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spacemang_spliff posted:even better is that the minimum wage hike (over the next 7 years) will be taken out of the final bill because democrats are too afraid that Manchin can't sell "We're going to make sure you get paid more" in one of the most impoverished states in the country. he literally said paying people would destroy West Virginia lmao
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Complications posted:It's amazing that Trump plus a Republican Senate got us 1800 + 600 in unemployment supplement, and the D's with control of Congress and the presidency are negotiating down from 1400/400. I just have to laugh.
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Trump was also the one that brought $2000 checks into play in the first place, lmao. President Manchin is a dumbfuck and bringing the whole party down because he wants the worst for West Virginia, lmao.
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Feb 9, 2021 02:38
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Delta-Wye posted:these people are in crisis and finally ready to receive the one true religion. Fascism?
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euphronius posted:he literally said paying people would destroy West Virginia lmao Too late
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Fascism? 
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Private Cumshoe posted:If you lift West Virginians out of poverty, what of note will they have left other than Joe Manchin? How loving hard can it be to sell "were gonna take some money from the coastal elites that they don't deserve anyways and give it to you"? If only they'd fuckin dare.
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Feb 9, 2021 03:07
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euphronius posted:he literally said paying people would destroy West Virginia lmao lmao
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Fame Douglas posted:Trump was also the one that brought $2000 checks into play in the first place, lmao. but if you ever suggest ousting him boy do liberals throw a shitfit
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Yinlock posted:but if you ever suggest ousting him boy do liberals throw a shitfit Akshually, Joe Manchin is a miracle worker because he's a Democrat in a seat that was previously held by a Democrat. And by a Democrat before that.
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Yinlock posted:but if you ever suggest ousting him boy do liberals throw a shitfit you have to support joe manchin because better things arent possible
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Delta-Wye posted:How loving hard can it be to sell "were gonna take some money from the coastal elites that they don't deserve anyways and give it to you"? If only they'd fuckin dare. Unless it's explicitly "whites only" I think a lot of chuds would rather die
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Feb 9, 2021 03:12
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Delta-Wye posted:everytime i think about how they are means testing what crumbs we may get in the future based on your 2019 taxes i laugh heartedly. I read a post on twitter with someone saying that their wife got a payout for sexual assault and now they're not eligible for the $breadcrumbs because the government treats the payout as income.
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Feb 9, 2021 03:52
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Fame Douglas posted:Trump was also the one that brought $2000 checks into play in the first place, lmao. no I mean the dems in the house did pass an enourmous bailout for people last May there was lots of stuff in it
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Feb 9, 2021 03:53
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euphronius posted:no they passed a good bailout because they knew it wouldn't become law
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Shear Modulus posted:they passed a good bailout because they knew it wouldn't become law maybe idk
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Feb 9, 2021 03:55
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Fuckin Democrats man The last time they had the majority and the Presidency they passed the most bullshit milquetoast health legislation they could. Like compare and contrast the Congress that resulted from the 2002 elections and just how severely they passed an agenda based on hate and fear.
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there are actual leftists in the dem caucus it’s hard for me to come to general motive conclusions like that I mean if you mean pelosi let the vote even happen because she knew it would fail then that’s way more probably
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euphronius posted:there are actual leftists in the dem caucus it’s hard for me to come to general motive conclusions like that yeah that's what i mean nothing gets voted on without pelosi's say so that's how congress works
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I read a post on twitter with someone saying that their wife got a payout for sexual assault and now they're not eligible for the $breadcrumbs because the government treats the payout as income. Antifa Turkeesian posted:Fascism? quick, dm them some boogaloo propaganda
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Feb 9, 2021 04:07
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euphronius posted:maybe idk lol it's literally what they do every time they don't really have power they'll say they want good thing but then as soon as they're in the position to deliver good thing, well actually good thing was never on the table and they need to be strategic otherwise the badmen will take power again! Kamala Harris loving cosigned M4A when she knew the bill was DOA
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Coolness Averted posted:lol it's literally what they do every time they don't really have power I posted a nuance after that
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Feb 9, 2021 04:09
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yeah but it still seems like you're saying "Not all democrats.." as if 5 or 6 good ones somehow make the institution they're part of not poo poo. Hopefully those leftists wind up reforming or splintering the party instead of getting subverted by the machine but it's also not like we have a 20 year time table for that anymore
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no we are hosed lol
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I'm also talking about the party's institutional goals like we might be in agreement here just talking past each other edit: ah good to know yeah we're on the same page
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euphronius posted:there are actual leftists in the dem caucus Yeah I used to think that too.
