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Kavak posted:Why is this a thing? Is there something in British culture that creates a stumbling block for accepting trans people? It's just rainy fascism TERF island, where it's considered mainstream acceptable to spew trans panic bullshit in newspapers every other week.
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Lemon-Lime posted:It's just rainy fascism TERF island, where it's considered mainstream acceptable to spew trans panic bullshit in newspapers every other week. It’s loving wild to me that the UK somehow colonized like half of the world.
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CitizenKeen posted:This is madness, but I would like to offer positive reinforcement of that kind of high-effort posting. thank
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Has anyone else read Jon Peterson's The Elusive Shift?
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thetoughestbean posted:It’s loving wild to me that the UK somehow colonized like half of the world.
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Halloween Jack posted:Imagine how desperate and determined you'd be to conquer the world if the alternative was eating British cuisine for the rest of your life. Okay, I know it's a cheap shot, but keep in mind that the things that come to mind for most people for "British cuisine" are working class food. You know, the people who historically couldn't afford much in the way of spices/etc as part of their staple diet until recently, long after the rise of the colonial empire, and had to make do with what they could afford or grow/raise themselves? (e: also, the whole "multiple world wars forcing rationing and creative use of what's at hand" didn't help either) Yeah, those people. I get it, it's bland compared to other cuisine, but "haha british food bad" is just repackaged "haha we've got it better than poor people". Sorry. Hits a nerve. (I'm not British.) SkyeAuroline fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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I thought it was the other way around and all the good British food comes from its oppressed people. I don't believe that Boris Johnson subsists on anything but beer, toad-in-the-hole, spotted dick, and various meat and bread dishes that are all called "pudding."
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Extremely confused by the idea that Nobilis is "intentionally obfuscated."
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I am okay making fun of British cuisine and it's really weird to call it classist when that poo poo is in fine dining restaurants and poor kitchens alike.
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I for one really like pasties.
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Jan 27, 2021 20:01
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I miss ordering pasties in Phoenix since there was a place there that made ones that were super good. However, trading that for brisket isn’t so bad.
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Wait, wait. Hear me out. Brisket pasty.
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That would probably do well in Austin!
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Rand Brittain posted:Extremely confused by the idea that Nobilis is "intentionally obfuscated." I don't think it's intentionally obfuscated, Moran is a very clear writer. That said, the concepts and organization are very unusual so it's hard to grok unless you happen to operate at her wavelength.
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dwarf74 posted:I am okay making fun of British cuisine and it's really weird to call it classist when that poo poo is in fine dining restaurants and poor kitchens alike. What "fine dining" restaurants do you go to that serve steak and kidney pie, toad-in-the-hole, bangers and mash, or chips with gravy and mushy peas?
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SkyeAuroline posted:Okay, I know it's a cheap shot, but keep in mind that the things that come to mind for most people for "British cuisine" are working class food. You know, the people who historically couldn't afford much in the way of spices/etc as part of their staple diet until recently, long after the rise of the colonial empire, and had to make do with what they could afford or grow/raise themselves? (e: also, the whole "multiple world wars forcing rationing and creative use of what's at hand" didn't help either) Yeah, those people. I get it, it's bland compared to other cuisine, but "haha british food bad" is just repackaged "haha we've got it better than poor people".
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France isn't a cold and unimportant little island where, barring imperialism, they would all have to work very hard and live mainly on herrings and potatoes.
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I lived in England for 3 years and have been back twice since. The food there is fine. There are plenty of excellent, traditional British dishes. The reputation for tasteless boiled meats and mash is weird and undeserved. They are especially solid on their pie game. Pie crust makes everything better. They have good seafood, some excellent beef dishes (beef wellington, for example), very good sausages, a wide array of amazing desserts, and of course, they invented pub food. Do they have junk food? Of course they do, everyone does. But I defy you to point to a better tasting junk food than a piping hot battered fried fish sided with fat fluffy crispy chips, drizzled with malt vinegar and lightly dusted with salt, served in a wad of (uninked, please) newspaper and wolfed down steaming in the cool night air along with your fifth pint of beer.
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Yawgmoth posted:French peasants managed to make delicious food just fine, as did the Germans, Polish, etc. and they didn't pillage half the planet. Britain has no excuse.
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Leperflesh posted:Do they have junk food? Of course they do, everyone does. But I defy you to point to a better tasting junk food than a piping hot battered fried fish sided with fat fluffy crispy chips, drizzled with malt vinegar and lightly dusted with salt, served in a wad of (uninked, please) newspaper and wolfed down steaming in the cool night air along with your fifth pint of beer. 
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Leperflesh posted:Do they have junk food? Of course they do, everyone does. But I defy you to point to a better tasting junk food than a piping hot battered fried fish sided with fat fluffy crispy chips, drizzled with malt vinegar and lightly dusted with salt, served in a wad of (uninked, please) newspaper and wolfed down steaming in the cool night air along with your fifth pint of beer. also some of the chips go in a chip butty
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Leperflesh posted:Do they have junk food? Of course they do, everyone does. But I defy you to point to a better tasting junk food than a piping hot battered fried fish sided with fat fluffy crispy chips, drizzled with malt vinegar and lightly dusted with salt, served in a wad of (uninked, please) newspaper and wolfed down steaming in the cool night air along with your fifth pint of beer. *Points to Greggs' Sausage Rolls* Mind you, I've never been one for cod....
