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Sanguinia posted:Same. But wasn't that just a reskin of some other 4x game? Was it? I enjoyed the combat system and don't recall it from any other game.
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The problem with Birth of the Federation is that Romulans are OP as gently caress since they get a free turn at the start of battle when they decloak and can usually wipe out the enemy fleet without ever taking a shot. One thing I still remember from the Final Unity game that stuck with me is there's a part where you have to take down a forcefield in your way. If you shoot it with your phaser it basically does nothing, but you can use your tricorder to scan it and get a frequency to tune your phaser to. Depending on which crew member does the scan action they'll give different answers. Like Riker will say it's 9.2 gigahertz and if you use that it'll just make the field flicker for a second, but if you use a science or engineering officer they'll give a more precise 9.234 gigahertz answer that'll take it down long enough to get by. If you get Data to do the scan he gives an overly precise 9.2345678 gigahertz answer that pretty much destroys the field. I liked that the 'Data goes into way too much detail in his answers' trope ended up being actually useful.
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Shyrka posted:The problem with Birth of the Federation is that Romulans are OP as gently caress since they get a free turn at the start of battle when they decloak and can usually wipe out the enemy fleet without ever taking a shot. The best thing about that game was how you should basically bring Data on every away mission because he is by far the most useful character.
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Mar 1, 2021 17:40
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V-Men posted:Was it? I enjoyed the combat system and don't recall it from any other game. I believe it started from existing engines but was more development than just a simple reskin. The combat engine was new to their 4x stuff and I think partly pulled in from a flight simulator engine? MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 1, 2021 |
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Mar 1, 2021 17:44
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nine-gear crow posted:3 was the last Trek game Activision made before it coyoted its way out of that contract with Viacom, and, well... it wasn’t that good from what I’d played of it. Then again, I also played it as a near direct follow up to Bridge Commander, and that game was incredible and cast a long shadow over everything else Activision did with the brand.
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Mar 1, 2021 18:50
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I miss struggling to get Klingon Honor guard to run on my lovely Windows 98 PC, but when I did have it working I had plenty of fun making the bots in death match as stupid as possible and luring them through the shuttle bay force field into space on that one space station map
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Mar 1, 2021 18:58
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Alchenar posted:The best thing about that game was how you should basically bring Data on every away mission because he is by far the most useful character. Checks out. I always liked the bits and pieces about just how terrifying Data could be. The most obvious example is in Brothers where the terrible security system on the Enterprise lets Data single-handedly hijack a starship and essentially hold the crew hostage. But even the little things like the button at the end of Gambit show how you don't want to be on the wrong side of Data - Picard jokes that Riker should be taken to the brig for court-martial offenses, and Data just does it, no expression, no concern. If that robot wants to take you to the brig, you are going there.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:07
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nine-gear crow posted:3 was the last Trek game Activision made before it coyoted its way out of that contract with Viacom, and, well... it wasn’t that good from what I’d played of it. Then again, I also played it as a near direct follow up to Bridge Commander, and that game was incredible and cast a long shadow over everything else Activision did with the brand. Having played all the SFC games and liking 2/Orion Pirates the best, my biggest gripes with III were that there was no dynamic campaign, and the combat took forever because 75% of shots would just outright miss.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:21
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Gully Foyle posted:Checks out. I always liked the bits and pieces about just how terrifying Data could be. The most obvious example is in Brothers where the terrible security system on the Enterprise lets Data single-handedly hijack a starship and essentially hold the crew hostage. Data is pretty much superior to humans in all ways except (or especially if want to conform to stereotypes) emotions. He's way stronger than a human, capable of superhuman perception and thinking, and probably has way more steady hand and better motor skills too. The only reason you even have crusher as a doctor is more or less that more characters are more fun on a show. Data should be able to completely replace Geordie and Crusher at least, but not Picard or even Worf who use their guy feelings when dealing with aliens.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:41
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Yeah but he can't beat a master at stratagema
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Mar 1, 2021 20:43
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How is he at ambo jitsu though? Surely it takes experience to master the ultimate evolution of martial arts.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:46
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He just needs to download the relevant skills, or failing that, machine learn them using data from recordings. Same with surgery and, as actually shown, playing the violin. Stratagema was also pretty dumb, since the game was obviously about quick reactions rather than strategy. It looked intense though, and a chess live have would probably not work as well on screen.
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While my auditory sensors are sophisticated enough to process listening to four operas simultaneously, I must admit that they are not a suitable replacement for vision. The sport of anbo-jitsu is therefore at best, challenging.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:51
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I just saw 'The Game' where the entire crew is held hostage by orgasmic pleasure. It reminded me of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Also the day is saved by Wesley Crusher of course who was only there on vacation after having not been on the show for more than a year or so.
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Mar 1, 2021 20:54
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The Breen have the greatest physical challenge series in the galaxy but refuse to share it with outlanders
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Mar 1, 2021 20:56
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In my canon Westley became a ensign and then immediately became like Picard in his boring timeline and stuck in astrometrics all alone cause no one could stand him 
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Mar 1, 2021 21:01
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Why did the Twin Peaks giant guy want to take him through time and space? Was that some kind of grooming situation, but Beverly was just sick of the kid by that point?
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Mar 1, 2021 21:03
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I just assumed it was because the Traveller saw him as a good host for his horrible traveller baby or something.
