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It is clear that the hopers primary aggravation comes from not being able to infect healthy doomers and get them hooked on hope.
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Well, the UK will have COVID forever, because the US will literally never get rid of it, and we're just gonna pass it back and forth forever and ever, permanently mutating betwixt the two as more and more countries close their borders to the US and UK until we can only move freely between one another, closing a 500 year loop
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Simple fact is, the UK is tired of experts and has voted for Hard Corona.
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i apologize UK thread for going on this covid tangent in the UK thread to make amends i made you this acrostic poem
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all i care about is whether there will be adequate sex arses in the near future.
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*gollum looks fearfully at Boris Johnson* "What's brexit, precious? What's brexit, eh?" *Boris looks glumly into the fire* "Lovely big golden chips with a nice bit of fried fish"
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namesake posted:No you're right, I guess nothing positive can happen and all regulatory bodies everywhere are completely captured by the industry so everyone gets taken at their word in this incredibly visible and crucial medical rollout. Yup. If the regulatory bodies were functional there would be a chance but as is the UK and US have created the perfect storm to keep this disease around.
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The vaccine rollout graphs all look like that economy projections graph. That's not a coincidence.
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The vaccine, combined with a lockdown and a robust test & trace system would almost certainly work, and where it's too late to avoid too many deaths to accurately count, it's not too late to get this fucker under control. Relying on the vaccine by itself to stay effective long enough to finish the rollout in the current conditions is very risky. Might as well declare it's over by Easter based on your say-so.
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a test and what system? is this some continental invention
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Will there be adequate tunnel? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/14/rail-bosses-revive-plan-to-build-tunnel-from-scotland-to-northern-ireland
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shirts and skins posted:Will there be adequate tunnel?
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https://twitter.com/TheScotsman/status/1360936574557560832 Scotland + Out ("Oot") = Scoot
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Not sure what it's like on the ground, but here in the US we're assuming that Scotland abandoning the sinking ship is a foregone conclusion.
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lol all the little Englishmen posting out their sex arses about how they voted to stay a decade ago which may as well be world war 2
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The Brits are going to attempt to scuttle their every attempt, and they might succeed in doing so.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Not sure what it's like on the ground, but here in the US we're assuming that Scotland abandoning the sinking ship is a foregone conclusion. nah. perfidious albion won't allow them to leave, and scotland leaving without the assent of the rest of the uk would probably result in spain blocking them from entering the eu, which would really gently caress scotland up
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Zeroisanumber posted:Not sure what it's like on the ground, but here in the US we're assuming that Scotland abandoning the sinking ship is a foregone conclusion. agreed, and even in this same thread; from the outside looking in, I don't see scotland as staying in the union. All of the historical necessities to breaking the union have seemed to arrive and then brexit happened. Once Scotland and N.I. go, what is stopping the Welsh or the NIP? and all of this has been such a massive self own on the part of the supposed ruling classes. the aristocrats made deliberate decisions that made the situation worse.
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I selfishly hope they stay, or at least leave and start bombing the tories.
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you're allowed to bomb rogue states if you've got sovrenty and are part of the eu right
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redleader posted:nah. perfidious albion won't allow them to leave, and scotland leaving without the assent of the rest of the uk would probably result in spain blocking them from entering the eu, which would really gently caress scotland up Catalan Indy is dead. Spain wants Gibraltar.
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bedpan posted:agreed, and even in this same thread; from the outside looking in, I don't see scotland as staying in the union. All of the historical necessities to breaking the union have seemed to arrive and then brexit happened. Once Scotland and N.I. go, what is stopping the Welsh or the NIP? Wales won't leave because without England they basically would be, to paraphrase another goon, reduced to relying on their vast natural bounty of gravel and consonants. At least the Scots have oil and tourism.
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I'm pretty sure that SNP are going to gently caress Indy2 up somehow, not least because they have become a corrupt ruling class unto themselves. I still get belly laughs out of looking at Scottish Tories and especially Labour somehow succeeding at being even more useless than thought possible, lol
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shirts and skins posted:Will there be adequate tunnel? Isn't this the area of sea that has something like 1,000,000 tons of unexploded munitions from WW2 sitting in it? And the trench is so deep a tunnel under it would feel more like a roller coaster?
