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Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


punk rebel ecks posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?

You make a lotta naive posts sometimes, friend, but I think this is the most naive one I've seen you make.

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Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth

punk rebel ecks posted:

There are no "good" states.

except my state of arousal when we dismantle hierarchy

Centrist Committee posted:

Didn’t California democrats pass Medicare for All when republicans were around to block it and then do jack poo poo about anything once they gained a supermajority and ever since?

I find that hard to believe. Now have you seen Kamala's senate voting record?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Actually I think Kevin DeLeon or whoever just held.it up in committee because of a few procedural questions with the bill should be fixed any day now

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

punk rebel ecks posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?

California and Texas are just two sides of the same coin.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



California owns, but also sucks. Texas sucks, but also owns. The beautiful harmony.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

FilthyImp posted:

Actually I think Kevin DeLeon or whoever just held.it up in committee because of a few procedural questions with the bill should be fixed any day now

Dems have only had the governor's seat for a decade, these things take time

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
California is the worst state, except for all the others.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

Centrist Committee posted:

Didn’t California democrats pass Medicare for All when republicans were around to block it and then do jack poo poo about anything once they gained a supermajority and ever since?

Like 2017 SB-562 when they had a supermajority in both houses and the governorship?

Assembly Speaker Anthony Rendon killed the single-payer health care bill, putting it "on hold", supposedly in cooperation with Governor Brown.

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


sb hermit posted:

California voters voted to let gig worker companies force their workers to be classed as contractors

its not like a single voter was educated on what any of the props actually meant, and Americans are too busy/tired/sad/dumb to spend a hundred hours researching things like that on their own

most people voting for that prop probably thought they were voting for the opposite

gotta love intentionally misleading prop descriptions and nonstop propaganda paid for by jaff zuckerbong bezass lol :capitalism:

Rah! fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Feb 20, 2021

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


Sydin posted:

California is the worst state, except for all the others.

:911:

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Kenning posted:

California owns, but also sucks. Texas sucks, but also owns. The beautiful harmony.

they both have in-n-out, which owns

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Sydin posted:

I went to a conference hosted by OCTA a couple years ago and man they are so proud about their express lanes and how much money they rake in. Between all the people congratulating them for this somebody asked if they actually had any kind of plan to fix traffic, and the OCTA guy was all "Oh yeah we're gonna expand the 91 with another express lane so even more cars can come through and we make even more money!" :downs:

The I-15 toll lanes are opening up from the 91 interchange to the San Bernardino county lines next month or two. After that plans are to have new toll lanes extend it to Victorville.

You’ll be able to drive from Anaheim to Victorville for a cool $100 or so.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

sb hermit posted:

they both have in-n-out, which owns

Yeah but California doesn’t have the boring flat landscape and has better weather 99% of the time.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010

punk rebel ecks posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?
They know they're the only game in town so to speak (outside of trying to primary them), so they basically don't feel the need to help improve people's lives in anyway.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

punk rebel ecks posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?

it could be, if democrats were appreciably different from Republicans in any way. alas,

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

also don't forget that california rocketed reagan to the white house as america's great white hope on the strength of him having disarmed the black panthers

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


OMGVBFLOL posted:

also don't forget that california rocketed reagan to the white house as america's great white hope on the strength of him having disarmed the black panthers

40 loving years ago lol. CA's non-hispanic white population has dropped from 67% of the total to 37% since then, and the state is less chudly than it would have been otherwise, because of that. CA probably wouldn't elect reagan these days

but yeah :sad:

Rah! fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Feb 20, 2021

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Last time we had a Republican Governor was way back in, uh, 2011

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006


FCKGW posted:

Last time we had a Republican Governor was way back in, uh, 2011

lol :negative:

reagan was worse though

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Rah! posted:

lol :negative:

reagan was worse though

How bad could an “old Union man” be?

https://youtu.be/D1YPKFJvgE8 at about 17:30

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

OMGVBFLOL posted:

it could be, if democrats were appreciably different from Republicans in any way. alas,

Uh excuse me. They outlawed owning Ferrets ok? How much more could you want?!

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

punk rebel ecks posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?

There will always still be a left and right end. CA Republicans are a rump party, so actual competition is between left and right ends of Democratic party. This is still better than Republican vs Democrats (or intra-Republican competition), but isn't perfect. Like no one is trying to ban abortion or have unregulated handguns, but it's not fully automated luxury gay space communism either

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


DoomTrainPhD posted:

Uh excuse me. They outlawed owning Ferrets ok? How much more could you want?!

If you outlaw owning ferrets, then only outlaws will own ferrets :clint:

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Foxfire_ posted:

There will always still be a left and right end. CA Republicans are a rump party, so actual competition is between left and right ends of Democratic party. This is still better than Republican vs Democrats (or intra-Republican competition), but isn't perfect. Like no one is trying to ban abortion or have unregulated handguns, but it's not fully automated luxury gay space communism either

state's rapidly becoming uninhabitable during fire season, but at least those gauche republicans aren't in office! that would almost be as gross as the homeless people who keep making me uncomfortable at brunch!

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Centrist Committee posted:

state's rapidly becoming uninhabitable during fire season, but at least those gauche republicans aren't in office! that would almost be as gross as the homeless people who keep making me uncomfortable at brunch!

Better only means better, not good. State could be on fire while also trying to de-facto ban abortion (Louisiana), canceling public schools to fund tax cuts (Kansas), refusing federal funds for Medicare expansion (lots), refuse to change identity documents for trans people (Tennessee), etc...

