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Sherlock Watson is portrayed as having fought in Afghanistan, which is certainly one major bumble.
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Mar 9, 2021 18:57
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I don't think there's a single person who will defend midichlorians or Jar Jar 
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Mar 9, 2021 19:06
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I remember at least one short story where Watson kinda takes on a case and does pretty well.
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Mar 9, 2021 19:11
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hbomb’s prequel video will be the positive counterpart to the red letter media Plinkett review. Balance to the Force, at long last. hbomb’s is more likely to age better though
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Mar 9, 2021 19:19
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He will never release a prequel video as he just did that for attention and we are long past the point where he needs that
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Mar 9, 2021 19:25
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josh04 posted:Sherlock Watson is portrayed as having fought in Afghanistan, which is certainly one major bumble. didn't the original Watson also fight in Afghanistan? I guess the show was trying to be glib, but it comes off as rather bleak.
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Mar 9, 2021 19:31
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Vagabong posted:didn't the original Watson also fight in Afghanistan? I guess the show was trying to be glib, but it comes off as rather bleak. He did, so perhaps the evidence has always been there.
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Mar 9, 2021 19:33
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The original Watson indeed got wounded in Afganistan in his shoulder ( though ACD kept switching it up in later stories, so sometimes its his leg ) and nearly died of a typhoid fever while in the hospital recovering from the gunshot wound. A Study in Pink is full of little nods to a Study in Scarlett like that.
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Mar 9, 2021 19:36
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CharlestheHammer posted:He will never release a prequel video as he just did that for attention and we are long past the point where he needs that You think this fact will stop hbombguy? Come on now!
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Mar 9, 2021 19:38
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Hbomb's overlapping conclusion on Sherlock and RWBY is that they're shows that threaten to be good. The resources are there, but the direction is off. A work that is disappointing is worse than a work that is merely bad. The Legend of Korra, no contest.
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Mar 9, 2021 19:54
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Dias posted:I fell off super hard after Deathly Hallows 1 (well, more like after Half-Blood Prince, to be honest), so I sympathize with that feeling. Kinda wonder what their takes were on the first three or four books, I've been meaning to reread them since I haven't touched any HP stuff since forever and a half. They liked Prisoner of Azkaban as much as they were expecting to, but they were surprised by how much they enjoyed the first book, as it's genuinely the funniest of the series and Ron is actually a likable character. Chamber of Secrets on the other hand they are really down on, partly because it kicked off the whole House Elf thing.
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Mar 9, 2021 20:01
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I don't think there's a single person who will defend midichlorians or Jar Jar nah, those can be defended because both of those things support and are supported by one of the core tenants of the prequel trilogy: The Jedi are bad, actually, and also don't know poo poo anymore. obviously, you gotta read the text real deep to get to that, but that's the price you pay to get anything worthwhile out of the prequel trilogy. they're truly terrible films to watch but Lucas was literally inventing the techniques used to make literally every movie now when he made them
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Mar 9, 2021 20:01
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Ariong posted:The actual premise is that they were both huge Harry Potter fans as children and growing into adulthood, and now that public (and their own personal) perception if the series has shifted they’re going back and rereading them. I find them to be very fair qnd evenhanded. I made the comment about negativity because I listen to a lot of bad movie/book/media podcasts and while most are self aware about it I do worry that its maybe not the healthiest way to live my life so I've been trying to add some more positive stuff is all.
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Mar 9, 2021 20:03
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iirc sherlock values watson highly because while he has a layperson perspective it's a particularly smart, well-educated, and experienced layperson perspective, contrasted against the bumbling police
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Mar 9, 2021 20:03
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egg tats posted:nah, those can be defended They're bad in and out of the story.
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Mar 9, 2021 20:08
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Mr Phillby posted:Yeah I already listened to the first episode and its a refisit from a pair of fans who fell out of love with the series long before Rowling went full TERF. The fact they have a personal relationship with the series that has changed over time is what makes it interesting to me. It helps that they love trashy media so a lot of the negativity comes across as bemused ribbing (unless the chapter they read is heinous enough to deserve actual hate). Like, they'll laugh at the books doing a "Hagrid's hut clusterfuck" where a million important characters just randomly show up in Hagrid's hut to talk about the plot, but they're clearly very happy the books are often just bizarre nonsense. Snape being the embodiment of this, since he's a delightfully catty bitch who invented the sword spell and can fly with zero explanation and generally makes the story much more entertaining every time he is on the page. They also still love the fandom itself in all its goofiness, so almost all of the second segments are good fun, like their long efforts to make a convincing-enough fake redditor to get invited to the private Slitherin subreddit, and their love of how genuinely cool it ended up being. Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 20:16
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Oddly the thing I think of most when I think of HP is the MsScribe Saga which I could have sworn Sarah Z did a video on but was apparently somebody else.