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Dravs posted:Isn't this the area of sea that has something like 1,000,000 tons of unexploded munitions from WW2 sitting in it? And the trench is so deep a tunnel under it would feel more like a roller coaster? yes, the whitest of all white elephants
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Most of the North Channel is about 40m deep but Beaufort's Dyke (where we dropped all the munitions) is is like 300m deep
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Scotlands back baby (AWOOO) (bagpipe howl) its back
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What would the tunnel even do about the current NI border? Do Tories think that going under the border is the one weird trick which means you can just ignore it altogether, like digging under the Berlin Wall or something? of course they do
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Further north there's a possible crossing across the Strait of Moyle that's only 12 miles and doesn't have to deal with the gigantic trench full of explosives. Unfortunately a connection there would be between two lovely farm tracks in completely isolated parts of Scotland / Northern Ireland.
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I mean, I suppose a bright side for the Tories is it means they get to bung another few million at their school buddies before they declare it completely unfeasible again.
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They could be proposing a floating tunnel instead of an under seafloor one but yeah, it's still not happening anyway. Also iirc wouldn't the tunnel crossing connect pretty remote parts of both countries? I seem to recall that people would have to drive way out of their ways to get to either end of the tunnel
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I think part of the idea is that brexit threw up loads of issues with NI / RoI trade, which was "solved" by keeping NI in the single market. Having a road link between GB and NI means you can trade via that route instead, reducing the need for NI / RoI trade so that removing NI from the single market and establishing a hard border becomes more feasible This of course ignores all the cultural / historical reasons why a hard border is a terrible idea, but Tories
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So Scotland is pushing for independence from the UK while also trying to build a big new rail bridge to the UK?
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Pryor on Fire posted:So Scotland is pushing for independence from the UK while also trying to build a big new rail bridge to the UK? Scotland doesn't have anything to do with it. It's all: Dravs posted:I mean, I suppose a bright side for the Tories is it means they get to bung another few million at their school buddies before they declare it completely unfeasible again. now that HS2 is getting old and boring they need something new and shiny to zazz up the investors with.
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Gats Akimbo posted:Scotland doesn't have anything to do with it. It's all: some tories think the hs2 won them some northern votes , so by that logic this might win them scottish and northern irish votes
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MikeCrotch posted:Also iirc wouldn't the tunnel crossing connect pretty remote parts of both countries? I seem to recall that people would have to drive way out of their ways to get to either end of the tunnel The two options are Portpatrick to Larne, which isn't too bad - Portpatrick is within a couple of hours of Glasgow and Carlisle, and Larne is like a half hour from Belfast. Unfortunately a bridge / tunnel connecting them would be 28 miles long and have to deal with the trench full of explosives. The other option is only 12 miles between the Mull of Kintyre and Torr Head and doesn't cross Beaufort's Dyke but both those places are really remote and would need tons of work on the surrounding roads, particularly on the Scottish side.
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Probably be easier to sink an artificial tunnel than dig all the way under the bedrock but I'm an idiot who knows nothing of engineering so maybe not.
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Afaik the UK has to let the Scots leave, which would be a stupid thing for them to do. Essentially the entire British establishment is anti SNP So I think they just won't allow it. Otoh other comedy options are the Scots vote the same way again. Narrow remain victory. Or the Scots do leave and realise theyr a country of like 14 people whose main industry is lack of infrastructure. I like it here but an eyebrow raising number of Scots act like Scotland and England are similarly sized and developed, when Scotland is 10x smaller and half of it has literally a single road
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Communist Thoughts posted:Afaik the UK has to let the Scots leave, which would be a stupid thing for them to do. Counterpoint: england fuckin sucks balls
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plenty of functional countries are about the size of scotland, though i suspect that you're right in that there's a hint of the brexiteer delusion regarding the likely outcome of a separation it'd be seriously traumatic for several years, and though they'd end up making their own ruling class out of it, reasonably they'd still all go to oxbridge and be basically adjunct to the rUK one in sum i'd probably be pro-indy were i scottish, but it's not as huge a deal as it's portrayed, i think
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