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PostNouveau posted:I was wondering if Hijinks would fit in those gaps.
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Halloween Jack posted:If any robot is going to break out of the arena and kill its creator a la Frankenstein's monster, it's Uppercut. And that kid driving it knows it, which makes it a tragic tale.
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Feb 19, 2021 18:27
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Lol Slammow hoping they'd count out the robot limping towards them first
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Feb 19, 2021 18:32
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:For this particular type of fight, they really should scrap the 3 min rule and just let the bots fight until there's a KO. Its not like Whiplash was stalling per se, but outside of getting in a lucky lift, Whiplash was basically clinching the entire time. Which I find kinda lame oh jay posted:I've just now been able to realize why I don't like certain bots. I don't like it when bots can't (or worse, won't) fire their weapon unless they have their opponent pinned against a wall. This includes most hammers and saws, as well as a lot of lifters. oh jay posted:Same recurring theme in the bounty hunter episode as the main tournament was: JESUS JUST FIRE THE GODDAMN HAMMER BETA, YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKS.
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Feb 19, 2021 18:33
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Halloween Jack posted:
I want to see hammers do damage too! But we don't get to see that if they've min-max themselves into this position where they just aren't. Based on this description: Great Beer posted:Apparently beta can't fire the hammer while moving or the sudden stop from the magnets engaging causes the target to slide out of range. ...it's like something broke in their flowchart on how to improve. It's something like: Problem: We want to smash things better. Solution: Okay, the hammer's stronger now. New Problem: It's too strong! The flipping problem is worse than ever. Solution: Magnets! New New Problem: This greatly disrupts our ability drive and smash. Solution: Not found. It's like taking a pill for the side effects of a pill for the side effects of a pill. But in the end, they're missing that last pill that would actually tie it all together. If pinning against a wall before smashing is the answer, that's fine. But you need the speed and horsepower to be able to make that happen on bots that are more mobile than Rusty.
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Feb 19, 2021 19:32
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I've always wondered why hammer bots don't have an automated targeting system for their hammer ala chomp 1.0. It must be hard as hell to see if your hammer is lined up correctly depending on where they are in the arena, and it's pretty obvious from footage that every hammer bot ignores a good chunk of possible hits. Just place the system on a bot with a competent hammer (beta) and let them slam away. obviously have an on-off button for the system too so it doesn't get fooled into hitting a wall or something
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Feb 19, 2021 19:54
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Electronics are hard and sometimes you don't want to fire. The real question is why none of them have stolen sawblaze or skorpioses dustpan designs. Keeps the target under control and they get used as a counterweight so the hammer can hit even harder.
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Feb 19, 2021 20:05
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Great Beer posted:Electronics are hard and sometimes you don't want to fire. The real question is why none of them have stolen sawblaze or skorpioses dustpan designs. Keeps the target under control and they get used as a counterweight so the hammer can hit even harder. Guessing it's weight, the pneumatics for the hammer are heavy and the hammer has to be heavy too. Shove that in the back with a shovel in the front and the shovel may not be heavy / durable enough. Or you can have a great shovel and then a blacksmith-esque hammer that does nothing. Also at that point might as well go with a vert spinner / saw combo like sawblaze, it's probably lighter and can do more damage.
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Feb 19, 2021 20:10
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logikv9 posted:I've always wondered why hammer bots don't have an automated targeting system for their hammer ala chomp 1.0. It must be hard as hell to see if your hammer is lined up correctly depending on where they are in the arena, and it's pretty obvious from footage that every hammer bot ignores a good chunk of possible hits. Just place the system on a bot with a competent hammer (beta) and let them slam away. obviously have an on-off button for the system too so it doesn't get fooled into hitting a wall or something Automated targeting is a very difficult problem that requires significant computational power for a bot to discern and track a target. Chomps own targeting system consists of a lidar that basically distinguishes robot from floor. Problem is, even that isn't precise enough for a hammer or spike, which really needs to hit something like a belt or a chain or other squishy thing to have effect, and there is no targeting system precise enough for that in combat robotics, a fact of the meta that's reflected in nobody, even the big players, bothering to protect their belts and chains. I'm of the belief that if somebody managed to adapt image-recognition technologies to Battlebots to reliably detect and strike exposed belts and chains (easier said than done, I know), they could upend the current crop.
