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gwrtheyrn posted:
Someone on a German forum found a presentation stating the 16th, but a Korean forum is saying the 23rd so who knows? Really leaning towards the ID4 right now, some minor nuisances on the 1st like lack of proper keyless entry but I think it'll hold its value pretty well so probably will not be expensive to own for a year or two.
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So basically all still speculation? The only official word is some time in february as far as I've found. Not that it matters since it probably won't be available for at least another 6 months, and the whole SK/LG fight might screw it all up here
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gwrtheyrn posted:So basically all still speculation? The only official word is some time in february as far as I've found. Not that it matters since it probably won't be available for at least another 6 months, and the whole SK/LG fight might screw it all up here The deal with Apple fell through  https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/hyundai-and-kia-say-they-e2-80-99re-not-in-talks-to-make-the-apple-car/ar-BB1duG4k?ocid=uxbndlbing (still just a bunch of speculation, I'm messing around)
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2022 Bolt EV is 31k before incentives for 259 mi, 34k for 250 mi for Bolt EUV. That's -msrp- No updates to the battery in general, sounds like same DCFC speed.  
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Feb 14, 2021 22:11
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I was expecting them to put 4wd on the EUV at least, hmm. SuperCruise is cool though.
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I wish it didn't look angry.
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Feb 14, 2021 22:49
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I wish it was big enough to have two cupholders.
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I do enjoy that the hyundai/kia platform is called E-GMP.. Bring out the E-GMP! etc I am a child
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Feb 14, 2021 23:48
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Godholio posted:I wish it was big enough to have two cupholders.  
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I’m really hoping Rivian will make a smaller SUV or a small sized truck as their platform evolves and expands. The current vehicles are a bit too large for our needs but I love all the work they’re doing!
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I wish it was driving focused enough to have no cupholders
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DoomTrainPhD posted:A volt in the intermittent I'd rather slam my dick in a door than deal with domestic car dealers ever again. Plus the volt felt cheap(er) than the model 3. Like rental car tier vs mid grade honda tier.
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All the angles I saw hid the rear of the two, whoops. Good, but tandem cupholders suck too.
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Westy543 posted:2022 Bolt EV is 31k before incentives for 259 mi, 34k for 250 mi for Bolt EUV. That's -msrp- I read that this has more legroom than the 2022 Bolt hatchback, but less storage space. My 2019Bolt has the most legroom I've ever had in a car, so I don't know why GM did this. I guess they needed to put one bizarre decision into this car
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Westy543 posted:2022 Bolt EV is 31k before incentives for 259 mi, 34k for 250 mi for Bolt EUV. That's -msrp- That's a compelling option for just about anyone, especially if GM gets their federal tax credit back. A $24k OTD EV like that would lease for $100-200/mo. Just need GM marketing and their dealer network to get on board and stop loving people.
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Shamino posted:I'd rather slam my dick in a door than deal with domestic car dealers ever again. Plus the volt felt cheap(er) than the model 3. Like rental car tier vs mid grade honda tier. The 2nd Gen volt has a great interior and unlike the Tesla didn’t have horrendous build quality. When I hit black ice two years ago it took Tesla FIVE MONTHS and a call to the Michigan AG to get a fender and front bumper. Tesla also refused to provide a rental. At the time I was planning on moving to California and when I called Tesla to ask what would happen if they still hadn’t got me my replacement parts by the time I moved to SoCal they told me I would have to pay for transportation of the 3. In contrast, when I was rear-ended in my Volt, the Chevy dealer lent me a premium 2018 Volt and the repairs were done in a week.
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Shamino posted:That's a compelling option for just about anyone, especially if GM gets their federal tax credit back. A $24k OTD EV like that would lease for $100-200/mo. Just need GM marketing and their dealer network to get on board and stop loving people. Even if they don't, the bolt has had 8k+ in manufacturer incentives for more than a year now, which I'm sure would disappear the moment the tax credit was reinstated
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Man I was looking at the Taycan and was liking it more and more. Then I realised that I'm too poor to buy it and it wouldn't work as a family car anyway. Still, a man can dream...
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The Ioniq 5 premiere is Feb 22 11pm Pacific time. https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/ioniq/ioniq5 Stuff you can see already
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Feb 15, 2021 09:52
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Just had a look around an Enyaq in the same config as this video, white with Lodge wool-mix interior. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGG2EXrmvzk Really nice interior, more understated with less garish colors than in some of the official photos. There's also a lot to be said for well engineered doors. It is a lip around the lower edge which prevents dirt from getting in, normal handles and frames (!) and that car buyer's favourite, a nice close. You just give it a little swing so it gets past a levered pivot and whomp it's properly shut. Big adjustment range on the seat and steering wheel, I gave myself plenty of room (6 ft, 183 cm) but still had plenty of knee space behind myself. Just a really nice car all around.