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Mar 9, 2021 20:53
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Dawgstar posted:Oddly the thing I think of most when I think of HP is the MsScribe Saga which I could have sworn Sarah Z did a video on but was apparently somebody else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_DZd78WLQY
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Mar 9, 2021 20:54
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Pigbuster posted:It helps that they love trashy media so a lot of the negativity comes across as bemused ribbing (unless the chapter they read is heinous enough to deserve actual hate). Like, they'll laugh at the books doing a "Hagrid's hut clusterfuck" where a million important characters just randomly show up in Hagrid's hut to talk about the plot, but they're clearly very happy the books are often just bizarre nonsense. Snape being the embodiment of this, since he's a delightfully catty bitch who invented the sword spell and can fly with zero explanation and generally makes the story much more entertaining every time he is on the page. They also still love the fandom itself in all its goofiness, so almost all of the second segments are good fun, like their long efforts to make a convincing-enough fake redditor to get invited to the private Slitherin subreddit, and their love of how genuinely cool it ended up being. I'm terrible at expressing myself, I don't want to seem like I'm saying the podcast is bad for being negative (or even that its noteworthily negative!) Or that JK doesn't deserve it (she absolutely does) I'm just trying to balance my media crit podcasts so that every one isn't about some long form media the hosts have complicated negative feelings toward. I'm listening to a Kingdom Hearts podcast for example, and I get to vicariously enjoy something bizzare and impenetrable to me through the infectious enthusiasm of the hosts. Still have no idea what a kingdom heart is is but at least I now understand that Sora is a good anime boy and thats enough for the people who like it.
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Mar 9, 2021 20:57
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Yardbomb posted:They're bad in and out of the story. this is your fault Yardbomb. you made this post happen listen, Jar Jar is directed REAL bad, and maybe written worse. No one's going to say otherwise, but that isn't really a unique situation in the prequels but what happens with Jar Jar, is that we see the jedi fall out of the sky onto him, immediately let himself give his freedom to him, and then they treat him like an unpleasant pest right up until the minute they can place him as a jedi-sympathetic gungan leader. this is extremely not good guy poo poo. and the prequel trilogies present us with a declining jedi order. their powers are inconsistent, their ability to see the future is clouded, at best. they're supposed to be living humble monk lives, but instead they're the secret police of the republic. there's simply no reason in the text to suspect that when they say midochlorians cause force sensitivity is right. maybe trying to scientifically measure the force is, itself, one of the things causing their downfall. and, again, to appreciate what the prequels are trying to do, you need to bring so, so much to the table yourself. ol George doesn't make this easy, the movies are poorly made, and they're so very boring, but there's, like, a skeleton of a good movie in there! George just wasn't interested in anything but the technology so he didn't make that movie. that's it, that's the defense of both Jar Jar and Midochlorians. I hope this makes you happy Yardbomb, I did it for YOU. edit: vvvvvvvv that's not surprising, they're both about the last gasps of a dying intergalactic empire unwilling to admit that it is an empire. I've really gotta play kotor 1 and 2 someday egg tats fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Mar 9, 2021 |
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Mar 9, 2021 20:58
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It is remarkable that everytime the good possible version of the prequels are described, it's just the good parts of KotOR 2. Which itself came out in the middle of the prequel series.
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Mar 9, 2021 21:01
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Maggie Mae Fish - RAMBO!!!... And the David Lynch you haven't seen. https://youtu.be/HRnEjsdjtks
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Mar 9, 2021 21:10
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I'll check that Harry Potter podcast, I follow The West Wing Thing this could be similar.
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Mar 9, 2021 21:17
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achillesforever6 posted:It's amazing how much better Rick Riordan is as a YA writer and also not a godawful human being To be fair, you could pretty much pick any YA author who was publishing books when you were young and are probably better than Rowling ended up being, if only because she's down in the bottom percentile "Anne McCaffrey/Mercedes Lackey-tier." Mr Phillby posted:I'm listening to a Kingdom Hearts podcast for example, and I get to vicariously enjoy something bizzare and impenetrable to me through the infectious enthusiasm of the hosts. Still have no idea what a kingdom heart is is but at least I now understand that Sora is a good anime boy and thats enough for the people who like it. Kingdom Hearts is alternating repetitions of "heart," "darkness," "friendship," "light," "memories," and "Sora-Donald-Goofy" spiraling away into the void infinitely. And sometimes it remembers to have Disney or Final Fantasy characters say some combination of those words.
