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you dont want freshwater going in your mouth untreated in general. lots of nasty stuff in there. even out in "pristine" wilderness.
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:Wait, the fish egg thing is bad for you? They hatch inside you and eat their way out through your chest.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:41
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Get you summa dat beaver fever.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:42
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punishedkissinger posted:you dont want freshwater going in your mouth untreated in general. lots of nasty stuff in there. even out in "pristine" wilderness.
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Feb 11, 2021 21:53
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Anne Whateley posted:There are like five thousand other ways they could die, including exposure, falling off stuff, fires, hantavirus, snakes, pumas, chopping off limbs, or just drinking untreated water or squirting fish eggs into your mouth. I don't get why bears would be the dividing line. wouldn't that just be further reason to think it's staged?
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Feb 11, 2021 22:00
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Rinkles posted:wouldn't that just be further reason to think it's staged? I mean I saw one lady cut the poo poo out of her hand with an axe. That didn't look staged. Why would you think it's staged? People camp in woods like that all the time. Things can go wrong and people can get hurt in lots of these kinds of reality shows.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:02
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maybe. i don't really watch much reality tv. i'm surprised they're so cavalier with the contestants' safety, that's all.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:05
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Anne Whateley posted:There are like five thousand other ways they could die, including exposure, falling off stuff, fires, hantavirus, snakes, pumas, chopping off limbs, or just drinking untreated water or squirting fish eggs into your mouth. I don't get why bears would be the dividing line. The way that I understand poo poo like this is that it's all about everyone going in with their eyes open, understanding the risk involved and judging that the risk is worth the compensation. I'm sure the contracts and waivers they have to sign are both voluminous and legally airtight so long as they gave them the proper equipment, made sure they had the knowledge to handle being around bears, and didn't do anything sinister like tell them they're going somewhere without bears and then airdrop them into the Yukon or some poo poo. I don't know why this would be any different than a stunt performer, who get injured on the job all the drat time.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:06
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emf posted:lol  
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Rinkles posted:maybe. i don't really watch much reality tv. i'm surprised they're so cavalier with the contestants' safety, that's all. ahahahahahahahahahahaha yeah known good people network executives they'd bait the bears to get near the tent and kill them on camera if they thought it'd make them more money and they could get away with it
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Feb 11, 2021 22:07
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punishedkissinger posted:you dont want freshwater going in your mouth untreated in general. lots of nasty stuff in there. even out in "pristine" wilderness. Lol yeah, even if it looks crystal clear, it can be a bad idea unless you have no other options. This is freshwater aquarium safety 101, I still remember the day I saw a pic of a hand half-eaten by bacteria, from a guy who stuck it onto his aquarium for maintenance while having an open wound 
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Feb 11, 2021 22:12
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Outrail posted:They hatch inside you and eat their way out through your chest. How the hell do they survive the stomach acid? 
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Feb 11, 2021 22:21
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gloom posted:By any chance, is this also why freshwater fish aren't really eaten raw like in sashimi / sushi? that would make sense but tbh i do not know
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Feb 11, 2021 22:23
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Propaganda Machine posted:How the hell do they survive the stomach acid? 
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Feb 11, 2021 22:28
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punishedkissinger posted:you dont want freshwater going in your mouth untreated in general. lots of nasty stuff in there. even out in "pristine" wilderness. Depends where you are really. I live in Norway and my drinking water comes straight out of a river untreated.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:28
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Propaganda Machine posted:How the hell do they survive the stomach acid? Very carefully
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Feb 11, 2021 22:29
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Scarodactyl posted:This is a joke wrt to fish but oddly not a joke wrt cheese maggots. wait, my over-imaginative, paranoid 5 year old self was right?
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Feb 11, 2021 22:32
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gloom posted:By any chance, is this also why freshwater fish aren't really eaten raw like in sashimi / sushi? After a few minutes of googling, it looks like the reason is that, while both fresh and saltwater fish commonly have parasites, more of the parasites in freshwater fish can survive the conditions of a human body. Also, ocean fish is now commonly frozen right after it's caught, killing off anything that could otherwise hurt you (unless it's toxins from an algal bloom or something, that isn't destroyed by cold or cooking.) However, unagi is (supposed to be) freshwater eel, and salmon is of course anadromous, so it may be caught in its freshwater phase.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:32
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Scarodactyl posted:This is a joke wrt to fish but oddly not a joke wrt cheese maggots. Yeah, should have known better. Both wrt the fish and googling cheese maggots.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:33
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Rinkles posted:maybe. i don't really watch much reality tv. i'm surprised they're so cavalier with the contestants' safety, that's all.
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Feb 11, 2021 22:39
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i like nice words
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Azathoth posted:The way that I understand poo poo like this is that it's all about everyone going in with their eyes open, understanding the risk involved and judging that the risk is worth the compensation. I'm imagining the contestant parachuting directly into a bear's mouth.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:07
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Shellception posted:Lol yeah, even if it looks crystal clear, it can be a bad idea unless you have no other options. This is freshwater aquarium safety 101, I still remember the day I saw a pic of a hand half-eaten by bacteria, from a guy who stuck it onto his aquarium for maintenance while having an open wound I don't understand. Don't antibiotics solve this problem?
