Jazerus posted:

oh, but at least he's not anti-semitic

genericnick posted:

Lobster God posted:

I have bad news for you regarding the content of the 2004 novel Sevenry Two Virgins, written by one B. Johnson.

twoday posted:

Hmm the mail is bad, but the express always struck me as much worse

Roy Greenslade posted:

One of the things that always makes me furious is the knee-jerk stupidity of saying that the Daily Mail used to support fascism, thereby implying that it is somehow tainted goods in its modern form.

I certainly have my differences with the politics of the modern Mail, but it is blind prejudice to link what it published, for a brief period, in the 1930s to what it does today.

So I was delighted to see on Anna Raccoon's blog last week a piece by Matt Wardman in which he presented a media history lesson.

He omitted a crucial fact and I'll come to that in a moment. But he made two very important points - firstly, the Mail was not the only paper to carry articles supporting Oswald Mosley's blackshirts. The Daily Mirror did too.

Secondly, trying to criticise the 2011 Mail by pointing to an 80-year-old aberration lacks any value whatsoever. It not only had no lasting effect on the Mail. It had almost no effect even at the time.

quote:

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The Mirror's sister paper, then known as the Sunday Pictorial, even ran pictures of uniformed blackshirts playing table tennis and enjoying a sing-song around a piano. Both titles also planned a beauty contest aimed at finding Britain's prettiest woman fascist.

Not many people know that. Certainly, nothing like as many as know that the Mail ran Rothermere's "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" (which is Wardman's point).

He isn't doing down the Mirror. He is merely saying that it is unfair that one title should suffer from the association with fascism while the other doesn't.

But there is more context that is important. Harold's son, Esmond (Rothermere the Second) assumed control of the Mail before Harold died in 1940. Its coverage from the outbreak of war the year before reveals not a scintilla of support for Hitler.

It is also important to view Harold's misguided views through the prism of widespread support for appeasement, not least from The Times under the editorship of Geoffrey Dawson and, of course, many leading politicians.

Lastly, it is also the case that the Mail of the 1930s was not nearly as influential as the Daily Express and its owner, Lord Beaverbrook.

And it was the Express, in March 1933, that ran a splash headlined "Judea declares war on Germany: Jews of all the world unite in action".

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Stairmaster posted:

Bad island. No good.

Stairmaster posted:

Bad island. No good.

Shear Modulus posted:

i had no idea chicken tikka masala was a classic british food

Gats Akimbo posted:

Victorian fusion food. "Yeah, this spicy chicken is good stuff but we're British so make it like it has gravy on."

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On a typical dark, wet Glasgow night, a bus driver coming off shift came in and ordered a chicken curry. He sent it back to the waiter saying it's dry. At the time, Dad had an ulcer and was enjoying a plate of tomato soup. So he said why not put some tomato soup into the curry with some spices. They sent it back to the table and the bus driver absolutely loved it. He and his friends came back again and again and we put it on the menu.

twoday posted:

https://twitter.com/SlimyQuagsire/status/1198320201793753089?s=20

Ploughman’s lunch with a salad?? Where is the pickle

twoday posted:

https://twitter.com/SlimyQuagsire/status/1198320201793753089?s=20

Ploughman’s lunch with a salad?? Where is the pickle

Shear Modulus posted:

lol i actually didn't know that

Regarde Aduck posted:

It’s our one good food but it’s only sort of ours?? I dunno

Ugh gently caress everything in that list apart from the tikka and crumpets

crispix posted:

did yougov really say a swear

spankmeister posted:

It's the wrong kind of bacon even you limey fucks can't get anything right

twoday posted:

https://twitter.com/SlimyQuagsire/status/1198320201793753089?s=20

Ploughman’s lunch with a salad?? Where is the pickle

Jose posted:

Its Americans who are bad at bacon hth

steinrokkan posted:

Black pudding is good.

i say swears online posted:

it's not supposed to be floppy dammit

i say swears online posted:

it's not supposed to be floppy dammit

Pretty good posted:

Love it when I'm trying to get a forkful of crumbly cardboard but it just disintegrates into smaller and smaller pieces every time I touch it

XMNN posted:

i live here and i never noticed how brown it all is until you line it up like that

Pryor on Fire posted:

You guys have lots of good restaurants serving up paneers and masalas and saag and naan why the gently caress would you ever eat "classic british" unless you just hate yourself?