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Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

pseudanonymous posted:

Because he's actually a borderline-sociopath and doesn't actcually give a poo poo about the climate but rather his own personal aggrandizement and environmentalism is just something he thinks he can ride to personal power and reward, and he's desperate to get onto the national stage so he can seek a "higher" office?

I loving love it when people post searing hot takes like these and don’t loving bother to provide any examples or explanation.

Claims made:

1. Borderline sociopath.
2. Doesn’t give a poo poo about climate.
3. Cares only for personal aggrandizement and thinks environmentalism is the way to “personal power and reward”. *
4. Desperate to get onto the national stage so he can seek higher office. **

So without any bullshit, can you actually substantiate any of this?

* Lol, environmentalism as the path to power and reward? Are you loving kidding me? Not finance? Not pharma? Not consulting? Not lobbying? Gaming? Silicon Valley poo poo? Environmentalism is the one true path to power and money? loving really?

** And why in a state like WA and not anywhere more populous or purple? His districts while a congressman were in Spokane and Everett, true power centers of the west. Do you actually believe that the national media really gives a gently caress about anything west of the Mississippi outside of occasionally remembering that California exists? Why stop being in congress (and gaining the national spot light and seniority like our senators) and go for governor where he’ll be promptly ignored by the Chuck Todds and Jake Tappers? gently caress, his AG regularly outshines him.

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Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


If Jay Inslee was a sociopath he might have done a better job enforcing the mask mandate

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Xand_Man posted:

If Jay Inslee was a sociopath he might have done a better job enforcing the mask mandate

Yeah, several gym and restaurant owners would be in jail and have their business/liquor licenses cancelled.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
Jay Inslee being a sociopath would actually give him a personality.

In reality, he's trying to ride the line between capitalists and socialists, and so far he's done... ok, I guess? But he could be better. Like at this point you could argue the president has been pushed more to the left than Inslee has.

If we actually had a viable leftist challenger, I'd vote for them just to see how far we can push Inslee before he breaks or gives in.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Solkanar512 posted:

I loving love it when people post searing hot takes like these and don’t loving bother to provide any examples or explanation.

Claims made:

1. Borderline sociopath.
2. Doesn’t give a poo poo about climate.
3. Cares only for personal aggrandizement and thinks environmentalism is the way to “personal power and reward”. *
4. Desperate to get onto the national stage so he can seek higher office. **

So without any bullshit, can you actually substantiate any of this?

* Lol, environmentalism as the path to power and reward? Are you loving kidding me? Not finance? Not pharma? Not consulting? Not lobbying? Gaming? Silicon Valley poo poo? Environmentalism is the one true path to power and money? loving really?

** And why in a state like WA and not anywhere more populous or purple? His districts while a congressman were in Spokane and Everett, true power centers of the west. Do you actually believe that the national media really gives a gently caress about anything west of the Mississippi outside of occasionally remembering that California exists? Why stop being in congress (and gaining the national spot light and seniority like our senators) and go for governor where he’ll be promptly ignored by the Chuck Todds and Jake Tappers? gently caress, his AG regularly outshines him.

The infamously long reach of Big Environmentalism

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


Sodomy Hussein posted:

The infamously long reach of Big Environmentalism

Who else would be paying all the climate scientists to perpetuate the hoax?

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

pseudanonymous posted:

Because he's actually a borderline-sociopath and doesn't actcually give a poo poo about the climate but rather his own personal aggrandizement and environmentalism is just something he thinks he can ride to personal power and reward, and he's desperate to get onto the national stage so he can seek a "higher" office?

lol

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

pseudanonymous posted:

Because he's actually a borderline-sociopath and doesn't actcually give a poo poo about the climate but rather his own personal aggrandizement and environmentalism is just something he thinks he can ride to personal power and reward, and he's desperate to get onto the national stage so he can seek a "higher" office?

As a sociopath he also has no reason to accept any of the basically-pointless positions Biden had any chance of offering him.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
So did Oregon decriminalize all drugs or is there more to it than meets the eye?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

punk rebel ecks posted:

So did Oregon decriminalize all drugs or is there more to it than meets the eye?