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Ola posted:Just had a look around an Enyaq in the same config as this video, white with Lodge wool-mix interior. Looks nice. I'll have to go feel that cloth and see how well I fit. Hopefylly it feels as nice as it look. I'm hoping good quality cloth interiors are becoming a thing. The Enyaq look good in white as well. Edit: Really drat expensive though once they nickle and dime you for basic function. :/ Charles posted:The Ioniq 5 premiere is Feb 22 11pm Pacific time. Exciting! MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Charles posted:The Ioniq 5 premiere is Feb 22 11pm Pacific time. Awesome. The new hyundai/kia offerings are honestly the models I was most interested for this year. Hopefully, it comes early enough, or at least hopefully it will get a rough date. If it's out this calendar year in the US, I am probably cancelling my id.4 reservation
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MrOnBicycle posted:Man I was looking at the Taycan and was liking it more and more. Then I realised that I'm too poor to buy it and it wouldn't work as a family car anyway. Still, a man can dream... You would need to set expectations about how much stuff the family takes, but it's surprisingly roomy in the back. I'd be happy back there for a decently long journey as a passenger. The ride is very smooth and it's also super quiet. Poor thing needs a clean. 
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knox_harrington posted:You would need to set expectations about how much stuff the family takes, but it's surprisingly roomy in the back. I'd be happy back there for a decently long journey as a passenger. The ride is very smooth and it's also super quiet. As a not-yet-a-parent (but planning to be soon  ) I probably underestimate how much is needed. But I guess it would need to fit a pram and bag with stuff for the kid. After that it shouldn't be too bad. I actually have a KIA Optima PHEV right now, and that car is roomy as hell and will have no problem. But my next car will be an EV, and man does the Taycan seem like a nice car and while I can't afford it (or rather don't want to "afford it"), I'll make more money soon. Still expensive as hell in my country though, but second hand might be a better option by then. When I was a kid, we drove on holidays in a Mitsubishi Lancer estate and had 3 kids + all our poo poo including a pram in it it worked fine so that's kinda my reference. VVV: Probably. I walked past a lancer not too long ago and couldn't believe we actually fit a whole family + gear in one of those. MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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I'm guessing the Taycan has less useable storage space than a Lancer wagon.
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wk057 made a pretty interesting post about the Tesla 85 kWh battery issues. Most of this makes sense to me (as an EE), though I still have (unanswered) questions about the supercharger throttling that he specifically doesn't want to get into in that writeup.
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MrOnBicycle posted:As a not-yet-a-parent (but planning to be soon I promise you do!
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Wibla posted:wk057 made a pretty interesting post about the Tesla 85 kWh battery issues. Most of this makes sense to me (as an EE), though I still have (unanswered) questions about the supercharger throttling that he specifically doesn't want to get into in that writeup. There were a couple of posts on r/teslamotors about getting supercharging back recently, so it may still be related, the BMS just wants more time to be confident about condition x/z? Interesting, regardless.
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Jaguar will be an electric-only brand by 2025, Land Rover to follow by 2030: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/breaking-jaguar-become-all-electric-brand-2025
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Charles posted:The Ioniq 5 premiere is Feb 22 11pm Pacific time. Somebody, anybody, put together a competent charging competitor to tesla. There are a lot of great EVs coming out with comparable range and feature sets and that's really the last differentiator.
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Charles posted:The Ioniq 5 premiere is Feb 22 11pm Pacific time. After the fantastic experience my wife and I have been having with our Ioniq hybrid, we've basically decided this is the next family car. And this may sound weird, but one of the reasons the 5 looks so intriguing (besides the mechanicals which will be good) is the style.
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I’m nearly certain that my next car will be on the e-gmp. We’ve owned a hyundai and a kia for the past 5 years and they’ve been trouble free, extremely useful vehicles with great service and actually nice dealership experiences. As a tall I’m especially excited by the seat sliding abilities! Usually when I go car shopping the first disqualification is if I can’t get my legs in comfortably. It prevented me from getting the last gen volvo v60 
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Qwijib0 posted:Somebody, anybody, put together a competent charging competitor to tesla. There are a lot of great EVs coming out with comparable range and feature sets and that's really the last differentiator. Well, that and battery production. VW & GM plan on having their own battery production facilities up and running by this year I think. Only Chinese auto makers can match them at the moment.
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Qwijib0 posted:Somebody, anybody, put together a competent charging competitor to tesla. There are a lot of great EVs coming out with comparable range and feature sets and that's really the last differentiator. I'm trying! Give me a few months! Geeze!
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Westy543 posted:Jaguar will be an electric-only brand by 2025, Land Rover to follow by 2030: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/breaking-jaguar-become-all-electric-brand-2025 Going full electric by 2025, by...killing off their flagship electric sedan that was supposed to release later this year! https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/electric-jaguar-xj-scrapped-part-brand-reinvention-plan
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It was Aston Martin. Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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Feb 15, 2021 19:10
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Aston Martin was linked to an EV disinformation campaign, if that is what you are thinking of.
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Orvin posted:Aston Martin was linked to an EV disinformation campaign, if that is what you are thinking of. Ahhh got my old fashioned British automakers mixed up.
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I shared that info to my aunt who works a a Jaguar/Land Rover dealership, she said she hopes to be out of that line of work before they make the switch so maybe not everyone in the industry's super excited about it.
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MrOnBicycle posted:As a not-yet-a-parent (but planning to be soon You should definitely take a rear-facing child seat with you when you go look at vehicles.
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