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where are you all booking these appointments, https://www.vaccinateca.com/? everything around me says its for age 65+ or current patients.
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Shear Modulus posted:sure is a coincidence that the news says all the microchips have run out right as they start mass producing the vaccines huh
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Kuvo posted:where are you all booking these appointments, https://www.vaccinateca.com/? everything around me says its for age 65+ or current patients. the official state site is https://myturn.ca.gov. this is how i was able to book for the oakland coliseum site 99% of the time it says no available appointments. you need to check it multiple times a day. then when it does say it has available appointments you need to try multiple times before it'll give you one. cvs and walgreens also have appointment booking things on their sites too
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Mar 5, 2021 23:25
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I for one look forward to Newsom being recalled and replaced with Governor Oppenrup (R) Given that it's an open primary, that's equally or even less likely then him being replaced with a demsoc. TBH if I held many of the primary opinions of the forum I'd be rooting for a recall because it would allow such a candidate to bypass the party's good-boy network.
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Craptacular! posted:Given that it's an open primary, that's equally or even less likely then him being replaced with a demsoc. TBH if I held many of the primary opinions of the forum I'd be rooting for a recall because it would allow such a candidate to bypass the party's good-boy network.
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TheMopeSquad posted:I've heard people get shots for saying they're "caregivers" because they take care of their aging parents. why the scare quotes friend
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Kuvo posted:where are you all booking these appointments, https://www.vaccinateca.com/? everything around me says its for age 65+ or current patients. I'm in Orange County, and I booked vaccines for my parents through the Othena site. You can get there from the Orange County Public Health web page.
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OMGVBFLOL posted:why the scare quotes friend Those are bullshit quotes, not scare quotes.
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Disneyland is opening April 1 lol
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Theme parks are only cleared for 15% capacity I think. Which isn't really going to help anything but sure does make it look like they're doing something!
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Remember when we first shut down non-essential business last year and there was an explicit exception for Disneyland, because Gavin is a loving spineless corporate puppet? And then the press was so bad Disney had to come out like the same day and say they were shutting down Disneyland anyway? lol
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Sydin posted:Remember when we first shut down non-essential business last year and there was an explicit exception for Disneyland, because Gavin is a loving spineless corporate puppet? And then the press was so bad Disney had to come out like the same day and say they were shutting down Disneyland anyway? yeah and the lesson gavin learned was that he had to cave even harder to big business
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It's a very light capacity and apparently is only open to people from non-purple counties? Either way, I wouldn't go without a vaccine.
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Mar 6, 2021 19:45
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all this to avoid just paying people to stay home
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OMGVBFLOL posted:all this to avoid just paying people to stay home TWO. WEEKS. I don't think I'll be able to live the rest of my life without remembering that we, as a country, couldn't figure out a way to stay inside for two loving weeks. to save half a million lives! e: lol "doggie" instead of "figure"? Really, Mr. Phone? Rainbow Knight fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Mar 7, 2021 |
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Rainbow Knight posted:to save half a million lives! More Americans died from Covid than combat in ww1, ww2 and Vietnam combined.
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Rainbow Knight posted:TWO. WEEKS. I think what really gets me is how many Americans lost loved ones to COVID and just... aren't really all that upset about it. Sure, maybe they're sad about losing a grandparent or parent, but this was as preventable as a mass shooting and tens of thousands of times more devastating. Yet no survivors have been given airtime to grieve and demand action from their representatives. Yes, nothing would be done either way. But at least with gun control people get mad about it, dedicate their lives to fighting for it. With COVID, so many people have died, and everyone's just like "ahhh gently caress, hope this is over soon."
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Probably because hundreds of awful news stories about people losing their loved ones to COVID don’t drive clicks or ad revenue like the endless stories involving a lunatic walking into target or Costco and screaming about their rights
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droll posted:More Americans died from Covid than combat in ww1, ww2 and Vietnam combined. By my reckoning it’s the third deadliest event in American history behind only the Spanish flu and the civil war. It’s probably going to be #1 by the time it’s all said and done.
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Yeah this is epic. It's going to define generations. Its so different than wars and the Spanish flu though, because those killed so many more young people. This mostly killed our most experienced and wise.
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droll posted:This mostly killed our most experienced and wise. You spelled selfish boomer assholes wrong.
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I mean, there have been tons of interviews on MSM with survivors who lost loved ones to COVID. Like a whole lot. It’s just that the same people that don’t care already don’t watch those channels.
