everything's bigger now because it's space thing so a lot of countries still exist as they were but are the equivalent of states or provinces or whatever now to a planet's nation. But that makes me think also like, starfleet is headquartered on earth in SF but like, is there an earth governing body that's separate from the federation and starfleet?
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