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Eimi posted:Now that you point it out, I can't unsee it. I kind of like that the Republic has a garbage-looking flagship - it fits with the story, that they're struggling to rebuild and have to rely on whatever they can find, so it works in-story that their flagship isn't a cool new design like the other factions.
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a neat cape posted:I watched Generations and mostly enjoyed it. He was better. John F Bennett posted:Troi sure looks lost on the bridge. Perhaps they were the seeds for a fifth column. Minor cosmetic surgery and exhaustively trained in logic to convince enough Vulcans to leave the Federation or even join the Romulans. If it were perceived as a native movement rather than an obvious external ploy, their responses would be different. That's more the Romulan style than any direct attack.
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Jumanji Molly is hot. O'Brien taking it on the chin again eh. edit; also I think the whole 'Troi training for rank to be able to take the bridge' storyline and her seeming awkward was to show like not every single person on the ship can just slip into captain's chair seamlessly as everyone else had. knox fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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First Trek I watched was TNG during quarantine which I marathoned, straight into DS9 that I burnt out on in S3 until recently where I'm about to be on S7. First Contact is the only film I've seen inbetween DS9 break, besides 2009 film which I have zero recollection of. Where should I go from here in terms of films to watch next, and should I try TOS before anything else? Tried to watch first episodes before but just couldn't get into it.
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knox posted:Where should I go from here in terms of films to watch next, and should I try TOS before anything else? Tried to watch first episodes before but just couldn't get into it. The very best TOS episodes to watch (in my opinion), in no particular order: Balance of Terror The Devil in the Dark The Trouble with Tribbles Space Seed The City on the Edge of Forever The Doomsday Machine Amok Time The Ultimate Computer One of these episodes will give you the back story for the very best TOS movie, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. (But watch them all.) edit: With very few exceptions, there's no story continuity between TOS episodes, they were designed to be completely standalone. Watch in any order. Powered Descent fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Mar 4, 2021 |
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Star Trek V is pretty drat weak as a film, though it has some hilarious lines and memeable stuff in it. But otherwise all other TOS movies are worth watching and range from decent to amazing.
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Eimi posted:Star Trek V is pretty drat weak as a film, though it has some hilarious lines and memeable stuff in it. But otherwise all other TOS movies are worth watching and range from decent to amazing. It has some of the best exploration of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy's friendship of any of the movies, but everything else about it is garbage. Except David Warner.
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Vasukhani posted:I mean, TOS basically had the main officers and then just the cannon fodder. tng was way better at showing the rest of the crew, and making it feel like there were things going on the ship outside of the main officers. Although it was a little silly that every away team had the entire chain of command. I guess I'm crazy, but I kind of feel like the opposite is true? TNG had a larger cast, but it always felt like they did everything. All the modern Treks are like that. TOS actually had a lot of characters who were one-off specialists, and even had at least one episode with an entire security detachment. A lot of those characters died, but I always felt like S1/2 TOS was pretty much as good as Trek got when it came to showing a ship with an actual crew.
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Paradoxish posted:TOS actually had a lot of characters who were one-off specialists, and even had at least one episode with an entire security detachment. A lot of those characters died, but I always felt like S1/2 TOS was pretty much as good as Trek got when it came to showing a ship with an actual crew.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The First Contact theme is one of the best themes in Trek bar none  Absolutely.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It has some of the best exploration of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy's friendship of any of the movies, but everything else about it is garbage. All right, but apart from the exploration of Kirk, Spock and McCoy's friendship, the memeability, David Warner, the score, the cinematography, and Laurence Luckinbill, what has Star Trek 5 ever done for us?
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Goblin Craft posted:All right, but apart from the exploration of Kirk, Spock and McCoy's friendship, the memeability, David Warner, the score, the cinematography, and Laurence Luckinbill, what has Star Trek 5 ever done for us? Sybok eunt domus!
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Eimi posted:Star Trek V is pretty drat weak as a film, though it has some hilarious lines and memeable stuff in it. But otherwise all other TOS movies are worth watching and range from decent to amazing.
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Optimum TMP viewing experience is while high as balls.
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TMP is the most anti-star wars film ever made, it even makes Silent Running look like a thrill ride in comparison. This is kind of why I like it, to be honest. It is a slow moving mystery, that is more interested in just taking its time than anyhting else.
