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Who would you delegate the task to? The guy who goes down with you to the surface of the Moon, or the guy who’s supposed to give you a lift home in the CSM? I don’t know which Lovell’s plan was. He tells it like it’s a joke, here, third slide. This direct link to the .MP3 may or may not work: https://culturalinstitute-audio-serving.storage.googleapis.com/audiocaption/hQOgvuy7n46GWQ/1585659763145.mp3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZouM11wDKcE Platystemon fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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Maybe americans shouldnt make their homes out of chicken wire then you could fire as many cannons as you'd like  https://twitter.com/Debuking5/status/1364865482994630658
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Is this a carjacking, or what?
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gonadic io posted:Is this a carjacking, or what? Probably Russia, and Tuesday.
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MisterOblivious posted:They quit doing that like a decade ago because it's too mean spirited. Nowadays those guys just get a ton of penalty laid added to their score.. I am totally showing up in a new Corvette then.
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Platystemon posted:Who would you delegate the task to? The guy who goes down with you to the surface of the Moon, or the guy who’s supposed to give you a lift home in the CSM? I'm pretty sure it was during Gemini, when it was just two dudes in a tin can. One mission was two weeks.
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Reading the thread, they manually decided to pass the truck and cross the two solid lines "safely thanks to the handling and acceleration!", so they don't know how to drive, either.
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Uthor posted:Reading the thread, they manually decided to pass the truck and cross the two solid lines "safely thanks to the handling and acceleration!", so they don't know how to drive, either. Yeah what the hell, why didn't they just gently brake and move in behind the truck? I drive in heavy traffic all the time and I would never ever have done that. "Zoom ahead and make an illegal lane crossing" is a pretty garbage plan. poo poo I just watched it again, they didn't to change lanes at all, they were already in an exit lane. The truck was ahead of them and moved over. They just showed a completely unsafe and unnecessary maneuver and presented it as good. Uncle Enzo fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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SyNack Sassimov posted:I live half a mile from where an old manufacturing plant used to be which dumped shitloads of PCE into the ground, and the land is covered with expensive townhomes now. All of which have a lot of bullshit in their purchasing documents basically stating "you live on a chemical spill, if you get sick that's your problem". As stupid and lovely as the people who ran the factory were, and while it's clearly their fault the ground is now cancer, are they really responsible for the fact you can now buy a house sitting on top of their old site? 
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Cthulu Carl posted:Nah, Kari just told him to do a jump IIRC Possibly my favourite Mythbusters moment was Kari and Scottie going "Let's egg him on until he hurts himself".
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small ghost posted:You could make an entire new film/TV only OSHA thread tbh. I just got off a call with my dad, who has Parkinson's, who was just updating me on an old industry friend of his, who has just been diagnosed with Parkinson's; just like another friend of theirs who died of complications related to Parkinson's just last year... I'm not sure if there's a proven link between developing colour film and Parkinson's, but anecdotally, a lot of photographers and cameramen seem to get it. Michael J. Fox got Parkinson's from some bad heroin, users of certain herbicides have increased rates of Parkinson's, and it can be triggered in primates by injecting MPTP. It absolutely has external triggers. Huffing tons of organic solvents for years and developing long term problems is completely believable and unfortunately common as people exposed to those low safety practices get older.
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jetz0r posted:Michael J. Fox got Parkinson's from some bad heroin, What?
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SyNack Sassimov posted:Weeeeelllllll
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The primary fault lies with the developer who built a bunch of houses on cheap land without doing proper remediation first. But the company that poisoned the land and then sold it cheap to someone else instead of dealing with it themselves also has a big chunk of the blame.
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KoRMaK posted:Yes Counterpoint: no edit: Jabor posted:The primary fault lies with the developer who built a bunch of houses on cheap land without doing proper remediation first. This I can agree with, my point was simply the primary fault issue. SyNack Sassimov fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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yea maybe poisoning land for generations in pursuit of profits actually is your fault and our litigious system finding a way to hand wave it away are both the problem
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SyNack Sassimov posted:Counterpoint: no
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KoRMaK posted:the industrial barron defender has logged on Sure, that's definitely why I said "As stupid and lovely as the people who ran the factory were, and while it's clearly their fault the ground is now cancer, ", because I was defending them you see (Also I'm presuming you mean baron because I don't know what an industrial version of Trump's kid has to do with this)
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SyNack Sassimov posted:Sure, that's definitely why I said "As stupid and lovely as the people who ran the factory were, and while it's clearly their fault the ground is now cancer, ", because I was defending them you see
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KoRMaK posted:Why'd you provide a counterpoint then???? Duh doi Cool this has already become one of those <two idiots slapping each other> series of posts that everyone else hates to read. Congrats you won the debat you get a prize it's cancer, enjoy
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Phanatic posted:What? Well we don't know for sure, but it's a possible cause that he did heroin that had some sort of adulterant like MPTP. He does have a history of addiction problems. It also could have been some other sort of environmental exposure like pesticides or something.
