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remember when charles kennedy was leader of the libdems lol
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Feb 8, 2021 01:25
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i say swears online posted:remember when charles kennedy was leader of the libdems lol  
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Feb 8, 2021 01:42
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tories in wellies overtaking tories in yellow?!
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i say swears online posted:remember when charles kennedy was leader of the libdems lol They had 62 seats back then!
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Feb 8, 2021 11:21
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i say swears online posted:remember when charles kennedy was leader of the libdems lol I remember when they turfed him out and replaced him with Ming Campbell and Nick Clegg lmao
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Feb 8, 2021 11:39
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how bad is your green party?
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Feb 8, 2021 11:42
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redleader posted:how bad is your green party? Run by champagne socialists mostly. I've considered quitting them a few times now, I didn't even vote for them at the last election. The leadership contest had an actual chance of replacing the leaders with a dude who seemed to actually have some passion but they managed to hold onto it somehow which is mad since they didn't even have the best green policies while Jeremy was leader, let alone anything else.
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Feb 8, 2021 11:50
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redleader posted:how bad is your green party? the English/Welsh one is pish, the Scottish one is quite good iirc
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Feb 8, 2021 11:51
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Dravs posted:Run by champagne socialists mostly. I've considered quitting them a few times now, I didn't even vote for them at the last election. I hope you're not talking about Shahrar Ali. Fucker decided to build his platform around hardline transphobia in order to appeal to the Tories-in-wellies faction.
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Feb 8, 2021 13:28
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redleader posted:how bad is your green party? they’re the kind of greens who want to ban halal and stop those “awful” affordable homes being built near their local golf course
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Feb 8, 2021 14:54
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They dropped their entire platform in the last election to run on a 'Remain alliance' with Lib Dems and ex-New Labour slugs who formed a party for the sole purpose of tanking Corbyn
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Feb 8, 2021 15:06
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when is the next general election in the UK? eternal lmao if Bojo rides the coronavirus to reelection. also eternal lmao if Keith stays as labo(u)rs option.
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Feb 8, 2021 15:09
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If the government really can crush the virus under a mass vaccination program the banter move would be another snap winter election at the end of the year, Kieth would probably get done as badly as Corbyn
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Feb 8, 2021 15:12
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multijoe posted:If the government really can crush the virus under a mass vaccination program the banter move would be another snap winter election at the end of the year, Kieth would probably get done as badly as Corbyn probably worse since he won't even get the youth vote, most of which will go to the SNP in Scotland and the Greens in England and Wales
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Feb 8, 2021 15:19
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B-but the centre ground! All those rational Neoliberal Dads and soft Tories who sworesies they'd vote Labour if only for that perfidious Corbyn! Surely that's enough! It's amazing how the Labour Right have so spectacularly hosed their own chances this hard by chasing utter delusion.
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Darth Walrus posted:I hope you're not talking about Shahrar Ali. Fucker decided to build his platform around hardline transphobia in order to appeal to the Tories-in-wellies faction. Can't remember his name, just remember he was trying to hold the leadership to account over a lovely campaign. Wasn't aware of that though, it doesn't surprise me with the state of the greens right now.
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Feb 8, 2021 15:38
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bedpan posted:when is the next general election in the UK? how long do you think the union'll hold
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Feb 8, 2021 15:58
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SteelMentor posted:B-but the centre ground! All those rational Neoliberal Dads and soft Tories who sworesies they'd vote Labour if only for that perfidious Corbyn! Surely that's enough! The labour right want to be in charge of something, anything at all, so torching the parties election chances to then take over is fine with them
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Feb 8, 2021 16:00
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Wanting to be in charge of your own self destruction, in entirety while ruining as many people as you can drag down with you, is some ascendant form of nihilism.