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Rainbow Knight posted:TWO. WEEKS. Maybe things were different in various California counties, but next state over I can say out poo poo was either shut down or curbside delivery from March until May. My understanding was that they always knew a second wave was going to come. The closure was mostly an extreme measure to keep things under control until testing was available and reliable, since it was too drat hard to even figure out if your cough was related or not early on. Japan has done a way better job than we have and are far more experienced with airborne flu because of their density, but even they had a fuckup involving bars at some point. The problem is bigger than Trump, but having a guy at the top who believes in quackery and didn’t want you to know you were sick because you might stop working sends reverberations through how everybody else treats the thing.
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Craptacular! posted:My understanding was that they always knew a second wave was going to come. The closure was mostly an extreme measure to keep things under control until testing was available and reliable, since it was too drat hard to even figure out if your cough was related or not early on.. The long incubation period and relatively small cases made it so people weren't taking precautions early on. The lock downs changed that. And yes, the second wave (fall/winter coinciding with flu season) was looming large the whole time.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I think what really gets me is how many Americans lost loved ones to COVID and just... aren't really all that upset about it. Sure, maybe they're sad about losing a grandparent or parent, but this was as preventable as a mass shooting and tens of thousands of times more devastating. Yet no survivors have been given airtime to grieve and demand action from their representatives. Rich people will give your nonprofit big grants to help you disarm their employees and the poor. They aren't willing to give money to a cause that would reduce their power. I hope this helps.
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e.pilot posted:You spelled selfish boomer assholes wrong. In SoCal the hardest hit communities are immigrants working in agriculture and PoC folks working in “essential workplaces”, i.e. manufacturing, fabrication and retail. The black and brown death rate is something like 3x higher than whites. It’s not just the “selfish boomers” dying here. I really hate that framing. It’s once again the poor who can’t afford to stay home
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Craptacular! posted:Japan has done a way better job than we have and are far more experienced with airborne flu because of their density, but even they had a fuckup involving bars at some point. The problem is bigger than Trump, but having a guy at the top who believes in quackery and didn’t want you to know you were sick because you might stop working sends reverberations through how everybody else treats the thing. Japan definitely didn't do a better job, at least not the government. On the whole, mask discipline is much better, obviously, but almost nothing got closed. Schools closed for a couple weeks last spring, but quickly re-opened and have been in person ever since (also they lost most of their summer vacation to make up for the closure). No businesses have been closed. Tokyo has more telework but other places just appear to be life as normal. A kid at my coworker's kid's school tested positive and they closed the school for 1.5 days and tested only the students within a couple desks of the positive student. Testing is impossible to get - Japan basically did what Trump wanted to do. Don't test and the virus doesn't exist. Kids in school are still doing club activities, including 30 kids sitting in a room for a couple hours together blowing on instruments. And, of course, don't forget the Japan's government's program to subsidize travel in the middle of a pandemic in order to save the economy, a program that was linked to multiple clusters before it was finally shut down. Though, after all that, the death rate is MUCH lower. Maybe general health related? Less obesity, almost universal access to health care, longstanding tradition of mask wearing, and as you said a long history of flu containment. But - that just means fewer deaths. Since there is next to no testing going on, it is impossible to know the extent of infections and considering how damaging the virus appears to be - permanent lung and heart damage even in mild (and some studies suggest asymptomatic) cases, I'm not sure I would be cheering Japan's response. Taiwan on the other hand, is absolutely a response that the entire world should be looking at and emulating, or at least modeling future pandemic responses after.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Japan definitely didn't do a better job, at least not the government. The government is paying certain superspreader businesses to stay closed (or at least someone i know online is being paid to be closed, might be a local thing). That's automatically better than what we're doing. Tuxedo Gin posted:considering how damaging the virus appears to be - permanent lung and heart damage even in mild (and some studies suggest asymptomatic) cases, I'm not sure I would be cheering Japan's response. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine that was just approved, like some of the other vaccines, is successful in preventing death and Doctors going from Fauci himself downward are pivoting to that being the real goal that matters and telling people to stop on efficacy of preventing infection so drat much. So I wouldn't measure success in preventing the lasting damage the virus causes, because those of us under 50 (and those in poorer countries) are not going to be vaccinated against that. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 7, 2021 |
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Craptacular! posted:The government is paying certain superspreader businesses to stay closed (or at least someone i know online is being paid to be closed, might be a local thing). That's automatically better than what we're doing. The government also spent months paying individuals to travel around the country, so I'm not sure that that is automatically better. And as for the pivot, I'm convinced that is simply because they realize the spread is unstoppable due to government and social failures. Some places, like Taiwan, were absolutely able to prevent infections and people have been able to largely go about life as normal due to the initial response. I'm personally not willing to move the goalposts to forgive initial failings. "An entire generation is riddled with lasting physical damage and medical complications, but at least we prevented deaths" doesn't cut it for me when preventing the lasting damage was doable, too, except that the economy - especially the prevention of the people from getting a taste of socialism - and in Japan's case, the Olympics, were deemed more important. You're right that Japan is absolutely better off since we don't have the deathcount here that the US has, but the government response deserves no praise. It has been blunder after stupid blunder, often in the name of not canceling the Olympics.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Taiwan on the other hand, is absolutely a response that the entire world should be looking at and emulating, or at least modeling future pandemic responses after. South Korea as well. Or Australia. Or NZ. Rainbow Knight posted:TWO. WEEKS. While I agree with your sentiment it would have had to have been more like 6 weeks, if Australia is any indication.
