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Platystemon posted:Personal I was googling these like a year ago but they all seem to cost a crazy amount and require a subscription which costs as much as the device. Is there some sort of cheaper version I'm not aware of? I'll probably suck up the cost if I ever do a trip which is 2-4 weeks long hemale in pain fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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hemale in pain posted:I was googling these like a year ago but they all seem to cost a crazy amount and require a subscription which costs as much as the device. Is there some sort of cheaper version I'm not aware of? These ones don't require a subscription: https://www.rei.com/product/161982/acr-electronics-resqlink-400-personal-locator-beacon Expensive, yeah, but the subscription-required satellite messengers are just as expensive, if not more.
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hemale in pain posted:I was googling these like a year ago but they all seem to cost a crazy amount and require a subscription which costs as much as the device. Is there some sort of cheaper version I'm not aware of? Locator beacons always seem to cost a fair amount, but a subscription definitely isn't necessary. $2-300 seems like standard pricing, and they last like 5 years or something before you have to replace the battery.
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Be careful, though, Locator Beacons are idiotically banned in some countries (like Japan, where they carry a massive fine).
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Feb 9, 2021 16:15
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If I ever get the chance to do some more solo travelling for wildlife photography, I think I'll pick up a Garmin InReach. It's two way communication and you can get a single month subscription. Compared to the rest of the cost of trips, it's not really that much compared to the potential benefit if something does go wrong.
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Thanks for the explanations. I found this PLB. If I ever attempt something like the highland 550 i'll get it or something similiar.
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Feb 9, 2021 16:50
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gschmidl posted:Locator Beacons are idiotically banned in some countries Why?
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Feb 9, 2021 17:57
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There is no honor in requiring rescue. Edit: fucks with the nanobots
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According to some random page I googled, radio licensing requirements for the ones that broadcast a radio signal: https://hokkaidowilds.org/can-use-plb-japan But that's just for ones that broadcast a
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:There is no honor in requiring rescue. I suppose Klingons don't use them either then.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I suppose Klingons don't use them either then. Klingons act without honor all the time, it's just that our exposure to them is largely through the eyes of Worf, who was raised by Russians and is a bit of a Kleeaboo
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Feb 9, 2021 18:42
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While the Japan thing sounds bureaucratic, some countries just don't like technology that empowers or allows people to bypass their control. https://blog.telestial.com/2017/11/countries-where-satellite-phones-banned-or-restricted/ China fucks with it's maps so GPS never lines up (unless it's an approved device that also fucks with the coordinates). Don't get caught using unofficial maps... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Di-UVC-_4
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Pablo Bluth posted:China fucks with it's maps so GPS never lines up (unless it's an approved device that also fucks with the coordinates). Don't get caught using unofficial maps... what the hell
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The worst part about living in China was no Pokémon Go. Also a bunch of other stuff. But the lack of Pokémon Go in spring of 2016 was a bummer.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:The worst part about living in China was no Pokémon Go. Also a bunch of other stuff. But the lack of Pokémon Go in spring of 2016 was a bummer. Tank man was just looking for a rare squirtle.
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Outrail posted:Tank man was just looking for a rare squirtle. Aren't we all. I actually did get it to work for exactly thirteen hours one day and caught an Eggsecute on a Chengdu local bus. The next day it wouldn't work at all. Mysterious!
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So ultimately whatever map you use will give you correct directions to where you want to go but the exact GPS coordinates will be wrong?
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If you tried to navigate to a geodetic coordinate (without doing the coordinate system transformation), it would take you to the wrong location. If you asked it to take you to the local bank, that would work because it's using topographical network data about the actual roads and paths to navigate you to that bank. Also, the GPS company I work at changed up their simulated feeds when Pokemon Go dropped, you could basically teleport around to stops and pokemon locations, it was hilarious.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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hemale in pain posted:I was googling these like a year ago but they all seem to cost a crazy amount and require a subscription which costs as much as the device. Is there some sort of cheaper version I'm not aware of? Renting is also an option.
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:Cool. Let us know if you find anything interesting! She gets murdered literally every time Whereas I, a brainsmart lady, hit local trails geared up like I'm Black Ops in a North Korean blacksite (nah jk I do carry a knife, pepper spray, nav and phone)
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It’s time for another instalment of ill‐prepared German tourists in the American Southwest.quote:I was in the Gila Wilderness and a convoy of us campers/fishers were making the drive on the dirt road from Mogollon to Snow Lake when we spotted a forest ranger guy pulled over looking in a ditch. Turns out some idiot tried to make a u-turn and didn't realize the loose rock makes it hard to stop - they went over the edge and high-centered. quote:German tourists are....different.