Make sure you’re not carrying more than two grams and you’re golden

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


HashtagGirlboss posted:

Make sure you’re not carrying more than two grams and you’re golden

Of anything? Because if you have 2 grams of LSD...

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
Lol, while we wait to hear how “big environmentalism” is the path to personal riches and power...

The Seattle Times

quote:

Tim Eyman, who for two decades has been Washington state’s most prolific conservative activist and political provocateur, committed “numerous and particularly egregious” violations of campaign finance law, a judge ruled Wednesday, as he barred Eyman from controlling the finances of political committees in the future.

The verdict, in a yearslong case in Thurston County Superior Court, could bring an end to Eyman’s years of running anti-tax initiatives that have had outsize influence on the finances of state and local governments.

“Mr. Eyman’s violations had a significant and material impact on the public,” Judge James Dixon ruled. “Mr. Eyman has personally benefited economically from these allegations.”

Dixon barred Eyman from “managing, controlling, negotiating, or directing financial transactions” for any kind of political committee.

Dixon issued a fine of more than $2.6 million. Dixon ruled that Eyman himself is a continuing political committee, under the definition in state law, and should have been filing monthly campaign finance reports for years. Eyman was 2,975 days late in filing reports, as of the start of the trial, Dixon said.

Suck it, rear end in a top hat.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Xand_Man posted:

Of anything? Because if you have 2 grams of LSD...

LMAO unless I'm misremembering it's 40 hits of acid

2 grams is for coke/meth, I think heroin is just 1 gram

Even if you're over that it's just a piddling fine unless you're way over. Let me see if I can dig up the actual numbers

Edit: So I was misremembering kind of. The piddling fine is for the lowest threshold and then it's just a misdeamoner for the larger amounts

quote:

The measure makes possession of the following a noncriminal violation:

Less than 1 gram of heroin.
Less than 1 gram, or less than 5 pills, of MDMA.
Less than 2 grams of methamphetamine.
Less than 40 units of LSD.
Less than 12 grams of psilocybin.
Less than 40 units of methadone.
Less than 40 pills of oxycodone.
Less than 2 grams of cocaine.

The measure also reduces from a felony to a misdemeanor simple possession of substances containing:

1 to 3 grams of heroin.
1 to 4 grams of MDMA.
2 to 8 grams of methamphetamine.
2 to 8 grams of cocaine

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/st...oxy/4318668001/

HashtagGirlboss fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Feb 11, 2021

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

This whole saga has been a mess but this is going to be fun

https://mobile.twitter.com/wweek/status/1360400800065990665

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

HashtagGirlboss posted:

This whole saga has been a mess but this is going to be fun

https://mobile.twitter.com/wweek/status/1360400800065990665

Wow. Bold move, very, very bold.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
One of my favorite youtube channels, Sampson Boat Co., is being bullied by Clallam County over his boat restoration project. It sounds like a single neighbor has been trying to gently caress with his project for the past 3 years and finally got the county to nail him on a creative interpretation of what his business actually is. The county is being weirdly aggressive as well, the board of community development told him straight-up his request for a permit won't be approved by the committee, despite having met all the legal requirements. He really should've gotten a lawyer a lot sooner but he has one now.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Ah local law enforcement trying so hard to win a skeptical public back

https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1367558721899929601

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
Can we get a countdown clock on Kate Brown's term? Very done with that gently caress.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
https://twitter.com/nectarina12/status/1367933888123695105?s=19

Way to go seattle

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

The Puppy Bowl posted:

Can we get a countdown clock on Kate Brown's term? Very done with that gently caress.

Lmao remember when local media smarties whispering that she might get pulled to serve some position or another in the Biden administration? Which made no sense because what did she bring that couldn’t do being a loyal soldier here in Oregon. I am pretty amused at how “open’r up” is totally cool when it’s a Democratic governor though. I did see that all students will have the option of staying remote but I didn’t see that mentioned for any of the teachers or other staff.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Lmao remember when local media smarties whispering that she might get pulled to serve some position or another in the Biden administration? Which made no sense because what did she bring that couldn’t do being a loyal soldier here in Oregon. I am pretty amused at how “open’r up” is totally cool when it’s a Democratic governor though. I did see that all students will have the option of staying remote but I didn’t see that mentioned for any of the teachers or other staff.

