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Rumda posted:There's also an initial screening level of gatekeeping which would get you shoved into the discharged file if they don't think your trans enough. I have mine this afternoon... lol I think you're going to ace that test  good luck anyway
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Flayer posted:What's surprising about it? Some Labour voters will feel a sense of ideological duty to say they support the current leader while others will be more issue based. I would only say it's surprising if the poll swung hugely towards favouring one over the other. Surprising that Corbyn's support is still as high as it is among Labour voters as a whole, I mean. In the aftermath of 2019 his "do you think he's doing a good job as leader" polling was in the toilet, even among Labour voters. So it's interesting that ~40% have decided that Starmer is worse even than that, or have rehabilitated Corbyn to some extent in their minds over the past year. Bodes fairly well for the left in the event of a leadership challenge, potentially.
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People have had a year to see how Starmer actually performs in the role and by any measure, he's been less than outstanding. There'll be plenty of 2019 Labour voters who viewed him as a fresh start initially but have since become much less enthusiastic towards him. Like people have said in this thread: there was a strong base of support for a Corbyn-style offering delivered by somebody more competent and media-palatable and if Starmer had stuck to that, I think he'd be polling a lot better. I think at this point, a lot of voters will be in a: "Well, at least Corbyn stood for something!" frame of mind.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I think the argument is that actually its too high, because everyone else is waiting years for an appointment so how did those 2 people jump the queue? Like in general its low and bad gut given the actual situation that number should be zero. (& the actual number should be 100% with a much smaller queue, obviously, waiting a year sounds like torture) Rumda posted:I have mine this afternoon...
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Failed Imagineer posted:This definitely is a thing that happens, but imo bore is a short enough word that yeah it sounds toff but not Rees-Mogg level i feel like if your threshold for "is a thing excessively fancy, old fashioned or stuck up" is "would jacob rees mogg do it" we are going to wind up with radically different lists.
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. Not sufficiently sesquipedalian, me does't thunk
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Should we have got any census stuff by now? I got a flyer saying that the census was coming and that I should look out for it, but nothing since then. I got my letter yesterday.
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jiggerypokery posted:Helping charities with this sort of thing is kind of a hobby, pm me if you like Thanks! PM sent.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I think the argument is that actually its too high, because everyone else is waiting years for an appointment so how did those 2 people jump the queue? Like in general its low and bad gut given the actual situation that number should be zero. It's Schrödinger's clinic, where they are so uncaring and incompetent they they barely get through anyone at all, but are also caring and competent enough to keep perfect records and make sure that those people who do get seen, are seen perfectly in order without exception. Like it didn't seem remotely unbelievable to me that they would have seen people out of order, and while it isn't right, it also isn't a particularly cast iron argument against the FOI request or Necrothatcher's attempts to clarify it, since everyone is in agreement that they don't seem to particularly give a poo poo.
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The thing is with England is that the visibly upper class aren't even the true upper class, it's like Dragon Ball Z
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:It's Schrödinger's clinic, where they are so uncaring and incompetent they they barely get through anyone at all, but are also caring and competent enough to keep perfect records and make sure that those people who do get seen, are seen perfectly in order without exception. I can't tell if you're arguing with me but yeah I'm not arguing with you.
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Oh, no, I'm not arguing with you. Just throwing in my two cents and saying that yes, I can absolutely believe that they would see people out of order, because what about their behaviour gives anyone the impression that they give a poo poo?
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It's hard to disagree with the numbers, but it's pretty remarkable to me that of all the places someone could choose to work as a health professional within the NHS, someone who doesn't give a poo poo about trans issues would choose to work in a GIC.
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Mar 10, 2021 11:33
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My mum was an NHS physio and whenever I complained to her about my sporting injuries she never gave a poo poo.
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Mar 10, 2021 11:40
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Keep going on this one is gets better and better. https://twitter.com/TrollZoo/status/1369403201275969542
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Borrovan posted:My assumption would be because of triage, people don't get seen in a linear order for most things. idk though. Pure speculation here, but the two who jumped the queue could have been intersex. Regardless, the FOI doesn't include enough data to interpret the figures. As a bare minimum I'd need to know how many people were on the list when the oldest case on it joined and how many people were taken off the list each year without being referred.
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Jedit posted:Pure speculation here, but the two who jumped the queue could have been intersex. You think that would get them seen faster? Honestly they'll be more likely to be given a run around because they don't fit the criteria
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Mar 10, 2021 11:55
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Is it not just most likely that they were rich and well connected?
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Jedit posted:"While we understand that the public believe that nobody is truly safe if the Metropolitan Police have begun raping and murdering white women with no criminal record, we must stress that the incident occurred when the officer in question was off duty." Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/10/sarah-everard-arrested-police-officer-not-on-duty-when-she-went-missing
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The thing with the NHS is it's pretty good if you are seriously ill with some somatic problem, but if you don't meet the invisible threshold and are just a bit ill, or have gender dysphoria, or a sporting injury, there is just nothing there at all. Adults with ADHD for instance wait years to get seen while they're trying to hold their lives together. Presumably the key issue is not enough money but under a centralised system it also needs good governance and People In Charge to decide disorder X is something that needs to be taken seriously.
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kingturnip posted:It's hard to disagree with the numbers, but it's pretty remarkable to me that of all the places someone could choose to work as a health professional within the NHS, someone who doesn't give a poo poo about trans issues would choose to work in a GIC.