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Foxfire_ posted:

Better only means better, not good. State could be on fire while also trying to de-facto ban abortion (Louisiana), canceling public schools to fund tax cuts (Kansas), refusing federal funds for Medicare expansion (lots), refuse to change identity documents for trans people (Tennessee), etc...

No one really wants to hear about the evil poo poo we could be doing when people are suffering, though.

Magic Underwear
May 14, 2003


Young Orc

Centrist Committee posted:

state's rapidly becoming uninhabitable during fire season, but at least those gauche republicans aren't in office! that would almost be as gross as the homeless people who keep making me uncomfortable at brunch!

You're acting like a child. Do you even know what you're arguing for here or is this just another straw man for you to beat up on? Surprise, California isn't a socialist paradise, no state is. We're all very impressed by how leftist you are on the internet though, good job.

We have lots of problems here no doubt, but if you actually have an argument, state it in clear terms instead of being a glib catty bitch. Otherwise you're just being obnoxious.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
California is the state with the highest poverty rate in the nation. (Yes I realize Politfact is lol, but its sources in this case are directly from the census)

The government there has refused to do anything about the rapidly rising cost of living over the past few decades.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

punk rebel ecks posted:

The government there has refused to do anything about the rapidly rising cost of living over the past few decades.

That’s not fair, the state moved swiftly to freeze millions of people’s unemployment payments, sending a strong a market signal that it does not support poor people spending lavishly on opulent indulgences like “food” and “rent.”

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

our state legislature and congressional reps are, nearly to a one, landlords. small time, 1-3 unit ma-and-pa-retiree type landlords are no making GBS threads like a solid quarter to a third of the voting base. california housing policy is the quip about democracy being two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner, but irl

Greg12
Apr 22, 2020

Foxfire_ posted:

There will always still be a left and right end. CA Republicans are a rump party, so actual competition is between left and right ends of Democratic party. This is still better than Republican vs Democrats (or intra-Republican competition), but isn't perfect. Like no one is trying to ban abortion or have unregulated handguns, but it's not fully automated luxury gay space communism either

compromise and bipartisanship are truly the path forward

it's been illegal to build apartments since 1975, and skyscraper owners don't pay property tax, but at least we have that microstamping law!

commielingus
Jan 23, 2021

by Athanatos

punk rebel ecks posted:

What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?

:lol: Literal Ben Shapiro talking point.

You do know neoliberals hold the same austerity & deregulation views as conservatives, right? Example: look at the current hellscapes of California AND Texas.

droll
Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth

DanteDevils posted:

:lol: Literal Ben Shapiro talking point.

You do know neoliberals hold the same austerity & deregulation views as conservatives, right? Example: look at the current hellscapes of California AND Texas.

Neoliberal conservatives breaks the brains of people that can only imagine "liberals are socialists!!"

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




California was and largely still is an “Eisenhower Republican” state. Goodwin Knight and Earl Warren believed in actually using the government for useful ends like funding education and infrastructure and even believed unions weren’t inherently evil. You had Reagan who cut the education budget to own uppity protesting college students, but on the other hand his position on gun control would get him cancelled in a heartbeat in today’s GOP.

Today’s Eisenhower Republicans are just called Democrats. The GOP started losing the state once the party started really lurching to the right in 1994.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

ProperGanderPusher posted:

GOP started losing the state once the party started really lurching to the right in 1994.
Pete Wilson's great self-own

Mitsuo
Jul 4, 2007
What does this box do?

FilthyImp posted:

Pete Wilson's great self-own

That’s 1-8-7 on a California GOP

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

DoomTrainPhD posted:

Uh excuse me. They outlawed owning Ferrets ok? How much more could you want?!
What, why? Aren't ferrets domesticated?

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Cicero posted:

What, why? Aren't ferrets domesticated?

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-ferrets-illegal-in-California posted:


Ferrets were initially outlawed in California in 1933, when they were outlawed under the auspice of being an "exotic animal" which could be detrimental to the population of native species, under California Code of Registrations Title 14 §671
which specified amongst mammal the species banned for import Weasels, Ferrets, and Stoats and most animals which are not-native to California for import into the state.

Further reasons from California Fish and Game were expressed (in a report that has since been criticized as being affected with bias) after ferret owners wished to have have the ferret removed from the list (the ferret having gone from relative obscurity as a pet in 1933 to being one of the more popular animals to keep in the 1990s) that ferrets:

Can Carry Rabies
Remain a threat to agri-business
Are prone to biting owners and children

Groups in California mounted their own counter study and rebutted with factual evidence of their own:

A universally accepted rabies vaccine does exist and is produced by Rhone-Merieux.
When questioned individually, none of the 50 departments of agriculture in California at the time would assert that the domestic ferret is a threat.
The Journal of American Veterinary Medical Association, using statistics from the CDC showed that domestic dogs are far more likely to bite and cause injury than the domesticated ferret

Attempts to have a Bill introduced to repeal ferrets as illegal died in procedure in 2008, and in 2009 California Fish and Game requested that an Environmental Impact Report be conducted, independently, to justify the removal of the ferret from the list of banned animals.

The report was completed in September of 2010 and can be viewed in its entirety here: http://ferretsanon.com/EIR/Final_Report.pdf

As this issue is without legal precedent, the report was submitted in December but the groups seeking to have ferrets removed from the list were having difficulties finding legal representation.

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

Cicero posted:

What, why? Aren't ferrets domesticated?

they are vicious animals that can attack you when you least expect it

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Jan 9, 2020

by Azathoth
Ferrets are being deliberately oppressed by Big Bunnies and frankly it disgusts me that this issue doesn't come up more often.

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