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HD DAD posted:Optimum TMP viewing experience is while high as balls. Ideally in a theater too, though good luck with that nowadays. The 40th anniversary screenings were a great time. The transporter malfunction scene is loving terrifying at that scale. G rated movie, lol
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skasion posted:The transporter malfunction scene is loving terrifying at that scale. G rated movie, lol 
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Payndz posted:That final scream. Then they have the nerve to give McCoy a bunch of poo poo about not wanting to get transported
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Spock's brother presents a lot of revelations about Vulcans and uses for their psychic powers that nobody ever follows up. Spock having a brother would also have a lot of implications on Spock as a character. You could probably also make some interesting stories following up the all-knowing floating head imprisoned in the center of the galaxy, but nobody wants to touch on that. And the starting premise of the Federation, Klingons, and Romulans trying to put together a planet to live together as some kind of performative act of peace but then immediately failing and leaving everyone there stranded without hope seems like a complicated idea that has a lot of implications for the future of political relations, and even standing as an example of why future attempts at building peace won't be trusted and will be doomed to fail. Like it's a silly movie, but it's also been abandoned by the rest of the franchise, which makes it even more of a dead end
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SlothfulCobra posted:Spock's brother presents a lot of revelations about Vulcans and uses for their psychic powers that nobody ever follows up. Spock having a brother would also have a lot of implications on Spock as a character. Yeah but what if spock had a sister? I bet that would be a cool thing to explore and you could get at least 3 seasons out of that
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Ramadu posted:Yeah but what if spock had a sister? I bet that would be a cool thing to explore and you could get at least 3 seasons out of that Okay I like where you're going, but what if she was completely unlikable but we still made every character kiss the ground she walked on?
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What if we took everything spock ever said about other things and then made it about her, even though she pretty much hated spock, for reasons.
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Axe-man posted:What if we took everything spock ever said about other things and then made it about her, even though she pretty much hated spock, for reasons.
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Retconning the character of Spock to be the product of an obnoxious Mary Sue made my nerd blood boil. I could hear the cry of the forum warrior.
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So were you guys this livid when they introduced Sybok or what
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Big Mean Jerk posted:So were you guys this livid when they introduced Sybok or what
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I must have missed the part where everyone tells Sybok he's the reason Spock is so great. Sybok, hero of Vulcan.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Sybok wasn’t retconned to be the reason why Spock became who he is No, he just retconned Spock's father to have expressed bigotry toward his own newborn child and that overcoming THAT is the reason why Spock became who he is. Clearly a much lesser offense.
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Sanguinia posted:No, he just retconned Spock's father to have expressed bigotry toward his own newborn child and that overcoming THAT is the reason why Spock became who he is. Clearly a much lesser offense. Are you being sarcastic? Because that is vastly better.
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Typical Pubbie posted:Are you being sarcastic? Because that is vastly better. Yeah, Sarek being racist toward his own child is so much better a storyline, what was I thinking
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That’s a fairly common storyline yeah Though if your really invested in spocks dad I can understand it being off putting
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Sanguinia posted:No, he just retconned Spock's father to have expressed bigotry toward his own newborn child and that overcoming THAT is the reason why Spock became who he is. Clearly a much lesser offense. I mean, that wasn't necessarily new; the long-standing rift between Sarek and Spock was in large part--according to Amanda, anyway--due to Spock choosing Starfleet over the Vulcan Science Academy, the latter of which Sarek felt was far superior to the former. It stands to reason that Sarek's belief in Vulcan superiority manifested itself in other ways at other times; he even says he only married Amanda because it seemed logical.
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I thought he was arrested by section 31 around this time and giving a mind blank and then forced become star fleet? The reason: no reason? I didn't pay attention to discoverys bullshit too closely so i legit forget.
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I think it's hilarious that over time sarek has just become this perverted dude with a human female fetish Well, maybe not haha hilarious but you know what I mean
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ha ha that is so funny ha ha can I see his ears. ha ha it would be a funny joke if you did
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(show me his ears)
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Axe-man posted:I thought he was arrested by section 31 around this time and giving a mind blank and then forced become star fleet? The reason: no reason? No. He was in Starfleet when he went wonky and was arrested, section 31 did not actually manage to mess with his mind, and he rejoined the Enterprise at the end of his arc on Disco. He had already been on the Enterprise before this, under Pike.
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Section 31 is so much better as a general metaphor for "shady stuff your government did that forces you to re-evaluate how you feel about them" than as anything more specific than that Like, they can just drop that bomb that anything in Starfleet's history may or may not have been tainted by 31's involvement, and that's way more interesting. Actually showing specific stuff they did is kind of pointless.
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