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THS posted:why cant everyone share tbh most imperialist powers would have never had to have colonies if they could share between theyselves
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Feb 7, 2021 07:04
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look at brunei's little pp haha
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Feb 7, 2021 07:07
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It really is stupid that China and Vietnam can't simply get over the Sino-Soviet Split and team up to take down Yankee Demon influence in the region.
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Feb 7, 2021 08:01
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The reinforced islands are entirely designed against the US military power in the SCS, because China doesn't need these islands to protect her fishing and oil drilling claims against Vietnam and Philippines. Keep in mind the US doesn't have any territorial claim in the SCS. The US also doesn't want to put it the resource to protect the reef claim for anybody either, including when Philippines lost control of the Scarborough Shoal. It was one of the reasons Philippines flipped from one-sided pro US to sitting on the fence. And if you look into the actual neogociation, China doesn't mind fishing right compremise all that much. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 09:56 on Feb 7, 2021 |
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Feb 7, 2021 08:16
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The country is spelled Philippines Its citizens are called Filipinos
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Feb 7, 2021 08:36
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stephenthinkpad posted:I watched an analysis from the EIC of ThePrint, he basically said the farm bills are pretty much dead, because letting it drag on to upcoming provincial level elections is not good for BJP. Now it's time for Modi and his gang figure out a way to walk back without losing too much face. he should start a war with pakistan that would really boost some ratings
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Feb 7, 2021 08:50
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gradenko_2000 posted:The country is spelled Philippines Alright, that clears it a bit.
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Feb 7, 2021 09:07
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Mantis42 posted:It really is stupid that China and Vietnam can't simply get over the Sino-Soviet Split and team up to take down Yankee Demon influence in the region. China ruled Vietnam for a thousand years, lmao at your Western parochialism thinking history began in 1945
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Feb 7, 2021 10:39
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Mantis42 posted:It really is stupid that China and Vietnam can't simply get over the Sino-Soviet Split and team up to take down Yankee Demon influence in the region. Geopolitically, much like the USSR was more dangerous to China than USA was, China is more dangerous to Vietnam than USA is. There's no basis for China and Vietnam to team up unless the countries were to begin amicably integrating EU-style, but China is too big for power to be distributed in a balanced way at all. And everyone learned from the dominating position of the USSR within the eastern bloc: when one country is so big that others have no hope of forming a bloc large enough to overrule it, everyone else is left at its mercy. So, ultimately Vietnam has and will have an interest in keeping USA in the region as long as it's the only viable counterbalance to China. And the only thinkable alternatives are if Russia or Japan underwent a massive imperialist naval buildup or if there was some unlikely US-independent military alliance between ASEAN countries.
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Feb 7, 2021 11:02
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uncop posted:Geopolitically, much like the USSR was more dangerous to China than USA was, China is more dangerous to Vietnam than USA is. There's no basis for China and Vietnam to team up unless the countries were to begin amicably integrating EU-style, but China is too big for power to be distributed in a balanced way at all. And everyone learned from the dominating position of the USSR within the eastern bloc: when one country is so big that others have no hope of forming a bloc large enough to overrule it, everyone else is left at its mercy. Vietnamese traditional regional ally was the Soviet Union and generally still is Russia which it continues to buy arms from. Also, Vietnam does a ton of trade with the PRC despite maritime disputes. From what I have seen US "freedom of the seas" patrols are unilateral and the closet thing US-Vietnamese cooperation was a few US navy ships docking in Vietnam...that is about it. 23% of Vietnamese exports go to and 37% of Vietnamese exports come from the PRC/HK. Vietnam both doesn't want to give up its claims of the Parcels and I don't really think is interested in becoming an actual US ally.
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Feb 7, 2021 13:51
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je1 healthcare posted:France got to lay claim to Vietnamese territory, it's China's turn. Oh yeah, the modern relations of China/Vietnam are totally comparable to French colonization
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Feb 7, 2021 14:02
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Maximo Roboto posted:Sixth Tone is state-funded so they might not want to frame a Chinese problem as a capitalist problem haha this site rules http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006755/my-workout-with-beijings-geriatric-gym-rats 
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Feb 7, 2021 16:04
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indigi posted:in point of fact this doesn't mean that other unions weren't crushed Yeah, the prc has never pretended they would tolerate independent unions. Primarily for fear of external subversion, as demonstrated by what happened in Poland and Chile with solidarity and the truckers union. Being intertwined with the government doesnt change the fact that the acftu does function as a union. Otherwise people would see no reason to join it, and I doubt a few hundred million are that irrational when it comes to career choices. If anything the increases in minimum wage and working conditions indicate that having a single centralized union with it's privileges embedded in the state's structure is more effective than the western model of having dozens of independent unions that as you say, get crushed rather easily.
