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Rabble
Dec 3, 2005

Pillbug
I think today is probably about as high as GME is going to go unless reddit can somehow get back in the news cycle for another pump. The euphoria is going to wear off and all those "diamond hands" will take their cut and run when the fun wears off.

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A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

Im tempted to play both sides as well. that way, I always come out on top

mongeese
Mar 30, 2003

If you think in fractals...
Looks like the memes are taking a dip right now.

Victorian Gentleman
Nov 24, 2007
You sir clearly have no etiquette
Reddit still throwing money at this.

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Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Rabble posted:

I think today is probably about as high as GME is going to go unless reddit can somehow get back in the news cycle for another pump. The euphoria is going to wear off and all those "diamond hands" will take their cut and run when the fun wears off.

Maybe but people also saw the drop the other day and said the party was over, just as prices rebounded to 400+

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Just was at the Apple store getting my AirPods replaced under their replacement program for the defective bunch and the guy at the counter was full of tons of energy talking about how DOGE is going to the moon.

It was a really surreal moment where my worlds were colliding and I started questioning whether the simulation was exposing itself to me again.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





So I opened a Vanguard account earlier today, threw some chump change in it via a bank transfer (that they seem to have fronted me for in the meantime), and bought some AMC stocks in the baby dip this morning in the hopes that reddit would zerg those later and make me a buck.

Now that that hasn't happened, I want to sell those AMC shares at an ever-so-slight profit and grab a token GME instead, but it's giving me a warning that if I sell those AMCs on the same day I bought them, I might be flagged for freeriding. Is that a thing I need to be worried about?

A MIRACLE
Sep 17, 2007

All right. It's Saturday night; I have no date, a two-liter bottle of Shasta and my all-Rush mix-tape... Let's rock.

TraderStav posted:

Just was at the Apple store getting my AirPods replaced under their replacement program for the defective bunch and the guy at the counter was full of tons of energy talking about how DOGE is going to the moon.

It was a really surreal moment where my worlds were colliding and I started questioning whether the simulation was exposing itself to me again.

I remember hearing that from two bros about bitcoin a few years ago the day it peaked at $17k

mongeese
Mar 30, 2003

If you think in fractals...

TraderStav posted:

Just was at the Apple store getting my AirPods replaced under their replacement program for the defective bunch and the guy at the counter was full of tons of energy talking about how DOGE is going to the moon.

It was a really surreal moment where my worlds were colliding and I started questioning whether the simulation was exposing itself to me again.

I heard it's going to $1 soon.

Rabble
Dec 3, 2005

Pillbug

Shammypants posted:

Maybe but people also saw the drop the other day and said the party was over, just as prices rebounded to 400+

Yeah I could totally be wrong and this thing shoots the moon but I don't see this thing staying in the public consciousness. If RH hadn't done their fuckery yesterday I doubt we'd even be talking about this anymore.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Rabble posted:

Yeah I could totally be wrong and this thing shoots the moon but I don't see this thing staying in the public consciousness. If RH hadn't done their fuckery yesterday I doubt we'd even be talking about this anymore.

Again you might be right but at this rate WSB hits 10 million users from its current 6 million by Sunday or Monday

gregday
May 23, 2003

Looks like RH just dropped the limit to 1 share.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

gregday posted:

Looks like RH just dropped the limit to 1 share.

Time for doge to go up uP UP!!!!

(seriously though think that’s going to help AMC?)

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

TraderStav posted:

Just was at the Apple store getting my AirPods replaced under their replacement program for the defective bunch and the guy at the counter was full of tons of energy talking about how DOGE is going to the moon.
Is he aware he works for AAPL, an actual good security to own

Dreadite
Dec 31, 2004

College Slice
all this fomo makes me dca into large cap growth funds even harder than i was before

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down

Syrinxx posted:

Is he aware he works for AAPL, an actual good security to own

I just nodded and pretended like I couldn't fully understand him behind his mask and the intercom system that goes through the plexiglass that they now have. I felt like I was at a currency exchange booth at an airport.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
Even if this results in loss for a ton of people (I bought 2 shares just to be in on this) it's interesting how the financial world shows its true colours even more with this. Just read some post that claims they lost $20 billion hold on to their shorts.