Because of half my family members being state employees and haldf of those working for various school districts, I have a little bit of inside baseball knowledge about this process.

I would be ok with the specific school my kids go to opening because it's an awesome magnate school that gets extra funding and support from a really strong parents organization. and seems to be doing the the right way with plenty of warning and lots of planning (which will now be derailed by being put on the governor's timeline). But it wouldn't be equitable to only open the schools where there is extra money and parent support available to smooth the process.

The broader school district I don't trust to do this right, let alone a district as messed up as PPS. TO the north in Clark County, WA, it has been a complete shitshow. The teachers found out 1 week before students were to be in building, at the same time as the parents found out, via the same email. In Battleground school district teachers found out only because some of them had kids in the district and got the email that was intended for parents. Vancouver public schools is not honoring agreements with the teachers union. The contract says that they will provide PPE, and they aren't doing that. THe are also taking away prep time in favor of bringing the kids into the classrooms early just so they don't congregate elsewhere.

I trust the science that if CDC recommendations are followed to a T, then transmission will be low, especially if teachers are all vaccinated. The SHOULD be able to do it. What I do not trust is that school districts will be well resourced enough or organized enough to do that. Even if we got a massive influx of federal dollars, it would take months for them to get organized enough to pull it off. Not that there is any excuse for that. They have had a year to figure it out. But they didn't start planning until they were told by their respective state and local governments that they had to re-open. Part of the problem is that while teachers are often great, management is usually incompetent.

generic one
Oct 2, 2004

I wish I was a little bit taller
I wish I was a baller
I wish I had a wookie in a hat with a bat
And a six four Impala


Nap Ghost

Cross-posted this to the Seattle thread in LAN. One goon may have been a first hand witness.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

therobit posted:

I trust the science that if CDC recommendations are followed to a T, then transmission will be low, especially if teachers are all vaccinated. The SHOULD be able to do it.

I hear you and well said, but I really keyed in on this, because afaik this won’t actually be the case will it? And it seems criminal to me that this isn’t one of the CDC requirements

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

generic one posted:

Cross-posted this to the Seattle thread in LAN. One goon may have been a first hand witness.

Is he a climber?

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

therobit posted:

I trust the science that if CDC recommendations are followed to a T, then transmission will be low, especially if teachers are all vaccinated. The SHOULD be able to do it.

The CDC recommendations are a joke and there's no mandate that the teachers need to be fully vaccinated. Like do you actually trust that this poo poo is either a) going to be implementable in schools or b) going to prevent the spread of an aerosol respiratory virus in a room full of kids?



Meanwhile, studies elsewhere showed that kids in school were far more likely to bring COVID back home and spread it to their families than adults were.

https://twitter.com/Dr2NisreenAlwan/status/1345661874302578689?s=20

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

The Oldest Man posted:

The CDC recommendations are a joke and there's no mandate that the teachers need to be fully vaccinated. Like do you actually trust that this poo poo is either a) going to be implementable in schools or b) going to prevent the spread of an aerosol respiratory virus in a room full of kids?



Meanwhile, studies elsewhere showed that kids in school were far more likely to bring COVID back home and spread it to their families than adults were.

https://twitter.com/Dr2NisreenAlwan/status/1345661874302578689?s=20

Did you just miss the part where I said I don't trust the school districts to be able to implement it due to lack of organization and lack of resources?

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
You also shouldn't trust your lovely magnet school. Forcing teachers back in school is going to kill a bunch of people, including many children, but it'll be hard to directly trace and impossible to hold anyone accountable so oh well. Definitely worth it for...two months of school before summer starts. I'm sure those 2 months will make all the difference for the children's lifetime trajectories.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
In Oregon I think we will have most Elementary teachers vaccinated by March 29th. Certainly the Kindergarten and 1st grade teachers have been already, because at the beginning they were restricting vaccinations to younger grade teachers. Our kids' school district had only been planning to open k-1 on march 29th and was going to be phasing in 2-5 in mid April, and middle schools later than that. They are doing about 2 hours of in person instruction on Monday and Tuesday for half of the kids who's parents are opting for hybrid, remote only on Wednesday, and then the other half of them Thursday and Friday. No lunch at school, but brown bags for free and reduced lunch kids to go home with. I think that would be possible to do safely, and at the school my kids go to I think it would be done correctly. But again, the broader school district I have my doubts about.