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The Western Australia response in particular has been really good, because they took the extra step of restricting travel into the state even from other Autralian states until they got under a certain infection rate (Morrison even tried suing the state over it to force them open lol). I've got a couple friends who live in Perth and they're pretty much back to 100% normalcy, hell the two of them went to a concert the other week. They had their first community transition of COVID in months back in January: a guard at a quarantine site (imagine that: actual quarantine sites with actual guards. Novel!) and they shut the whole state down for a week to do contact tracing and ensure nobody else had it. Pretty much everything but grocery stores, pharmacies, and essential work places like hospitals, emergency services, and utilities was shut down. They did the testing, no other cases, were able to open right back up safely. Listening to them talk about their normal daily lives is surreal.
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Sydin posted:The Western Australia response in particular has been really good, because they took the extra step of restricting travel into the state even from other Autralian states until they got under a certain infection rate (Morrison even tried suing the state over it to force them open lol). I've got a couple friends who live in Perth and they're pretty much back to 100% normalcy, hell the two of them went to a concert the other week. They had their first community transition of COVID in months back in January: a guard at a quarantine site (imagine that: actual quarantine sites with actual guards. Novel!) and they shut the whole state down for a week to do contact tracing and ensure nobody else had it. Pretty much everything but grocery stores, pharmacies, and essential work places like hospitals, emergency services, and utilities was shut down. They did the testing, no other cases, were able to open right back up safely. Listening to them talk about their normal daily lives is surreal. that's not fair they had practice locking boat people on islands all america had is practice incarcerating millions and millions of people for decades
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america isn't going to jail moneyed white people to protect poor nonwhites, we only know how to do it the other way around
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Thanks to the folks in the thread who talked about using myturn.ca.gov, I checked it a few times yesterday and was able to get an appointment for my first round today. I'm in a qualifying industry, which is obviously helpful, but even with that I was expecting to have to wait for another month or two to get an appointment. My boss also got a next-day appointment (we're in the Bay Area and are going to the Moscone Center), so definitely smash that f5 until you're able to get in.
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Cool, as usual it looks like I could maybe get like 3 different appointments around San Francisco - but never any where I live in dipshit chud Placer county.
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Keyser_Soze posted:Cool, as usual it looks like I could maybe get like 3 different appointments around San Francisco - but never any where I live in dipshit chud Placer county. Rite Aid seems to have appointments pop up randomly throughout the day for the couple in Roseville. Although, my wife is eligible and I've been trying to book one for her and it's been frustrating. It'll say one's available, then when you click it, boom it's already booked. Or you can select it, but by the time you fill out the 200 questions, it's already gone. Not sure how get it done quicker. Try Remedy RX. I'm not eligible just yet and I'm on their wait list for end of day extras. You don't have to be a part of an eligible tier to join it. https://www.myremedyrx.com/coronavirus Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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I was able to get some slots in a rural CVS by using https://www.vaccinespotter.org/CA/. Find a green dot, go to that pharmacy's website, and search in the green dot's city, and book your time slot.
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Keyser_Soze posted:Cool, as usual it looks like I could maybe get like 3 different appointments around San Francisco - but never any where I live in dipshit chud Placer county. try sutter health. they might still only be doing olds and healthcare workers but it's worth a shot if you already have a chart with them.
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Question for California folks who have gotten their vaccines already: what sort of documentation were you asked to provide to prove your phase eligibility? I am currently providing in-home care for my elderly father while he recovers from surgery, for the next two months or so. When his nurse came for the first visit today, I made a joke about whether this made me Phase 1B for the next two months, and she actually agreed and encouraged me to see if any local providers would cover me. She couldn't help with the documentation question though, since her employer covered their staff and handled everything on the back end. OMGVBFLOL posted:try sutter health. they might still only be doing olds and healthcare workers but it's worth a shot if you already have a chart with them. Sutter has been extremely strict about its doses. They've outright told my mother (who's one of their patients) and I on separate occasions that they are forbidden from giving out unused doses, and that those doses are destroyed rather than violate the phase restrictions. That said, it almost certainly varies clinic by clinic, so it's worth finding out whether your local Sutter will tell the phases to stuff it and put you on a private list.
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