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Feb 19, 2021 20:23
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The solution is to field a half dozen drones with sensors on them, triangulating the exact positions of everything in real time, obviously.
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Feb 19, 2021 20:30
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BurntCornMuffin posted:Automated targeting is a very difficult problem that requires significant computational power for a bot to discern and track a target. Chomps own targeting system consists of a lidar that basically distinguishes robot from floor. Problem is, even that isn't precise enough for a hammer or spike, which really needs to hit something like a belt or a chain or other squishy thing to have effect, and there is no targeting system precise enough for that in combat robotics, a fact of the meta that's reflected in nobody, even the big players, bothering to protect their belts and chains. I'm of the belief that if somebody managed to adapt image-recognition technologies to Battlebots to reliably detect and strike exposed belts and chains (easier said than done, I know), they could upend the current crop. I think it might be something that could start coming up in the future. Tombstone Bounty Hunter spoiler... Gruff did actually try to go for Tombstones chain in the BH finale, ended up being a little low though... But yea, any type of automatic targeting system is going to be really difficult to design... and even more difficult to test safely... And it's pretty clear Chomp's team has a significant advantage on the budget front...
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Feb 19, 2021 22:04
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Team hypershock going "Just gently caress us up" was my fave part of the night. Contrast that to the butthurt dude from SlamMow.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:04
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Zedd posted:Team hypershock going "Just gently caress us up" was my fave part of the night. I mean, they were upside down, not moving. This poo poo is expensive
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Feb 19, 2021 22:08
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Sir DonkeyPunch posted:I mean, they were upside down, not moving. This poo poo is expensive Ofc but They where just doing the "I won" dance obviously not intending to hit it and dude just popped.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:43
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Zedd posted:Ofc but They where just doing the "I won" dance obviously not intending to hit it and dude just popped. They had just got done cooking his leg that was in the air with the flamethrower, and hadn't backed off
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Feb 19, 2021 23:00
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The guy from Slammow was got awkwardly heated, but I do think it's obnoxious when a team gets super-pumped up about attacking a dead bot. Gee, what an accomplishment guys...
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Feb 19, 2021 23:47
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I don't really see how Hydra is supposed to be able to get close enough to Gigabyte to flip them if the spinner's going. If they get far enough under to get a good flip then they're just gonna get smacked away. I think that one could legitimately be a huge upset
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Feb 20, 2021 02:18
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I expect Hydra's win is going to involve it slowing Gigabyte down enough with a combination of its own body and the wall. If it gets one flip I think it has a decent chance of gaining control and getting several. Also, I want Hydra to lose so much that there's no way my wishes will be answered
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Feb 20, 2021 02:25
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The first minute of the fight will be glancing blows with Gigabyte half spun up. Then either Gigs will get the perfect hit, or Hydra gets under it particularly quickly. Either way, that'll be it. I give it even odds either way, honestly. Though I do want evil to lose.
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Feb 20, 2021 02:52
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Gigabyte's self righting mechanism has been very iffy the last couple years... Hydra is going to get hit, but likely get Gigabyte going through the air too...
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Just got to watch the episode Lol Beta, that was entirely predictable. Poor Huge, you tried so hard and even drove pretty well. But you ain't beating Whiplash when he drives that well. And I haven't seen anyone play with it's food like Hydra did in a while. I felt like teams used to just beat up on broken bots a lot more in the past. logikv9 posted:
I don't know if it can be done. Was Ziggo the last full body spinner to have any success?
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Feb 20, 2021 06:22
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There was like a period in the mid 2000s when full-body/shell spinners were the feared bots in the competition. That's when Megabyte, Gigabyte's predecessor, was at its best. Same with Shrederator.
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Feb 20, 2021 07:02
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PopetasticPerson posted:I don't really see how Hydra is supposed to be able to get close enough to Gigabyte to flip them if the spinner's going. If they get far enough under to get a good flip then they're just gonna get smacked away. I think that one could legitimately be a huge upset Isn't it just going to be a repeat of that other full-body spinner that got its entire shell knocked off? Hydra fires so fast.