I think there is an important social and psychological benefit to kids attending in person school. I just also think that most school districts are not capable of doing it safely enough to make it worth it. Our kids are learning but they would be doing a lot better emotionally if they were having some in-person school. I feel less safe about this now that the Governor is setting the timeline instead of school districts.

My wife is a teacher, so I am very aware of how teachers are feeling being forced back to work. In the district we live in they informed teachers ahead of time and gave parents at least a month notice ahead of opening k-01. Given vaccines have been available for teachers for a month in OR at this point and we still have 3 weeks until kids are back to school, I think that' somewhat reasonable. My district also appears to have options for remote only and hopefully teachers with high risk family members at home can be slotted into.

My wife teaches in WA and we got next to no notice. They told the parents before telling the teachers or their union. They haven't honored their agreements with the union to provide PPE. Nobody is being allowed to remain remote. Any my wife has only been vaccinated at this point because she lives in OR. WA just opened it up for teachers last week or something, but they were back mid-February. It's a total loving shitshow up north. I don't think it will be nearly as bad down here.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
Schools should stay closed, period.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

George posted:

Schools should stay closed, period.

Especially now when we're low single digit months from mass vaccinations and we've managed to avoid a CA, TX, or NY-level disaster through a few good choices and a ton of luck, it seems absolutely insane to throw people into the grinder.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




Going on two months no issues on voluntary half day k-1 out in the Snoqualmie district.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Bar Ran Dun posted:

Going on two months no issues on voluntary half day k-1 out in the Snoqualmie district.

I'm curious how many actual people (students and teachers) this is.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
A friend of mines kid I guess was forced back into school in marysville, wa a few weeks ago I guess and he was saying he got a warning of exposure literally 1 day into it.

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G
I have friends who are teachers who are younger and got vaccinated. That's good. The priority process should meant that if young teachers are living with older people, the older people and immuno-compromised should be also vaccinated. Assuming that, is there a reason we can't start phased return to school?. I understand the reluctance but we need to be reasonable about the roles schools play as subsidized day care.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Oscar Wild posted:

I have friends who are teachers who are younger and got vaccinated. That's good. The priority process should meant that if young teachers are living with older people, the older people and immuno-compromised should be also vaccinated. Assuming that, is there a reason we can't start phased return to school?. I understand the reluctance but we need to be reasonable about the roles schools play as subsidized day care.

Because children can be maimed by COVID and still die from it even if it is at lower rates than adults and won't be able to be vaccinated for what appears to be at least another year?

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012
Also because children are fuckin' disease goblin super spreaders at the best of times.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Oscar Wild posted:

I have friends who are teachers who are younger and got vaccinated. That's good. The priority process should meant that if young teachers are living with older people, the older people and immuno-compromised should be also vaccinated. Assuming that, is there a reason we can't start phased return to school?. I understand the reluctance but we need to be reasonable about the roles schools play as subsidized day care.

Because kids spread covid to each other and the people they live with.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
And again this is for severely diminished value since they'll only be in school from April to June. Restarting hybrid for everyone in the heavily immunized future of September is very obviously the better idea.

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.
i think that there is a solution to this problem that will appease those looking to reinvigorate their child's social lives, relieve many working class parents from the burden of 24/7 childcare, and allow teachers to provide relatively safe instruction to their students so that we do not continue stymying their education. in this essay i will review many of the successes, failures, and practical ways to implement what is commonly referred to as 'the 2020 nba orlando bubble option'

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HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

i think that there is a solution to this problem that will appease those looking to reinvigorate their child's social lives, relieve many working class parents from the burden of 24/7 childcare, and allow teachers to provide relatively safe instruction to their students so that we do not continue stymying their education. in this essay i will review many of the successes, failures, and practical ways to implement what is commonly referred to as 'the 2020 nba orlando bubble option'

This all sounds well and good until you learn your kid is the James Harden of their class

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