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Thread racists begin to form voltron
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 04:38 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 08:48 |
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The Question IRL posted:I don't think a cat lacking a precise monetary value is why people consider them "disposable. " I'd say that it's the free market which has already deemed cats to be free because the supply is greater than the demand. Animal rights groups have argued for years that yes, being forced to pay a small sum for the cat increases it's value to the owner and they are less likely to neglect it and more likely to do stuff like getting it spayed or neutered. And most importantly they are less likelt to get a cat as a snap decision. Free kittens is a bad thing for cats and it has needed active intervention by animal rights groups to get it this far. http://www.carolsferals.org/free-resources-on-feline-overpopulation/no-more-free-kittens/ And no none of this will work against active mistreatment and animal cruelty, but it'll help some is the point.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 05:26 |
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Breath Ray posted:The P in Vitamin P stands for patriot and as you say they were asking for examples of places that do it better, not for suggestions on how UK GICs could be better. To move this topic forward it would be good to hear from qhat where Canada ranks. Here in BC, I don't know it in detail since I personally don't actually know anyone who has yet been through transition but from websites here and anecdotes on reddit, it seems trivial to get started, maybe like a short stint with a therapist but not strictly required. http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/9khz9j/getting_hrt_in_bc_canada/. Hormones are apparently like $22 for a months supply and common gender affirming surgeries like vaginoplasty are covered under the provincial health plan. I don't know where I'd rank Canada relative to everyone else but this seems like a whole lot better than telling people sorry try again in 3 years.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 05:34 |
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They've arrested a met officer over the Sarah Everard disappearance. Yeesh.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 08:09 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I'm not sure. I know they have spent months investigating CRMs and just wanted/needed to commit to something. All the employees (3!) are part-time and IT isn't their forte. Helping charities with this sort of thing is kind of a hobby, pm me if you like
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 08:28 |
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Scikar posted:We didn't even get as far as discussing that. The previous argument began when discussing the ambiguously worded FOI response, whether it means this particular clinic had only seen 2 people in a year, or if it had only seen 2 people out of 495 new referrals. It's probably worth mentioning that the thread argument over this was really painful to read. Necrothatcher was right that this tweet is wrong, but didn't at all suggest that someone on twitter getting their facts muddled absolves GICs from being poo poo. Calling them a transphobe apologist for doing what this thread often does best, especially in contrast to twitter - providing an explanation and context about a specific topic - was a lovely thing to do.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 08:41 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-findsquote:Virtually all young women in the UK have been subjected to sexual harassment, according to a survey from UN Women UK, which warns that most women have lost faith that the abuse will be dealt with. Completely cool and normal country.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 08:54 |
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Necrothatcher posted:They've arrested a met officer over the Sarah Everard disappearance. Yeesh. "While we understand that the public believe that nobody is truly safe if the Metropolitan Police have begun raping and murdering white women with no criminal record, we must stress that the incident occurred when the officer in question was off duty."