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Mumbling posted:The guy from Slammow was got awkwardly heated, but I do think it's obnoxious when a team gets super-pumped up about attacking a dead bot. Gee, what an accomplishment guys... BB Bounty Hunter spoiler: the Slammow guy was a butthurt sore loser there as well. It's one thing to question a referee's decision, it's another thing entirely to start yelling at the opposing team captain
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Feb 20, 2021 21:07
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:BB Bounty Hunter spoiler: the Slammow guy was a butthurt sore loser there as well. It's one thing to question a referee's decision, it's another thing entirely to start yelling at the opposing team captain There were some shenanigans before the fight that contributed: https://i.imgur.com/dGBZwxI.png
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PopetasticPerson posted:I don't really see how Hydra is supposed to be able to get close enough to Gigabyte to flip them if the spinner's going. If they get far enough under to get a good flip then they're just gonna get smacked away. I think that one could legitimately be a huge upset Hydra could always run a long spatula flipper ala Bronco vs Tombstone in season 1
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Feb 20, 2021 21:17
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Great Beer posted:There were some shenanigans before the fight that contributed: https://i.imgur.com/dGBZwxI.png "That caused a lot of tension" Ugh, that's a terrible excuse for poor sportsmanship. I'd understand if he was new to this but he's a 20+ year veteran
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Feb 20, 2021 21:33
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:"That caused a lot of tension" Ugh, that's a terrible excuse for poor sportsmanship. I'd understand if he was new to this but he's a 20+ year veteran Builders are nerds so naturally they would have Heated Gamer Moments™ as well. Doesn't matter the age.
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Feb 20, 2021 21:41
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:"That caused a lot of tension" Ugh, that's a terrible excuse for poor sportsmanship. I'd understand if he was new to this but he's a 20+ year veteran This is also nearly two weeks into filiming, stress is normal. Dude got upset, owned up it, and apologized to the affected parties. v0v
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:"That caused a lot of tension" Ugh, that's a terrible excuse for poor sportsmanship. I'd understand if he was new to this but he's a 20+ year veteran Specifically a veteran of all his fights being called off because he can't bring a functional robot.
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Mumbling posted:The guy from Slammow was got awkwardly heated, but I do think it's obnoxious when a team gets super-pumped up about attacking a dead bot. Gee, what an accomplishment guys... If they kill the bot, they get to attack the bot. Also lmao get hosed Beta
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Lone Goat posted:If they kill the bot, they get to attack the bot. I mean, it was a little hosed up when Poirier knocked out McGregor and then just went ahead and broke all his ribs, but rules are rules I guess
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Feb 21, 2021 02:02
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Sir DonkeyPunch posted:I mean, it was a little hosed up when Poirier knocked out McGregor and then just went ahead and broke all his ribs, but rules are rules I guess Robots don't get brain damage Tremendous post + av text combination though, lol
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Lone Goat posted:Robots don't get brain damage Rocky said that as he got up, to continue a fight that looked to be over; not even Tommy Gunn beat on a defenseless man What the hell do I know about BattleBots tho, my kid's bracket is doing way better than mine 
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drat, you couldn't really tell from the fight, but Gigabyte really hosed up Malice.
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Malice's a lot bigger than I thought, too. drat that's at least twice the size I thought.
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Chronojam posted:Malice's a lot bigger than I thought, too. drat that's at least twice the size I thought. They're all bigger than you think, I always forget they're 200+ pounds because they look like little toys without anything around them for scale.
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Borsche69 posted:Hydra could always run a long spatula flipper ala Bronco vs Tombstone in season 1 gently caress it, if bike rack worked, why not just build a giant LDPE hex dome around hydra so gig just bounces off and beats himself. GRIPPING THREE MINUTES OF TELEVISION Mk 2.  e: Fish Of Doom posted:drat, you couldn't really tell from the fight, but Gigabyte really hosed up Malice. Jesus, what material is Malice's weapon made of? That is a ton of chunks. UltraShame fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Feb 21, 2021 |
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UltraShame posted:gently caress it, if bike rack worked, why not just build a giant LDPE hex dome around hydra so gig just bounces off and beats himself. GRIPPING THREE MINUTES OF TELEVISION Mk 2. It looks like Aluminum with an inset steel tooth. Hydra also posted this anti-spinner attachment earlier in the season and we haven't seen it yet. This might be what they bust out against Gigabyte. 
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UltraShame posted:Jesus, what material is Malice's weapon made of? That is a ton of chunks. 6061 aluminum.
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