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Mar 1, 2021 21:10
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Why did the Twin Peaks giant guy want to take him through time and space? Was that some kind of grooming situation, but Beverly was just sick of the kid by that point? His corporeal form was as a needle drawing a metaphysical thread, which the Traveller criss-crossed the Universe with. Soon, He shall draw the thread taut.
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Mar 1, 2021 21:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uaHZxvMZBY
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This was the dumbest thing in the entire show and im sure the writers were patting themselves in the back with how clever they were
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Mar 1, 2021 21:50
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Nitrousoxide posted:This was the dumbest thing in the entire show and im sure the writers were patting themselves in the back with how clever they were How DARE you insult Reed Alert! 
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Why did the Twin Peaks giant guy want to take him through time and space? Was that some kind of grooming situation, but Beverly was just sick of the kid by that point? To be a bit pedantic, that's not the Twin Peaks giant. The Twin Peaks giant (Carel Struycken) plays Lwaxana Troi's butler/assistant.
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Mar 1, 2021 21:59
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Wesley being groomed by an interdimensional paedo whilst the behaviour is ignored by everyone else in his life is an extremely Twin Peaks situation though
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Mar 1, 2021 22:57
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Marshal Radisic posted:From what I remember of SFC3 it was a more streamlined casual player-friendly version of the Interplay SFCs with more of a focus on customizing your equipment loadouts rather than selecting out of a library of premade variants. I also don't think it was made with any input from Amarillo Design Bureau, the guys who made the original pen-and-paper naval combat system of Starfleet Battles who have a weird license where the only Trek stuff they're allowed to use is whatever's in the old Franz Joseph TOS tech manual. Amarillo collaborated with Paramount and Interplay to make the initial three SFC games (though I wonder if changing the setting to a pseudo-TOS movie era was due to licensing issues), but they felt Paramount was trying to squeeze them out with SFC3 so they refused to collaborate with Paramount/Viacom/CBS on any future projects. I've heard vague stories that Cryptic were sending out some feelers in 2015 about getting some of those Franz Joseph ships in the game while they were developing the big TOS-themed update to Star Trek Online, but Amarillo wasn't interested in the slightest. I always wondered what happened to the rights for Interplay's Klingon Academy original designs, aside from SFC 1 and 2 I don't think I've seen them pop up anywhere else and they're far better overall than any other TOS (movie) era expanded fleets.
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Nitrousoxide posted:This was the dumbest thing in the entire show and im sure the writers were patting themselves in the back with how clever they were If that poo poo were written today there would be a season-long story arc about the origin of the Red alert klaxon
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Mar 1, 2021 23:12
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Tighclops posted:If that poo poo were written today there would be a season-long story arc about the origin of the Red alert klaxon You see once Michael Burnham was going to earth and they met the ancestor for kirk who was then schooled on how to be a good star fleet officer by Michael Burnham, who then met the designer for the enterprise 1701 and told them how to maximize crew placement and thus the red alert was born. Then Michael Burnham ascended to heaven until she was needed once more.
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Mar 1, 2021 23:21
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I wish Michael Burnham would just cry-ascend (crend) away from any future show or plot ever.
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jeeves posted:I wish Michael Burnham would just cry-ascend (crend) away from any future show or plot ever. I must go now, my planet needs me
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Mar 1, 2021 23:42
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If Michael ever leaves the show there will be a season-long wake about how special & amazing she was
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You know it's funny, I stopped watching the new Doctor Who for exactly the same reason. I guess he doesn't cry so much.
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McSpanky posted:I always wondered what happened to the rights for Interplay's Klingon Academy original designs, aside from SFC 1 and 2 I don't think I've seen them pop up anywhere else and they're far better overall than any other TOS (movie) era expanded fleets. Looks like someone made an Armada 2 mod that includes them: https://klingon-academy-ii-empire-at-war.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Federation_Vessels
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Goblin Craft posted:You know it's funny, I stopped watching the new Doctor Who for exactly the same reason. I guess he doesn't cry so much. I’m going to go ahead and blame Harry Potter for the absolute fixation on “you’re the special chosen one that the central conflict, and also universe, revolves around” main characters IPs have had for the last 15 years.
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Royal Updog posted:If Michael ever leaves the show there will be a season-long wake about how special & amazing she was Whenever Burnham not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Burnham?"
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HD DAD posted:I’m going to go ahead and blame Harry Potter for the absolute fixation on “you’re the special chosen one that the central conflict, and also universe, revolves around” main characters IPs have had for the last 15 years. i think we gotta blame the greeks for that if we get right down to it
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How many ensigns do you think the command center lift bisected on DS9 with its lack of a gate when moving?
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HD DAD posted:I’m going to go ahead and blame Harry Potter for the absolute fixation on “you’re the special chosen one that the central conflict, and also universe, revolves around” main characters IPs have had for the last 15 years. That's been the central conceit of YA literature for decades upon decades, and of ancient literature long before that. The Odyssey or The Aeneid ring a bell?
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Timby posted:That's been the central conceit of YA literature for decades upon decades, and of ancient literature long before that. The Odyssey or The Aeneid ring a bell? I mean, the central conflict was troy. The odyssey is centered on odysseus but it's a side story and he isn't the most important person in the universe, and all he has in terms of a special destiny is getting cursed to eat poo poo for ten years.
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