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On a family holiday in the days before fancy smartphones, we got stranded in Eureka Valley in the middle of summer - it's a remote part of Death Valley national park. We had hired a 4x4 but for whatever reason (we found out later), it had been fitted with 3 ply tyres, so the hot gravel track to the dunes basically cut straight through the tyres and popped em. After fitting the spare in well over 100 fahrenheit/40C weather, we trundled back the main/only road and waited there for somebody to pass. I think we were there for like 6 hours before a car came, and obviously the passengers were French and spoke zero English, but nevertheless we managed to transmit that we were stuck. Queue more hours waiting and eventually a tow truck came from the nearest town. The tow guy said we were insanely lucky because often there wasn't a single car down that road for days at a time, and that the last people to get stuck there were there for 3 days. All in all, stupid Europeans being the only people doing anything in Death Valley tracks. Roads without people on them for days practically don't even exist here.
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Jr. posted:She gets murdered literally every time A gun is pretty unnecessary unless you plan on hitting the trail in Syria or strolling with wild abandon outside Joburg. Maybe in bear country, but if you’re living in Alaska and wander around the wilderness there you probably shouldn’t listen to my advice. I do usually carry a knife, phone, map and compass if I’m going out for a whole day.
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As a German let me tell you I am not surprised by the stories. We don't have actual wilderness here. When you go hiking on normal trails (read gravel paths basically) that don't require climbing gear in the Alps, wearing hiking boots and a backpack with water, food, clothes and a first aid kit as you should, you frequently meet other "hikers" that took the gongola up because they only want to walk down... carrying a purse and wearing open shoes, sometimes flip-flops, and looking at their phone on a path that needs at least proper shoes and better yet hiking sticks. But hey its so easy to go up via gondola hehe, and getting down is a cakewalk anyway, right? What can go wrong.
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Hopper posted:As a German let me tell you I am not surprised by the stories. We don't have actual wilderness here.  I'm from the UK, where the 'countryside' is generally only marginally more dangerous, wild and uninhabited than your average city park (of course that makes the bits that actually are a bit risky all the more pernicious, so you get people who need rescuing after trying to climb a tor on Dartmoor in October in T-shirt, shorts and sandals without even a water bottle and a wind-cheater...). I like to think I'm fairly well informed about American geography - I 'know' large parts of it are very, very empty, and I know you can't ask your friend who's moved to LA to meet you for lunch in St Louis while you're at Disney World.... But every time I've been to North America the sheer scale of everything catches me out in some way. It's not just a big place, but it's the low density - how much empty space is between 'stuff' - in a lot of it. When I was in Canada we went to a great local restaurant in 'the next town over'. Which was over an hour's drive away. That's virtually a road trip in the UK, and certainly enough time to drive through several dozen decent-size towns. Platystemon posted:It also works in reverse. These poignant ones always get to me. The ones - again, seemingly particular to North America - where people die 'wilderness' deaths on the fringes of suburbia, often in regular cellphone contact with people trying to help them, are especially haunting. I guess it just emphasises how things can go wrong so quickly. A historical one like that is the Tragedy at Kufra where three bombers get lost over the Libyan desert in WW2, despite being in radio contact with their base. All three put down in the desert and over the next few days they make a series of flights to try and reach their airfield. All the while they are in (weak) radio contact with base, but the aircraft crews are thoroughly disoriented and lost, and can't even agree exactly where they are, which plagues efforts to search for them. Weather conditions and a severe lack of survival equipment and training do the rest and only one of the 12 aircrew survives.
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Yeah, if you ever want a real dose of how empty parts of the US can be, drive Salt Lake City to Reno. ~8 hours driving through the high desert, and you'll hit places where they have 'last gas for 100 miles' signs and mean it. Beautiful, if unnerving at night.
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Always take your katana on walkies, it is a perfect hiking tool that will protect your honor from any wandering ronin you might meet on the trail
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Liquid Communism posted:Yeah, if you ever want a real dose of how empty parts of the US can be, drive Salt Lake City to Reno. ~8 hours driving through the high desert, and you'll hit places where they have 'last gas for 100 miles' signs and mean it. Beautiful, if unnerving at night. This right here is part of why I specifically looked for a hybrid, living in the west. I got lucky a couple times going across the country; never again.