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Feb 8, 2021 16:04
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redleader posted:how bad is your green party? Scottish Greens are not perfect but definitely closest we have to a socialist option in our Parliament. That they also support the break up of the UK and Scottish independence is an added bonus. I hope they pick up seats in May's election which would mean Scottish National Party members finally understanding how to vote efficiently for pro indy parties. Unfortunately this probably doesn't happen because SNP voters are fairly cultish
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Feb 8, 2021 16:10
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I've heard it said that the additional member system was chosen for Holyrood to keep the SNP from getting a majority, but why choose a system that can be gamed if independence is your priority by voting smaller indy parties in the list? What's the advantage over, say, STV? And why has there been so little effort to encourage that gaming? Obviously the SNP leadership have a duty to their list candidates and won't tell you to vote for someone else, but I'd have thought there'd be more of a grassroots campaign to do that
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bitterandtwisted posted:I've heard it said that the additional member system was chosen for Holyrood to keep the SNP from getting a majority, but why choose a system that can be gamed if independence is your priority by voting smaller indy parties in the list? What's the advantage over, say, STV? Well if you go back to the devolution referendum there really weren't any meaningful wee parties. In '99 the Greens won 1 seat, the Scottish Socialists won 1 and there was 1 other independent (who had been Labour MP but he was too left wing so they'd not let him stand at Holyrood and he crushed the chosen Blairite empty suit). Every other MSP was Labour, SNP, Tory or Liberal. I think after the indy ref people kind of forgot how the electoral system works and decided to just vote SNP/SNP. And yeah, they really need to get on with a campaign to go SNP/Green or SNP/...I dunno. RISE seems to have failed as a unified socialist ticket so i guess the Trot SSP or Solidarity assuming Tommy Sheridan hasn't given up his vanity project. Meanwhile the chuckles are brought by George Galloway's Alliance 4 Unity pointless unionist party. Which contains inbred Old Etonians, Tommy Robinson supporters and the founder of UKIP.
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Feb 8, 2021 17:59
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SteelMentor posted:B-but the centre ground! All those rational Neoliberal Dads and soft Tories who sworesies they'd vote Labour if only for that perfidious Corbyn! Surely that's enough! the goal of the center isn't to win elections it's to win approval of the media classes and coast into consulting sinecures
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Feb 8, 2021 18:05
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someone itt posted that the blairites are "people who wanted 'a career in politics but didn't have the family connections or old money to join the tories'" and that sounds like a perfect summary of both them and the republicans
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Feb 8, 2021 18:07
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multijoe posted:Kieth would probably get done as badly as Corbyn in 2020 I begrudgingly expected Starmer to win and now I'll be amazed if he gets 30%. He peaked when he claimed he was also a socialist and started collapsing when it became obvious he was lying.
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Feb 8, 2021 18:29
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It's cool he's not even been hit by a single major scandal, he's just been slowly deflating like a flat tyre as people realise what a waste of space he is
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Feb 8, 2021 18:35
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multijoe posted:It's cool he's not even been hit by a single major scandal, he's just been slowly deflating like a flat tyre as people realise what a waste of space he is
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Feb 8, 2021 18:42
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Less exciting than the guy who in his wild youth biked through Eastern Europe taking pictures of manhole covers. labour came so close to winning the 2017 GE with the single most boring motherfucker in politics since john major e; imagine what happens when we find a competent leftist who would count as exciting in normal life
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Spangly A posted:e; imagine what happens when we find a competent leftist who would count as exciting in normal life those all die in south america or on the streets at home
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Feb 8, 2021 19:06
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autoerotically padlocks themself in a duffel bag and antisemitically stabs themself in the back like the nazis said the media did to germany
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Feb 8, 2021 19:21
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Starmer will win if the UK grants flags voting rights
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Feb 8, 2021 19:32
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Hey, you guys are going to be getting some cheap shellfish soon. https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1358848568178716673
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Feb 8, 2021 20:00
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if this ironically saves the coastal sealife for future generations i’ll laugh
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Feb 8, 2021 20:03
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Atrocious Joe posted:Starmer will win if the UK grants flags voting rights he's going to offer to take that whole school meal issue off the conservative's hands and deal with it himself instead of food, families are now getting UK flags and a paper sheet that says "skills wallets"
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Feb 8, 2021 20:09
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prefect posted:Hey, you guys are going to be getting some cheap shellfish soon. alive, alive oh
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AHAHAHAHA
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