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Mar 9, 2021 21:21
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CYBEReris posted:iirc sherlock values watson highly because while he has a layperson perspective it's a particularly smart, well-educated, and experienced layperson perspective, contrasted against the bumbling police he is also smart in areas holmes isnt. so that helps balance poo poo out. CharlestheHammer posted:He will never release a prequel video as he just did that for attention and we are long past the point where he needs that my hot take is TPM was the best prequel. like its still bad and dumb alot but there is enough there that the sequels could have been good and its mostly aged well graphics wise because people are on actual sound stages and places. 2 is the worst on all levels and 3 is the second worst but most disappointing.
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Mar 9, 2021 21:50
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Pants Donkey posted:hbomb’s is more likely to age better though Absolutely not.
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Mar 9, 2021 22:15
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Nuns with Guns posted:To be fair, you could pretty much pick any YA author who was publishing books when you were young and are probably better than Rowling ended up being, if only because she's down in the bottom percentile "Anne McCaffrey/Mercedes Lackey-tier." What are the latter two guilty of?
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Mar 9, 2021 22:19
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Nuns with Guns posted:To be fair, you could pretty much pick any YA author who was publishing books when you were young and are probably better than Rowling ended up being, if only because she's down in the bottom percentile "Anne McCaffrey/Mercedes Lackey-tier." Not Marion Zimmer Bradley-level bad though.
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Mar 9, 2021 22:33
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Dapper_Swindler posted:my hot take is TPM was the best prequel. like its still bad and dumb alot but there is enough there that the sequels could have been good and its mostly aged well graphics wise because people are on actual sound stages and places. 2 is the worst on all levels and 3 is the second worst but most disappointing. Reflecting on it, at least TPM was a decent enough individual movie. It meanders and fucks around too much and it was the birth of "OH MY GOD, Anakin made C-3PO and R2-D2 is Darth Vader's wife's droid, isn't that cool!" But there's a decent little adventure movie hiding out in it. AotC is a nothing movie that's only worth is its role in the trilogy and I remember not liking Revenge of the Sith when it came out because it was so focused on building the creaky bridge to Episode 4. Also. Let's Game Out messes around with Valheim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgFzP5m1k_c
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Mar 9, 2021 22:47
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It's still wild somebody made a career (sort of) out of mediocre fan fiction and crafting elaborate scenarios where you always had the most cutting remark handy on Livejournal just to hang out with the popular kids who wrote slightly better fanfiction.
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Mar 9, 2021 22:51
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MonsieurChoc posted:Not Marion Zimmer Bradley-level bad though. Beat me to it.
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Mar 9, 2021 22:51
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This will always amaze me because of just how utterly low the stakes were.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:02
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Yardbomb posted:They're bad in and out of the story. "Out of the story" midiclorians are just the x-gene from the x-men and Jar Jar is just a cartoonish goof ala Goofy, and people like both just fine.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:16
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Setting up The Force as some neat space wizardy and then turning it into lame test tube poo poo blows. Really trying to lab out cool fantasy aspects of settings is most often terrible and ruins it.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:20
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Schwarzwald posted:"Out of the story" midiclorians are just the x-gene from the x-men and Jar Jar is just a cartoonish goof ala Goofy, and people like both just fine. Jar Jar is a racist caricature.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:25
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I enjoyed the HP books as a late teen myself, but I quickly felt that it all peaked at Prisoner of Azkaban and that the later books had decent to good chapters buried in a plot that made no sense and got hamstrung by the 'every book takes a full year' gimmick.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:33
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Jar jar also isn’t even the only racist caricature in the prequels either
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Mar 9, 2021 23:33
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DekeThornton posted:It's not really true to the books though. Watson in the books is a skilled and intelligent doctor who just isn't the genius that Holmes is. He is generally quite competent. Him being portrayed like a bumbling fool is more down to adaptations like the old Basil Rathbone films. Stupid Watson!   I miss Hark! A Vagrant.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:35
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DeafNote posted:I enjoyed the HP books as a late teen myself, but I quickly felt that it all peaked at Prisoner of Azkaban and that the later books had decent to good chapters buried in a plot that made no sense and got hamstrung by the 'every book takes a full year' gimmick. That the page count inflated for no good reason immediately afterwards makes it obvious that Goblet of Fire is where she could, would and did start just straight up ignoring her editors. You could cut them all in half (if not more) from that point onwards and likely not lose anything of value.
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Mar 9, 2021 23:35
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CharlestheHammer posted:Jar jar also isn’t even the only racist caricature in the prequels either
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Mar 9, 2021 23:36
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