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I remember driving with a boyfriend from Chicago to Macomb, Illinois. It wasn't a hugely long drive but boy there was just nothing there for so long. It was January so there was no corn and it looked like the drat Moon. I saw a hill once and watched it go by for minutes on end. That old cliche is 'The British think 100 miles is a long way, and Americans think 100 years is a long time' and it's held absolutely true. My brother's about to move 200 miles away to Hull and my mum is distraught.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Always take your katana on walkies, it is a perfect hiking tool that will protect your honor from any wandering ronin you might meet on the trail i only hike in full knight's armor with a claymore. i walk along and challenge everything that moves to meet me on the field of mortal combat. very hard to see out the helmet though so often dueling chipmunks etc
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BalloonFish posted:These poignant ones always get to me. The ones - again, seemingly particular to North America - where people die 'wilderness' deaths on the fringes of suburbia, often in regular cellphone contact with people trying to help them, are especially haunting. I guess it just emphasises how things can go wrong so quickly. Cullen Finnerty. Who were those two guys he saw? Very interesting final phone conversation. They obviously killed him, but how?
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Trained yetis, duh. https://rockandice.com/climbing-news/2021-everest-season-in-limbo-as-pandemic-rages-on/ Looks like 2021 might be a slow Everest year. But companies that don't give a poo poo about covid probably don't give a poo poo about other safety aspects so I'm sure there'll be a satisfactory addition of colorful rich dumb rear end in a top hat corpses to rainbow valley.
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Hopper posted:As a German let me tell you I am not surprised by the stories. We don't have actual wilderness here. Please explain y'all's outfits, or lack thereof, in American nature. There's always naked Germans somewhere. When I was in the Grand Canyon in 2019 it was really, really obvious that lots of Europe doesn't have much true wilderness by how many people did not bring a flashlight and just followed me, a headlamp-haver, to the parking lot shuttle after the sun had set, in a place that was celebrating its Dark Sky status. I mostly spoke with the French- and German- speaking people, didn't want to talk to other Russians because they loving suck ("oh look how fat that man is, this clerk is so slow, the food we got was terrible, I can't believe how late the shuttle is," etc). SpaceSDoorGunner posted:A gun is pretty unnecessary unless you plan on hitting the trail in Syria or strolling with wild abandon outside Joburg.  ... that's what I said? Maybe the sarcasm didn't parse, apologies. This being the Everest thread and not Post Your Hiking Loadout, it sounded like someone was clowning OP for not having a PLB which while great, is very expensive, and shouldn't keep you from going out and actually learning to be a smart and proficient outdoorsperson (ie, avoid situations that require you to need a PLB). Just smacked of that gross hobby gatekeeping where if you don't have expensive gear you shouldn't bother. We all know gear does not a good adventurer make. (the actual secret is photoshopping yourself in front of Lake Louise) e: 2019 was not last year AveMachina fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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I'd never hike with a gun unless I plan on eating something or its deep backcountry grizzly territory. But I guess a revolver with a single bullet could be a cost effective replacement for a PLB.
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I just watched Death Wish III, so I guess I'd buy a .475 Wildey Magnum. And some Birkenstocks.
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busalover posted:I just watched Death Wish III, so I guess I'd buy a .475 Wildey Magnum. And some Birkenstocks. Bubble gun and stilettos
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BalloonFish posted:These poignant ones always get to me. The ones - again, seemingly particular to North America - where people die 'wilderness' deaths on the fringes of suburbia, often in regular cellphone contact with people trying to help them, are especially haunting. I guess it just emphasises how things can go wrong so quickly. I hate that McCandless ended up getting mythologized as the ideal modern wilderness explorer when he was a delusional or possibly mentally ill young adult who basically lived only because he was lucky, not because he had any skill, training, or experience. IIRC he refused help from seasoned wilderness people including the locals who actually lived there and told him he wasn't prepared. Didn't they demolish the road and take down the signs leading to where he died because too many similar idiots also tried to make "pilgrimages" and some of them made the same mistakes he did and died?
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They removed the bus. There was no road to begin with, that was part of the problem. Efb
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