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Sassafras posted:you have clearly never used btrfs on a production machine if you nurse these doubts if you wanted something that worked, you wouldn't be using fedora
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if you wanted something that worked you absolutely would be using fedora tyvm every time somebody asks for linux recs there's always some useless nerd who pop!s up to recommend a derivative of a derivative of a hobbyist linux distribution. what you have to realize is that there are two groups of people who use linux: 1. people who want to use a computer as a means to an end 2. people whose hobby is installing and configuring computer software if you're in group 1 then use a distro that is at least distantly related to a supported commercial product. and no, not one made by the company that's constantly doing bad-faith poo poo to try to infect the linux ecosystem with their IP that they hold exclusive rights to. basically use red hat or idk maybe suse if you're german. if you're in group 2 then sure install whatever stupid poo poo you want but understand that group 1 doesn't share your particular set of priorities and adjust your recommendations accordingly.
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what distro does stallman use
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pram posted:what distro does stallman use https://trisquel.info/
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pram posted:what distro does stallman use beaten but apparently it's a free (as in speech) version of ubuntu, ymmv
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Private Speech posted:beaten but apparently it's a free (as in speech) version of ubuntu, ymmv isnt that literally debian lmao
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Sapozhnik posted:if you wanted something that worked you absolutely would be using fedora tyvm My main complaints with Fedora 33 were: 1: Limited software availability (at least compared to Arch and Arch derivatives), even with the non-free repo enabled and flathub. 2: Gnome software manager sucks rear end in Fedora and uses a different package manager than the terminal one (DNF). The DNF gui just crashed all the time and was basically unusable. 3: As stated before, the inability copy and paste between windows thanks to the new window manager for Gnome in Fedora, Wayland. 4: Pretty pointless use of BTRFS in Fedora 33 since it doesn't support any of the actual useful snapshotting abilities of it or checksumming and just exposes you to all the broken stuff about it.
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as someone who exclusively uses linux to accomplish very specific tasks, i can say that i don't use fedora, because it does not work to accomplish those tasks. it might if i spent a lot of time loving with it, but instead, i use whatever distro allows me to accomplish the task i intend, because that task isn't loving with my distro to get the tools i need.
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Debian or Ubuntu according to what frequency you want to deal with minor change-related bullshit breakage. Debian stable = lots, every few years Ubuntu = some, every six months Debian testing / unstable = occasionally at complete random
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the best distro for all purposes is Debian stable. you can use other things but they’re not as good
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pram posted:isnt that literally debian lmao i'd just like to interject for a moment...
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Nomnom Cookie posted:the best distro for all purposes is Debian stable. you can use other things but they’re not as good This
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It Just Works
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roll that beautiful nbsd footage
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PCjr sidecar posted:roll that beautiful nbsd footage Notorious b.s.d. posted:The problem with Ubuntu isn't a matter of taste. It's not that I don't like Unity, or I have bad feelings about Shuttleworth, or that the logo doesn't agree with me. It's much more fundamental: The Ubuntu model for development is broken.
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That's why Ubuntu = update every six months, yeah.
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Antigravitas posted:However, a drive making GBS threads that many errors could also be a bad connection. If it's socketed, it may be worth taking it out and putting it in again. Just be gentle doing it, especially if it's your first time handling it. Antigravitas posted:Actually, it just occurred to me that a smart error wouldn't be a connection issue, or rather the connection would be the solder. So disregard what I wrote, my brain has turned to mush from work… no you're brain is correct in remembering that smart errors can be connection issue. sata smart has a link layer crc error counter which reports this. i have seen many, many people think they're drive is dead because it threw a shitload of smart errors, but it was just a bad sata cable where you went wrong is that this drive's nvme. i don't think nvme bothers reporting pcie link health in its version of smart, because that should be covered by other resources in the system (the root complex and any bridges) more to the point, the drive's reporting media errors, so its flash is hosed
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Nomnom Cookie posted:btrfs is the filesystem for nerds with waifus and twitter set to notify every time Elon musk tweets. it is the “I loving love science” filesystem. the only valid reason to ever format a drive with btrfs is deliberately setting up lovely systems so your rear end in a top hat boss will suffer after you quit. don’t use btrfs
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pram posted:isnt that literally debian lmao rms doesn't like debian because it has the optional non-free repository which taints the entire distribution and actively restricts your freedoms
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i wonder how deb feels knowing that ian's linux distribution named after her is still in use by millions of horrible nerds every day
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Sagebrush posted:i wonder how deb feels knowing that ian's linux distribution named after her is still in use by millions of horrible nerds every day Clearly better than Ian did!