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Uncle Enzo posted:Yeah what the hell, why didn't they just gently brake and move in behind the truck? I drive in heavy traffic all the time and I would never ever have done that. "Zoom ahead and make an illegal lane crossing" is a pretty garbage plan. After that, I dunno? Am I stuck in the exit lane next to a truck that still wants to get over and almost hit me once already? I need to get in front or behind the truck, and I want to get back to my lane before the gore strip ends. I general I want to be as far away from erratic drivers as possible, for trucks that means passing them. In this situation, my car wouldn't be able to pass the truck before the gore strip ends. So I'd have to brake safely then merge right back to my lane behind the truck. The tesla was able to just floor it and get in front of the truck. It's not the safest option, but given the situation, it's reasonable. I will poo poo on tesla and musk all day long, but that trucker was willing to cause a crash to avoid missing an exit.
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SyNack Sassimov posted:Cool this has already become one of those <two idiots slapping each other> series of posts that everyone else hates to read.
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Just so you're aware, the blinking lights on the truck are actually there to indicate that it's going to perform a lane change - it's not like the truck suddenly moved with no warning.
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Jabor posted:Just so you're aware, the blinking lights on the truck are actually there to indicate that it's going to perform a lane change - it's not like the truck suddenly moved with no warning. That's the rear end in a top hat part. Turn signals also don't magically make merging into a space 1.5x times your size with a 20mph speed difference safe.
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I've been in situations where the car (or truck) in the other lane puts on the blinkers a microsecond before changing lanes and not checking for anyone behind them on the other lane, and since the video starts with the truck's blinkers on, it's hard to pass judgement on the Tesla IMO. That said, there was nobody directly behind the Tesla as shown by the rear cam, so it could have just braked and not cut across the gore point at all.
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jetz0r posted:That's the rear end in a top hat part. truck's bully in like that all the time, they basically have a 'either move or you hit me, i wont die but you might, feeling lucky?" attitude
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Regardless of whether the truck signaled well in advance, the safe and sane solution would have been to slow a little bit and follow the truck.
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jetz0r posted:That's the rear end in a top hat part. If the vehicle in the next lane over is signalling a lane change, and has plenty of room to make that lane change, you should already be anticipating that they're going to move. If you ignore that and keep zooming up to them, and they follow through with their move while you're still far enough away to avoid a collision, just maybe it takes a bit more braking than is comfortable on your part, they're not the rear end in a top hat or the dangerous one.
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I'll mention that the autopilot in this case swerved into another lane instead of braking because it's programmed to avoid hard braking whenever possible. The overall system is an unreliable piece of poo poo, and nuisance braking is very noticeable to passengers while maintaining speed but driving erratically is not. The system is tuned to avoid braking as an attempt to cover up just how bad it is.
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OTOH the autopilot might have been working as intended: driving like an rear end in a top hat in a Tesla. i'm surprised it didnt honk all the way while cutting through the lanes
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You all know perfectly well that if the autopilot's solution to anything was "slow down, be cautious" the Tesla-owning crowd would raise holy hell about it. Like that lady says in her own tweet that she did the "safe" thing by flooring it and cutting across the chevrons. That's the user attitude the autopilot is expected to match. e: yeah
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KoRMaK posted:thank god the tesla saved that person and did a manovour that no human paying attention could do - listing to the left the AP put the tesla in the lovely situation because it can't read traffic like a human. i can tell when a truck is freaking out and trying to merge two lanes over to make an exit, but the AP can't. Jabor posted:I'll mention that the autopilot in this case swerved into another lane instead of braking because it's programmed to avoid hard braking whenever possible. Failure for self driving that requires human intervention always happens in the worst mode possible for humans to intervene. A human can't be tuned out and snap to attention to correct a problem before an incident occurs. Instead we're getting systems that default to carrying on as if everything is fine until something catastrophic happens. I guess I accidentally described almost every system and institution in America there, too.
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jetz0r posted:Failure for self driving that requires human intervention always happens in the worst mode possible for humans to intervene. A human can't be tuned out and snap to attention to correct a problem before an incident occurs. Instead we're getting systems that default to carrying on as if everything is fine until something catastrophic happens. This is why I feel that self driving will be most dangerous when it requires human interference during an emergency. If it's not good enough for self driving, the driver is going to be aware of what is going on. If it's good enough to handle anything, the driver can safely zone out. If it's almost good enough, you're going to get people expected to take over at a moment's notice after spending hours or days of not having to do anything.
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Queadlunn posted:
where we're going, we need eyes full of delicious apricot filling to see
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"Hans, why did you design the machine so the needles are pupil-width apart and the actuating levers are were someone could be putting their hands if they're falling towards it?"
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