Crazyweasel
Oct 29, 2006
lazy

UnfurledSails posted:

Okay, decided to put in some play money into the poop because it's fun. 5 contracts of GME $9 puts 2/26 for $100 per contract. I don't think it'll be back to single digits by the end of next month necessarily, but I'm hoping for a major crash down in the next few weeks to make some profit. I'll also keep another 500$ in reserve to double down if GME goes to 1k or whatever.

Let's see where we are in 2 weeks.

I’m not sure you are aware but you need to watch these like a hawk. You bought when IV was stupid high so there is a huge premium associated with those that could just vanish if GME cools down and there is just a slow death to the stock price, even if it is over the next few weeks and it goes really low.

This site has a slider that allows you to play with volatility and see how it effects the price. I think historically GME options were on the 200s.

https://optionstrat.com/build/long-put

naughty joystick
Jun 6, 2011

mongeese posted:

I heard it's going to $1 soon.

Might not be crazy, the mainstream momentum from the meme stocks might carry over to the only casino open on the weekends (either because they’re trying to recoup their losses or FOMO from having missed that boat), gamblers gonna gamble

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
I like shorts, they’re comfy and easy to wear.

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

Where can you buy doge other than robinhood? They're not selling any crypto in my state

Enigma89
Jan 2, 2007

by CVG
I gave up on Robinhood and moved over to TDAmeritrade and Fidelity. I can't do fractional shares on Ameritrade so it feels like I have to use Fidelity but holy poo poo is that UI rear end.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

GME dropping below 280

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

RIP AMC maybe

a friend in need
Jul 7, 2018

It has done this like five times before. Nothing is different this time.

Tokyo Sex Whale
Oct 9, 2012

"My butt smells like vanilla ice cream"

Tokyo Sex Whale posted:

E*TRADE just closed my 275/270 bear put spread on GME at a loss overriding a limit order, total potential loss was 5000 and I had $17k cash on deposit

Oh I am so pissed now my limit order would have triggered the last dip

E: no message, alert in the account just says to see the transactions they carried out but they loving courtesy call me every time I have an option expiring on Friday

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Can't imagine there's a lot of people wanting to stay long going into the weekend.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Unsinkabear posted:

So I opened a Vanguard account earlier today, threw some chump change in it via a bank transfer (that they seem to have fronted me for in the meantime), and bought some AMC stocks in the baby dip this morning in the hopes that reddit would zerg those later and make me a buck.

Now that that hasn't happened, I want to sell those AMC shares at an ever-so-slight profit and grab a token GME instead, but it's giving me a warning that if I sell those AMCs on the same day I bought them, I might be flagged for freeriding. Is that a thing I need to be worried about?

you should read this ASAP https://investor.vanguard.com/investing/online-trading/trading-penalties

sim
Sep 24, 2003

It's crazy to watch GME drop well below $300, feel a gut punch, and then remember that it closed at $76.79 at the beginning of this week

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

This is fun but maybe not my thing. At the end of the day I may just sell and leave this to other people with less anxiety

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



People are def gonna bail on this poo poo before the weekend.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Crazyweasel posted:

I’m not sure you are aware but you need to watch these like a hawk. You bought when IV was stupid high so there is a huge premium associated with those that could just vanish if GME cools down and there is just a slow death to the stock price, even if it is over the next few weeks and it goes really low.

This site has a slider that allows you to play with volatility and see how it effects the price. I think historically GME options were on the 200s.

https://optionstrat.com/build/long-put

Cool website!

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

Bread Set Jettison posted:

This is fun but maybe not my thing. At the end of the day I may just sell and leave this to other people with less anxiety

It's fun but despite all the madness I only managed to profit about an equal amount to what I lost gambling on SPY options last March. Doing this consistently would be tough, I'll have some fun with it but boring index funds are the winner in my book.

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

Crazyweasel posted:

I’m not sure you are aware but you need to watch these like a hawk. You bought when IV was stupid high so there is a huge premium associated with those that could just vanish if GME cools down and there is just a slow death to the stock price, even if it is over the next few weeks and it goes really low.

This site has a slider that allows you to play with volatility and see how it effects the price. I think historically GME options were on the 200s.

https://optionstrat.com/build/long-put

I know about IV's ofc. It's a lottery ticket. The only way I win is if there's a quick and big crash in a single day or two. That's what I'm betting on.