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true members of the cult of the graybeard only use devuan, a pure os free from the influlence of lennart poettering, destroyer of init scripts
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oh wow, beowulf
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 lol, what the hell are virtually all of these? And clearly Arch has lost its "it" factor.
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but there's a wiki! A wiki!
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mycophobia posted:rms doesn't like debian because it has the optional non-free repository which taints the entire distribution and actively restricts your freedoms lmao
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Sassafras posted:
zorin? how can you not want to run an os named after an 80s bond villain who wanted to destroy silicon valley?
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The_Franz posted:zorin? how can you not want to run an os named after an 80s bond villain who wanted to destroy silicon valley? When you think about it, he was actually the hero.
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lol gentoo is not even on the list
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well you see before i installed fedora i tried to install debian and it did not go well something about it not being compatible with my laptop
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Sassafras posted:lol, what the hell are virtually all of these? Manjaro is based on Arch. probably people who want to use arch but don't want to deal with actually setting it up themselves.
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hbag posted:well you see before i installed fedora i tried to install debian and it did not go well pfft. kids these days. expecting hardware support for laptops in linux. what a world
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on the other hand, use ubuntu it is good (actually dont do that, use kubuntu)
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Tankakern posted:fedora will never suggest to combine lvm and btrfs, if you got that on your system somehow you've done hosed up im posting from a laptop with a nvme disk with 768mb btrfs /boot, rest of the disk is lvm, btrfs root and home inside in one lv, swap in the other had to set it up by hand, but it works great especially with taking btrfs snapshots of all btrfs subvolumes on every boot, i wanted /boot to be included in that
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Lysidas posted:im posting from a laptop with a nvme disk with 768mb btrfs /boot, rest of the disk is lvm, btrfs root and home inside in one lv, swap in the other What does lvm give you here that regular old partitions would not (this is basically what I have). Assuming you're not wanting to resize your swap LV every week or something
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Rufus Ping posted:What does lvm give you here that regular old partitions would not (this is basically what I have). Assuming you're not wanting to resize your swap LV every week or something oh crap i totally forgot to mention that the lvm pv is inside a luks container, so root/home filesystem and swap inside are both encrypted, /boot just hosts the kernel and initrd with the default ubuntu scripts to ask for a passphrase and mount things disk = efi system partition, btrfs boot, luks container luks container = lvm pv when decrypted lvm pv = swap lv, btrfs lv for root/home
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Sapozhnik posted:sorry about your linux experiences op silverblue is neat. I’ve been trialing it in a VM over the last couple of months, and I think I might give it a shot for real, soon. Linuxes are fun and good aside from the bad ones, which are most of them.
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Lysidas posted:disk = efi system partition, btrfs boot, luks container but why?
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Insanite posted:silverblue is neat. I’ve been trialing it in a VM over the last couple of months, and I think I might give it a shot for real, soon. One of the things I really like about linux is how the whole VM infrastructure is built directly into the kernel. If you're just dicking around with VM's and want a simple and straightforward interface you can use Gnome Boxes and download and autosetup a good chunk of the linux distros completely hands off. If you want to have more control you can use VMM. Either way, they both use the same built in support in Linux.
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