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 08:56 |
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Niric posted:It's probably worth mentioning that the thread argument over this was really painful to read. Necrothatcher was right that this tweet is wrong, but didn't at all suggest that someone on twitter getting their facts muddled absolves GICs from being poo poo. Calling them a transphobe apologist for doing what this thread often does best, especially in contrast to twitter - providing an explanation and context about a specific topic - was a lovely thing to do. Here's the thing though they have over two thousand people some waiting over two thousand days, the idea that anyone could jump that waiting list is honestly a ridiculous reading of the situation no trans person in the UK is getting assessed in a year it's is a ridiculous concept that just doesn't happen, its taken me 13 months to even get to an initial screening appointment.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:00 |
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Niric posted:It's probably worth mentioning that the thread argument over this was really painful to read. Necrothatcher was right that this tweet is wrong, but didn't at all suggest that someone on twitter getting their facts muddled absolves GICs from being poo poo. Calling them a transphobe apologist for doing what this thread often does best, especially in contrast to twitter - providing an explanation and context about a specific topic - was a lovely thing to do. It was also a bit upsetting as I have a sibling on the waiting list at Laurels but oh well.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:18 |
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Algol Star posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/almost-all-young-women-in-the-uk-have-been-sexually-harassed-survey-finds Not cool but probably fairly normal in comparison to most other countries.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:20 |
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It's possible to point out a flaw in an argument while still supporting the argument's overall conclusions.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:22 |
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Necrothatcher posted:It was also a bit upsetting as I have a sibling on the waiting list at Laurels but oh well. A followup request has been sent, requesting clarification: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gic_initial_assessments_since_de#outgoing-1122432
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:24 |
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Regarding GICs I thought that even beyond any issues of how well the GIC itself is being run the whole thing was sized to the demand occurring when trans people were much less likely to come out of the closet, and now they're experiencing an order of magnitude more people lining up while providing adequate resources for trans health care isn't a priority in the current political climate
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:30 |
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Reveilled posted:A followup request has been sent, requesting clarification: I'm fully expecting the total number of patients seen to be criminally low - and gently caress them if they lean on COVID as justification for that.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:41 |
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Rumda posted:yep I did it this morning just in case I do manage to get a doctors note and apply for my new passport before a week on Sunday and technically not be doing it 'wrong' FWIW I changed the name and gender on my UK passport without needing anything from the dr - it was a while ago but as far as I can remember I just went deed poll (I printed one of those free online ones and got 2 people at work to witness it) -> bank stuff -> passport -> driving license. I even did the post office checking thing and they didn't ask any additional questions.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:41 |
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suck my woke dick posted:Regarding GICs I thought that even beyond any issues of how well the GIC itself is being run the whole thing was sized to the demand occurring when trans people were much less likely to come out of the closet, and now they're experiencing an order of magnitude more people lining up while providing adequate resources for trans health care isn't a priority in the current political climate
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 09:50 |
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spiderbot posted:FWIW I changed the name and gender on my UK passport without needing anything from the dr - it was a while ago but as far as I can remember I just went deed poll (I printed one of those free online ones and got 2 people at work to witness it) -> bank stuff -> passport -> driving license. I even did the post office checking thing and they didn't ask any additional questions. Na to shift the gender marker you need a grc, birth certificate, or doctors note
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:12 |
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Should we have got any census stuff by now? I got a flyer saying that the census was coming and that I should look out for it, but nothing since then.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:13 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Should we have got any census stuff by now? I got a flyer saying that the census was coming and that I should look out for it, but nothing since then. I just went online requested a new code and did it
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:14 |
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Necrothatcher posted:I'm fully expecting the total number of patients seen to be criminally low - and gently caress them if they lean on COVID as justification for that. TACD posted:Im assuming itll reveal an absolutely massive increase in people identifying as trans over the last census that will show how woefully inadequate the current system is. which I guess is why the transphobe lobby is kicking off that people are allowed to record their gender identity
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:15 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Should we have got any census stuff by now? I got a flyer saying that the census was coming and that I should look out for it, but nothing since then. We got our stuff in the post last week.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:16 |
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my census letter says I have to do it on the 21st. should that be by the 21st or are there allocated slots by area or something
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:19 |
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kecske posted:my census letter says I have to do it on the 21st. should that be by the 21st or are there allocated slots by area or something If should be filled out as if it was done on the 21st by the 21st