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

I'm out of this thing, bought an apple stock and some calls. Seems like a better investment at this point.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

AngryBooch posted:

how on Earth does this fit with the thesis that Robinhood had to stop allowing GME buys due to capital requirements? Somebody is lying.

Lemme try and explain this.

I sell a stock to you for $10. Becuase of the 2-day settlement rule, your broker has to have capital on hand for your $10 expenditure, and they cannot use your account balance as that capital. (It's not the full $10, the capital reserve requirement is expressed as a percentage of the sale and I don't recall what percent, it doesn't matter though.)
Then a few minutes later, you sell that same stock to Susan, for $11. Your broker is still on the hook for the full amount they were before, because 2 days haven't gone by, but now Susan's broker is on the hook for capital reserves to cover her expenditure.
Then a few minutes later, Susan sells that same stock back to me, for $9. My broker is now on the hook for cash to capitalize my expenditure, and so is Susan's, and so is yours.

The same stock has been traded around right back to the original owner, but the charts record all three sales as volume. The float has been the same 1 share of stock the whole time, not 3. Three brokerages have now accumulated a responsibility to hold some cash on hand, because of regulations, for 2 days, no matter what, and they can't use our balances for that.

Do this millions of times and a bunch of discount brokerages that don't have enough cash on hand are starting to run out of reserves. It's OK if their own clients sell shares, because that does not incur any additional reserve requirement for them, but they restrict their clients from putting more buys in (not even a sell-and-then-buy-minutes-later) because each time their clients do that, their situation gets worse.

Now, this gets more complex in that in some cases it's not the brokerage itself, but a third party company that settles trades for them, which is accumulating these reserve requirements. The brokerages have arrangements with these third party settlement companies that may impose additional restrictions or requirements on order flow/halting/etc.

Moreover, these same brokerages handle loads of other shares changing hands, some for far more money at far higher volume. But: they already had cash on hand sufficient to handle the normal volume of those trades, it's not "extraordinary volume" so their own bean counters have accounted for how much they need. It may be that they have $1B set aside just to account for people trading AAPL, and only need $10M more to account for today's volume of AMC... but that doesn't matter, because these companies are not in the habit of having loads of unused cash sitting around, they run lean operations that are very carefully calculated to keep them in the black, just barely, for their capital reserve requirements and all the rest of their money is doing actual work.

The government says to these companies, via regulations: yes, not only are you allowed to restrict trading on individual securities for your own reasons, you have to restrict trading if you run out of reserves, you may not just run into the red on capital reserves and continue to allow trading.


Now, who set these rules up? Why? do they really benefit retail traders? That's a complex issue, and I'd argue that taken as a whole, the full set of rules by which big financial corps run by, heavily advantage the rich and powerful over the retail small-potatoes investor. But today, right now, outfits like Robinhood etc. are not intentionally loving over their customers just because they feel like being nice to the TWO hedge funds that are in big trouble over their big short positions.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jan 29, 2021

UncleGuito
May 8, 2005

www.ipadbackdrops.com daily wallpaper updates deserving of your iPad

cr0y posted:

People are def gonna bail on this poo poo before the weekend.

Yeah especially with so much of the market in the red right now - can def see people bailing and dumping everything into safer picks.

Ball Tazeman
Feb 2, 2010

Yeah I pulled all meme stock earlier today before I lost any more money. Luckily I made a little in doge last night, but it definitely wasn’t worth the anxiety and energy to go out -$10 or whatever. Left a little in doge for fun, put the rest in better long term options.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

cr0y posted:

People are def gonna bail on this poo poo before the weekend.

The funny thing is that RH being so blatant about preventing people from buying is just going to extend this out further as people furiously try to bail for other platforms and buy in next week

if the bubble had "just" popped then it'd be over already

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Burn Zone
May 22, 2004



Ursine Catastrophe posted:

I think "420.69 is the meme sell" has been spread around with enough people "smartly" going under that that the real cap is going to be closer to sub 400 at this point, but I don't know if the existing limit buy/sell numbers are in a place where I don't need a terminal to look at them

here's something I saw earlier

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