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Feb 7, 2021 16:39
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The issue is that the power isn't the worker's anymore, but the states, and if the state or its leadership decide that (for whatever reason) they need your industry to stay cheap and you need to work extra hours there's nothing you can do about it
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Feb 7, 2021 16:54
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Why? If the state has the power and the union doesn't do anything then why have a union. If the union has some power then what stops the workers from using that power if they joined it?
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Feb 7, 2021 17:01
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Grapplejack posted:The issue is that the power isn't the worker's anymore, but the states, and if the state or its leadership decide that (for whatever reason) they need your industry to stay cheap and you need to work extra hours there's nothing you can do about it How the deal was made and announced infuriated the workers. Early on the morning after the announcement, 3,000 workers and their families staged a demonstration in front of the main office carrying signs reading, “Jianlong, get out of Tonghua” and calling for a mass demonstration. A large number of demonstrators gathered and proceeded to the metallurgy section of the factory compound and succeeded in blocking the railway lines leading to the blast furnaces. By the early afternoon they had blocked all the railways and shut down all seven blast furnaces. The whole production of Tonghua came to a halt. When Chen, the newly appointed General Manager of Ton- ghua Steel from Jianlong Group, arrived with a team to talk to middle man- agement and staff representatives about ways to resume operations, a group of demonstrators rushed in and dragged Chen out of the room and later beat him to death. By early evening, nearly ten thousand workers gathered; they did not allow any government officials to enter the building. At around 9:00 in the evening, Tonghua Steel announced on television that the Jilin provincial government asked Jianlong to withdraw and never to participate in restructuring Tonghua Steel again. This is a rare case in which workers successfully blocked the privatization of their factory. Then, only one month later in August 2009, workers in Linzhou Steel in Henan Province were also able to block Fengbao Iron and Steel Company from acquiring their steel enterprise.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:05
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Grapplejack posted:The issue is that the power isn't the worker's anymore, but the states, and if the state or its leadership decide that (for whatever reason) they need your industry to stay cheap and you need to work extra hours there's nothing you can do about it You're essentially arguing for sentiment over observable data. Yes that could happen theoretically but in fact the opposite is happening. Why is that? As a member of the acftu you can do something about it because the acftu IS the state and reserves rights and privileges that would be otherwise impossible to guarantee for an independent union. At the end of the day democracy is about which groups are getting the resources they want. In China (and the other market socialists states) we see an increasing level of worker participation in unions along with increasing pay, welfare, and standard of living. In America and Europe we see ever decreasing levels of worker participation coupled with rising austerity. Despite the efforts of independent unions who are theoretically free of government control. (This assertation is itself a misunderstanding of how power works wrt class struggle) So why then does the Chinese union member win more labor disputes than he loses while the American loses more than he wins? Simple, the acftu in comparison with western unions, is more effectively able to throw it's weight around on behalf of the workers it represents.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:11
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The fact of the matter is the afctu has power independent from the CPC. This power, as in every union, is embodied in it's membership's loyalty and numbers. Sometimes the CPC does overrule the aftcu, but the acftu wins more than it loses. Precisely because the party understands the union's power and must think carefully before countermanding it. In the west there's no such respect because the state and capital can wait out the strikes of any single union.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:16
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Grapplejack posted:The issue is that the power isn't the worker's anymore, but the states, and if the state or its leadership decide that (for whatever reason) they need your industry to stay cheap and you need to work extra hours there's nothing you can do about it I think you are assuming the union mechanism still has this power of negotiation base guild price when in fact they no longer have that power after the adaptation of container shipping. Now the state (China particularly) can make its own industry extra competitive by giving a subsidy boost. The state can also keep the import tariff high to protect the domestic industries, but that power is still in the hands of the state not in the unions.
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Feb 7, 2021 17:28
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Chomskyan posted:Oh yeah, the modern relations of China/Vietnam are totally comparable to French colonization Restore Nanyue to its original borders, reclaim the last of the Ten Dynasties of Wudai
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Feb 7, 2021 17:37
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imagine a Eurasia thread where ultras were threadbanned
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Feb 7, 2021 17:42
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https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1358220700998242306
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Feb 7, 2021 22:21
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stephenthinkpad posted:The reinforced islands are entirely designed against the US military power in the SCS, because China doesn't need these islands to protect her fishing and oil drilling claims against Vietnam and Philippines. Keep in mind the US doesn't have any territorial claim in the SCS. Keep in mind that China's idea of "compromise" is that they will allow Vietnam to drill in their own EEZ unmolested by the Chinese navy, as long as they share the profits with a Chinese state company. The same is true for fishing, if other countries don't want Chinese coastguard vessels harassing local fisherman in their own territory they can simply sell fishing rights to the Chinese fishing fleets that are already pillaging their waters, and hey problem solved, they're now free to take whatever scraps are left. You can see how that worked for North Korea Though it's weird that you're knocking the USA for not putting more military resources in the region prior to China forcing out all other fisherman and building bases on top of the atolls and reefs. If it was China's intent to use the bases to reduce American naval presence in the SCS, their actions seemed to have the opposite effect.