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Trad Games Chat: It's Still Technically Trad Games If We're All Writing Like George R.R. Martin
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Rand Brittain posted:Extremely confused by the idea that Nobilis is "intentionally obfuscated." idk, the layout for 2e is basically a training program to go permanently cross-eyed
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90s Cringe Rock posted:butty Yeah, France was still punishing Haiti for the crime of freeing themselves from slavery until 2010 Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jan 27, 2021 |
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Halloween Jack posted:I thought it was the other way around and all the good British food comes from its oppressed people. I don't believe that Boris Johnson subsists on anything but beer, toad-in-the-hole, spotted dick, and various meat and bread dishes that are all called "pudding." My understanding is it was a little bit of both: A lot of stuff that people think of when they think of bad British cuisine is a combination of stuff typically eaten by working class mainlanders or recipes concocted during The War as a means to deal with rationed food. Basically British food saw an influx in new recipes and ideas during the colonial period, saw a dip in quality during the early to mid 20th century as a result of the World Wars, and then took a decade or two to recover and see a new influx of recipes and creativity with immigration. I am not super informed on the topic, though, and could be way off base...
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They get credit for inventing from whole cloth Chicken Tikka Masala, and also for the most lavish desserts ever concieved. If The Great British Bake-Off is any indication, they put the same genius and resources into High Tea confections that we did into the Manhattan Project. They probably got more out of their investment, frankly.
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I mean, let's be clear - American 1950-70's White People Food is no glorious treat, either.
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TK_Nyarlathotep posted:Trad Games Chat: It's Still Technically Trad Games If We're All Writing Like George R.R. Martin ??? But GRRM doesn't write...
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Jimbozig posted:??? But GRRM doesn't write... No, but he does e a t
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dwarf74 posted:I mean, let's be clear - American 1950-70's White People Food is no glorious treat, either. What, you don't want whole lamb chops in gelatin? Or, for that matter, "dump a can of vegetables in lemon jello"? It's not glorious. It's experimental though. I respect the willingness to break from tradition and try new things even if it was mostly horrific.
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Yawgmoth posted:Poutine. On par IMO but not "better." I've had about four or five Poutines via my three visits to Montreal, all curated by genuine local canadians, ranging from the basic timmy's through to fancy restaurant poutine. And they're drat good, don't get me wrong. But scarfing down scaldingly hot fish & chips in the drizzle outside a chippy in Caernaerfon where the folks behind the counter are yammering away in welsh is a life-altering experience that cannot be beat. 90s Cringe Rock posted:fried halloumi fried cheese is alright but I can't eat all that much of it, it's just too much concentrated grease chips & ketchup on sliced white bread is one of those "bad british food" things people were just complaining about, come on hyphz posted:*Points to Greggs' Sausage Rolls* Sausage rolls in general are a thing yep and I've had some drat good ones yep but greggs? Ehhhh.
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Heck the Belgians who are usually stereotyped as basically harmless pseudo Hobbits who like to eat fries and make comics(when people even remember that it's it's own country and not just an odd branch of France), had probably the most brutal example of Colonialism the world has ever known with how it treated the Congo Leperflesh posted:I lived in England for 3 years and have been back twice since. The food there is fine. There are plenty of excellent, traditional British dishes. The reputation for tasteless boiled meats and mash is weird and undeserved. Speaking of British junk food; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_oIys5KS4A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogfyJICT9aI
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DalaranJ posted:Has anyone else read Jon Peterson's The Elusive Shift? Yeah, really impressive stuff, isn't it? Really wish I could read some of those old zines for myself.
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drrockso20 posted:Speaking of British junk food; Don't forget https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchy_box
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Leperflesh posted:On par IMO but not "better." I've had about four or five Poutines via my three visits to Montreal, all curated by genuine local canadians, ranging from the basic timmy's through to fancy restaurant poutine. And they're drat good, don't get me wrong. But scarfing down scaldingly hot fish & chips in the drizzle outside a chippy in Caernaerfon where the folks behind the counter are yammering away in welsh is a life-altering experience that cannot be beat. Leperflesh posted:fried cheese is alright but I can't eat all that much of it, it's just too much concentrated grease
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Yawgmoth posted:French peasants managed to make delicious food just fine, as did the Germans, Polish, etc. and they didn't pillage half the planet. Britain has no excuse. The decade-long period of rationing during and immediately after WWII killed British cuisine. Not only did the "institutional" knowledge of how to make certain things disappear with a near-decade of disuse, but entire cheese cultures died out completely and permanently because nobody could make that kind of cheese during rationing.
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LatwPIAT posted:The decade-long period of rationing during and immediately after WWII killed British cuisine. Not only did the "institutional" knowledge of how to make certain things disappear with a near-decade of disuse, but entire cheese cultures died out completely and permanently because nobody could make that kind of cheese during rationing. I've read so much 2021 poo poo pumping through my loving veins lately that somehow THIS was the saddest thing I've read today. The fascist arc of history really does wipe out everything it touches, huh?
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LatwPIAT posted:The decade-long period of rationing during and immediately after WWII killed British cuisine. Not only did the "institutional" knowledge of how to make certain things disappear with a near-decade of disuse, but entire cheese cultures died out completely and permanently because nobody could make that kind of cheese during rationing.  BinaryDoubts posted:I don't think it's intentionally obfuscated, Moran is a very clear writer. That said, the concepts and organization are very unusual so it's hard to grok unless you happen to operate at her wavelength.
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