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:19 |
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Rumda posted:Na to shift the gender marker you need a grc, birth certificate, or doctors note I guess I've been using an invalid passport for the past 9 years then, because I didn't need any of those things when I changed it.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:20 |
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Rumda posted:If should be filled out as if it was done on the 21st by the 21st "please tell us what guests you were illegally entertaining so we can make a note of it, & I guess you can confess to whatever other crimes you're doing as well if you feel like it"
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:22 |
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Borrovan posted:tbf the literal reading of that FOI (~0.4% of patients seen within a year) is criminally low, I don't think anyone who isn't being transparently disingenuous would argue otherwise. Like the only argument to be made would be "it's not quite as criminally low as people said ", which is why it's important to get the facts straight imo I think the argument is that actually its too high, because everyone else is waiting years for an appointment so how did those 2 people jump the queue? Like in general its low and bad gut given the actual situation that number should be zero.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:30 |
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Didn't even get an original lovely troll, that's the real insult Oh by the way viewers in Scotland note our census isn't till next year. spiderbot posted:I guess I've been using an invalid passport for the past 9 years then, because I didn't need any of those things when I changed it. I suspect they might have been a bit more lax with their rules a few years ago, before trans stuff became such a Big Story? Good job on sneaking past the gender police, regardless Borrovan posted:"please tell us what guests you were illegally entertaining so we can make a note of it, & I guess you can confess to whatever other crimes you're doing as well if you feel like it" I don't think census data gets shared with law enforcement, they keep it pretty need-to-know. If they did it would be an utterly terrible idea from a statistical perspective, at least.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:34 |
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what is with british people and suddenly becoming thesaurus fuckers when you've made them mad. i swear to christ someone called me a bore the other day, like we'd stumbled in from some agonizing victorian period drama.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:37 |
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what a pugnacious rapscallion, a british person says growing increasingly red - dreadful bores and poppycocks
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:38 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I think the argument is that actually its too high, because everyone else is waiting years for an appointment so how did those 2 people jump the queue? Like in general its low and bad gut given the actual situation that number should be zero. Well the FOIA said 'assessments' without clarifying the outcome, so it could theoretically count patients who've decided to remove themselves from the waiting list and the 'assessment' was merely a phone call to confirm that they are no longer requesting clinic support. But that's just spitballing.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:40 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Should we have got any census stuff by now? I got a flyer saying that the census was coming and that I should look out for it, but nothing since then. I got it in the post yesterday, you'll probably get it this week.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:40 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Should we have got any census stuff by now? I got a flyer saying that the census was coming and that I should look out for it, but nothing since then. I was wondering last week when mine was going to show up and then it arrived yesterday, probably give it another couple of days?
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:41 |
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https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1369384489034670083?s=19 Surprised at this tbh
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:41 |
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Necrothatcher posted:Well the FOIA said 'assessments' without clarifying the outcome, so it could theoretically count patients who've decided to remove themselves from the waiting list and the 'assessment' was merely a phone call to confirm that they are no longer requesting clinic support. That was my thoughts on it, possibly even people who have died and thus 'discharged' from the system.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:43 |
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1369384489034670083?s=19 I don't think it's that surprising if you look at labour voters outside this thread to be honest.
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:44 |
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CoolCab posted:what is with british people and suddenly becoming thesaurus fuckers when you've made them mad. i swear to christ someone called me a bore the other day, like we'd stumbled in from some agonizing victorian period drama. This definitely is a thing that happens, but imo bore is a short enough word that yeah it sounds toff but not Rees-Mogg level . Not sufficiently sesquipedalian, me does't thunk
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:49 |
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Necrothatcher posted:Well the FOIA said 'assessments' without clarifying the outcome, so it could theoretically count patients who've decided to remove themselves from the waiting list and the 'assessment' was merely a phone call to confirm that they are no longer requesting clinic support. Na they had number of patients discharged as a separate count and assessment is the term they use for for the initial appointment you have to wait 6 years for when they judge you for being too masc/femme then you have to wait for a second appointment to get hormones if you get passed that. There's also an initial screening level of gatekeeping which would get you shoved into the discharged file if they don't think your trans enough. I have mine this afternoon...
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:49 |
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1369384489034670083?s=19
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# ? Mar 10, 2021 10:50 |
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sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1369384489034670083?s=19 Check out the breakdown by age, though.
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