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Feb 11, 2021 23:15
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I can't speak for Alone, but Ultimate Survival Alaska was very staged
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Feb 11, 2021 23:15
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Rinkles posted:maybe. i don't really watch much reality tv. i'm surprised they're so cavalier with the contestants' safety, that's all. It is a lot less "reality tv" than it is "video logs of people stuck in similar lovely situations". It's all self-filmed. It's just some cold people with not much equipment trying to get enough food to eat, mostly. They're not in any more danger than anyone else camping alone in the same area. That's more than they get performing in front of a studio audience, but still a level of risk that many people literally live their whole lives in, in first world countries (Canada).
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Feb 11, 2021 23:26
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The reason you don’t (commonly) eat freshwater fish raw vs saltwater fish is mostly parasites. Same as pork vs beef. Cow parasites don’t do anything to humans, versus pig ones can literally lay eggs in your brain.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:31
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When I think of all the times I went creek swimming as a kid, I must have been extremely lucky or had a hell of an immune system
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Feb 11, 2021 23:41
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Phy posted:After a few minutes of googling, it looks like the reason is that, while both fresh and saltwater fish commonly have parasites, more of the parasites in freshwater fish can survive the conditions of a human body. Also, ocean fish is now commonly frozen right after it's caught, killing off anything that could otherwise hurt you (unless it's toxins from an algal bloom or something, that isn't destroyed by cold or cooking.)
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Feb 11, 2021 23:44
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:When I think of all the times I went creek swimming as a kid, I must have been extremely lucky or had a hell of an immune system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb1kqy-bk_4
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Feb 11, 2021 23:45
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The Mash posted:I don't understand. Don't antibiotics solve this problem? That depends on how quickly you start treatment, and which bacteria are involved. Not all bacteria are easily killed by antibiotics.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:45
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The contestants on Alone are almost certainly safer than even people living in the same area, due to being required to carry on their person a transponder/satphone, with a recovery team no more than 1 hour away. A local in a cabin on the other side of the mountains from them would probably love to get 911 service with max 60 minute response time.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:47
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I don’t think alone is staged its often very very boring and you can tell some of the people who won were really not liked by the editors lol. I’m sure I’m naive but I think they just tell em to ham it up.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:49
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It seems like there would be less producer fuckery because of the sheer mass of footage Alone produces. You can easily make anyone look hypercompetent or sympathetic or jerky just in the edit, whatever you want without needing to airdrop a crate of wolverines on them.
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Feb 11, 2021 23:59
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crazy eyes mustafa posted:When I think of all the times I went creek swimming as a kid, I must have been extremely lucky or had a hell of an immune system You’re fine, as long as you’re not gulping down the river water or in an area with lots of livestock runoff.
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theflyingexecutive posted:to airdrop a crate of wolverines on them. holy gently caress I'd watch that
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Am I too late for bear chat? Whatever you do, don’t just stand there to take a selfie with the bear, c’mon https://youtu.be/ZD7zdse49q8 It’s said that this is the same bear, now in a straight up neighborhood of a huge city https://youtu.be/SFNwrzSQ5f8 There’s lots of videos of bears invading homes in this city, i thought this was one of the funniest because they pan over to the grill cook’s face as the bear goes hog wild https://youtu.be/HFZFIZ6XIcs
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Shellception posted:Lol yeah, even if it looks crystal clear, it can be a bad idea unless you have no other options. This is freshwater aquarium safety 101, I still remember the day I saw a pic of a hand half-eaten by bacteria, from a guy who stuck it onto his aquarium for maintenance while having an open wound I don't know why people default to fish as the easy pet for kids  Goldfish in particular are some of the messiest, dirtiest fish you can own - they need almost double the tank space of every other similarly sized fish just because of all the poo poo they put out. Don't get goldfish for indoor tanks, even those really smushed up pug ones. I had a teacher at school who claimed that he'd drink dirty water over clear water in a survival situation - his logic was that he has a rough idea of what bacteria and parasites he's risking with the dirty water, but the clear stuff could only be clear if it had something in it that killed all those things, and he'd have no idea if it could kill him too. He grew up in an industrial town so I guess chemical run-off into the water was an issue at the time? Pyrotoad fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Feb 12, 2021 |
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There are places where the water is clear because it’s snow melt and it came from one kilometre up the mountain you’re hiking up or whatever. Foregoing that to drink the closest bog water would not be a good idea.
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Feb 12, 2021 00:47
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Platystemon posted:There are places where the water is clear because it’s snow melt and it came from one kilometre up the mountain you’re hiking up or whatever. Yeah, I have family in Canada who get their water from a well fed by that melt and it doesn't need any treating. Maybe he just liked the taste and tried to justify it later, I dunno. Have a sip. 
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Pyrotoad posted:I don't know why people default to fish as the easy pet for kids that teacher is a dumbass and would be making GBS threads himself to death in like 1 day if he ever went hiking
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Pyrotoad posted:I don't know why people default to fish as the easy pet for kids 
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