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euphronius posted:maybe idk there's no "idk" about it, it's their favorite tactic just look at any state where they lose power, suddenly you have single payer bills passing comfortably, minimum wage hikes, all those magic money trees growing overnight and then the voters get them back into power and the first thing dems do is take out their axes and cut down the trees edit: if by actual leftist you're talking about aoc, she's spending her time killing any hope for m4a in the middle of a pandemic lol
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yeah it's totally AOC that's killing any hope of M4A not Pelosi, Biden, Harris and the senate all saying they will fight the policy to the death
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it's cool if you have problems with AOC or Bernie, there's a lot of lovely things they support and times they've played ball when they shouldn't have but "they aren't forcing a vote on DOA legislation!" is the battlecry of a mark
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Coolness Averted posted:yeah it's totally AOC that's killing any hope of M4A not Pelosi, Biden, Harris and the senate all saying they will fight the policy to the death then it's AOC's job to fight to the loving death, not roll over like a dog for geriatric austerity fetishists and become an accessory to the countless deaths every year from our miserable healthcare system 
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Coolness Averted posted:yeah it's totally AOC that's killing any hope of M4A not Pelosi, Biden, Harris and the senate all saying they will fight the policy to the death Coolness Averted posted:it's cool if you have problems with AOC or Bernie, there's a lot of lovely things they support and times they've played ball when they shouldn't have but "they aren't forcing a vote on DOA legislation!" is the battlecry of a mark source ure succ
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Coolness Averted posted:it's cool if you have problems with AOC or Bernie, there's a lot of lovely things they support and times they've played ball when they shouldn't have but "they aren't forcing a vote on DOA legislation!" is the battlecry of a mark Nah
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Feb 9, 2021 09:27
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Coolness Averted posted:it's cool if you have problems with AOC or Bernie, there's a lot of lovely things they support and times they've played ball when they shouldn't have but "they aren't forcing a vote on DOA legislation!" is the battlecry of a mark dumbass
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Coolness Averted posted:yeah it's totally AOC that's killing any hope of M4A not Pelosi, Biden, Harris and the senate all saying they will fight the policy to the death All cops are NOT bastards, I know a few good ones, and furthermore
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Taintrunner posted:dumbass lol you're going to die on the toilet from a heart attack in your 40's screaming about libs like some kinda horseshoe version of brietbart
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Coolness Averted posted:lol you're going to die on the toilet from a heart attack in your 40's screaming about libs like some kinda horseshoe version of brietbart except I would be right, unlike you, you loving intellectual embarrassment.
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Taintrunner posted:except I would be right, unlike you, you loving intellectual embarrassment. Can't we just enjoy a tasty not-bitter presidential pilsner together?
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it's inoffensive! a flavorless american rice pilsner is totally the biden of beers, especially if it's from a brewery that's been consistently poo poo for decades
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i'd be thrilled to be wrong about the dems. it would be much better if i was mistaken all along and they weren't completely worthless amoral lackeys for billionaire donors. being right about this provides no actual benefits or options for me.
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Coolness Averted posted:yeah it's totally AOC that's killing any hope of M4A not Pelosi, Biden, Harris and the senate all saying they will fight the policy to the death Coolness Averted posted:it's cool if you have problems with AOC or Bernie, there's a lot of lovely things they support and times they've played ball when they shouldn't have but "they aren't forcing a vote on DOA legislation!" is the battlecry of a mark no surprise that you're into someone averting cool things
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