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Feb 7, 2021 22:23
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je1 healthcare posted:Keep in mind that China's idea of "compromise" is that they will allow Vietnam to drill in their own EEZ unmolested by the Chinese navy, as long as they share the profits with a Chinese state company. The same is true for fishing, if other countries don't want Chinese coastguard vessels harassing local fisherman in their own territory they can simply sell fishing rights to the Chinese fishing fleets that are already pillaging their waters, and hey problem solved, they're now free to take whatever scraps are left. You can see how that worked for North Korea Well my point was china is willing to let the other SCS countries get a cut on their piece of the pie in the China-led Chinese version of Monroe Doctrine. quote:Though it's weird that you're knocking the USA for not putting more military resources in the region prior to China forcing out all other fisherman and building bases on top of the atolls and reefs. If it was China's intent to use the bases to reduce American naval presence in the SCS, their actions seemed to have the opposite effect. I am not "knocking" the US, I am just pointing out the US "freedom of navigation" didn't fight for the economic right of Philippine, they fight for the US military power sphere in the SCS, which is what this is about all along. The US only care about hold on to the First Island Chain, which has nothing to do with fishing right, or oil right, or anything small countries care about. It's all about placement of mid-range missiles and early radar system. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 00:35 on Feb 8, 2021 |
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Feb 8, 2021 00:02
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Youtube recommended me an all Singaporean diplomat round table on the Sino-US relationship, surprised Kishore Mahbubani was not the one with the most harsh words for the US foreign policy. That grandma ambassador did not hesitate to rip into the foreign policy of both trump admin and the Obama admin. Some choice words, "The US itself is not threaten by China, the threat is not to the US, but to the US accustomed place as the sole hegemon of the world...this kind of thinking deeply underlined the US strategic thinking." The Americans must make a distinction on what is more important, the primacy of their global system; or the well being of their people. It's actually their major strategic dilemma..." Also this "Western countries look only at the pimples on China's face, they are unable to look at the entire face." lolol
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Feb 8, 2021 00:34
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stephenthinkpad posted:
bad news, the US ruling class already decided what is more important.
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Feb 8, 2021 01:43
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mistermojo posted:this site rules http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1006755/my-workout-with-beijings-geriatric-gym-rats people do push-hands in Seattle in the early morning and it loving rules
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Feb 8, 2021 01:52
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https://twitter.com/Mahxism/status/1358203992254332928
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Feb 8, 2021 01:53
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same but yemen & USA+Saudi world leaders know that did you know that
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Feb 8, 2021 02:18
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je1 healthcare posted:You can see how that worked for North Korea Galaxy Brain: the U.S. should pivot to a pro-North Korean policy to contain China
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Feb 8, 2021 03:00
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Yes I believe china to be the forth reich Yes I fight this great evil by telling people to donate to orgs on the app tiktok We exist! We're serious people!
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Feb 8, 2021 03:09
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so is that the Falun Gong or ASPI twitter account
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Feb 8, 2021 03:10
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i always thought i would never hate the younger generations like the boomers hate us and then i see stuff like this
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Feb 8, 2021 03:12
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Some Guy TT posted:i always thought i would never hate the younger generations like the boomers hate us and then i see stuff like this kony 2012 stuff gave me the same vibes as this
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Feb 8, 2021 03:40
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Feb 8, 2021 03:41
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Some Guy TT posted:i always thought i would never hate the younger generations like the boomers hate us and then i see stuff like this Hating them would be like kicking a puppy.
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Feb 8, 2021 03:57
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https://twitter.com/JeannieSGersen/status/1358268441820602374 https://twitter.com/JeannieSGersen/status/1358269985928396800 https://twitter.com/JeannieSGersen/status/1358272791712301061 weirdly enough the reason I happened upon this thread was someone complaining about that last tweet because "comfort women" was not an atrocity inflicted exclusively on Korean women.
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Feb 8, 2021 03:58
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thats a pretty relevant caveat considering the overall argument it looks like shes saying comfort women were not abused by legal contracts and that the practice was intended as genocidal but that simply isnt true
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Feb 8, 2021 05:20
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to be clear this ramseyer guy is very wrong but this womans making the exact kind of overly broad statement that his kind of people like to argue against the japanese did the comfort women war crimes to deal with the specific problem of venereal disease in the military they didnt do it just to be assholes and making it an argument about intent is exactly what the japanese nationalists want because its a much higher burden of proof than just looking at what actually happened
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Feb 8, 2021 05:30
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je1 healthcare posted:Keep in mind that China's idea of "compromise" is that they will allow Vietnam to drill in their own EEZ unmolested by the Chinese navy, as long as they share the profits with a Chinese state company. The same is true for fishing, if other countries don't want Chinese coastguard vessels harassing local fisherman in their own territory they can simply sell fishing rights to the Chinese fishing fleets that are already pillaging their waters, and hey problem solved, they're now free to take whatever scraps are left. this sounds like racketeering on a bigger scale
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