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Jippa posted:Keep going on this one is gets better and better. That's an amusing thread (legit), but there's also basically nothing surprising about it
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Good luck today, Rumda!
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A comrade of mine from Netpol asked me to sign this petition about the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, you should all sign it too: https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/protect-the-freedom-to-protest (yes I know petitions are massive wastes of energy, but Netpol is a great organisation & can be trusted to actually keep pushing once it gets ignored)
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Communist Thoughts posted:i want a dog but my partner wants a cat so my plan is to get the worst cat they've got Just get both.
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My GP cousin is going bonkers - apparently Grant Schapps was on tv this morning saying that £37bn on 9.1m test and trace calls was good value for money. (So £4065 per call!) (Tell me if my decimal places have gone wonky!)
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That sounds like the sort of thing business guru Michael Green would think Grant Schapps is my local MP and once I had an argument with him in the street while I was eating a bacon sarnie, it was a good day
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From what I could tell from reading into it the vast majority of the T&T money is going on testing. Everyone is focused on Trace (which is poo poo) but the billions are being poured into providing millions of COVID tests with rapid results turnaround. Also they haven't actually spent £22bn or £37bn or anything like it, a lot of that is allocations for future spending. But I don't know why they don't make that clearer rather than pretending that the contact tracing part is really good value at £37bn actually.
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Grape posted:People know the Greek monarchy wasn't like, actually Greek right. Yes, every royal family in Europe is German except the Spanish and Swedes who are French. But the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg went to Greece starting in 1862 so really they aren't actually German anymore than your average Bostonian is Irish because their great granny migrated. The Greeks overthrew the previous German monarch (from the Bavarian Wittelsbach house who are the Jacobite claimants to the British crown now) and the National Assembly ended up picking the son of the Danish king. So actually they chose their German/Danish monarch for some reason. The ways of monarchists are inscrutable
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Libluini posted:Just get both. A terrible dog and a terrible cat sound like a fun animated series.
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Every British Monarch has been of German blood for over 300 years. The Queen Mother was the first person from a British bloodline for many many generations to ascend to the top step, so much so that Prince William will be the first Monarch since that previously mentioned 300 year period who's bloodline is more British than German. The Queen is half German by bloodline and Prince Phillip has not a drop of British blood so we can thank Diana for that. The only reason the British royal family have English sounding surnames is because they were changed during WW1 due to anti-German sentiment. Of course bloodlines and nationality are separate things but it does make you laugh when racists love the royal family.
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Jedit posted:"While we understand that the public believe that nobody is truly safe if the Metropolitan Police have begun raping and murdering white women with no criminal record, we must stress that the incident occurred when the officer in question was off duty." Is it relevant that he was off duty because if he were on duty the rape and murder would be legally allowable under the new bill? Or is that not yet passed?
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It's really bizarre how leftists who normally decry racism and nationalism will suddenly get all blood and soil to dunk on the monarchy
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NotJustANumber99 posted:My mum was an NHS physio and whenever I complained to her about my sporting injuries she never gave a poo poo. haha same
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kyojin posted:Is it relevant that he was off duty because if he were on duty the rape and murder would be legally allowable under the new bill? Or is that not yet passed? No, this is me being cynical about it being normal for the Met to murder black people while on duty.
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kyojin posted:Is it relevant that he was off duty because if he were on duty the rape and murder would be legally allowable under the new bill? Or is that not yet passed? I assume it's more of a 'if a cop is wearing the uniform they won't rape and kill you, pinky promise' type deal. 'what they do on their own time is their own business and doesn't reflect on the police force' etc. etc. Rumda posted:It's really bizarre how leftists who normally decry racism and nationalism will suddenly get all blood and soil to dunk on the monarchy Yeah, especially when you can junk dunk them in their own golden toilet.
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I assume it's more the US standard 'it's not rape or murder if a police officer does it, especially in that order'.
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Rumda posted:It's really bizarre how leftists who normally decry racism and nationalism will suddenly get all blood and soil to dunk on the monarchy Laughing at the hypocrisy of nativist right wingers getting teary eyed over the British royals, a group descended from hundreds of years of cross-European aristocratic intermarriage and incest, doesn't mean you implicitly accept that any of it matters. E: I've never understood how ethnonationalism was so easily adopted in the context of the European monarchies, when their very existence is proof that it's garbage. Kings would constantly be marrying off their daughters to political allies across the continent and marrying the daughters of said allies. Outside of a few exceptions medieval/early modern royalty married within class boundaries and never really gave a poo poo about ethnicity or preserving bloodlines (racial bloodlines that is, ofc dynastic bloodlines were very very important). How do you get to blood and soil nonsense - English are inherently different to the French at a fundamental level, for example - from hero worshipping a ruling family that's related to every other ruling family on the continent? ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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Flayer posted:Every British Monarch has been of German blood for over 300 years. The Queen Mother was the first person from a British bloodline for many many generations to ascend to the top step, so much so that Prince William will be the first Monarch since that previously mentioned 300 year period who's bloodline is more British than German. The Queen is half German by bloodline and Prince Phillip has not a drop of British blood so we can thank Diana for that. I get the point of this post, but British and German blood even as a conceptual thing feels super fash.
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Rumda posted:It's really bizarre how leftists who normally decry racism and nationalism will suddenly get all blood and soil to dunk on the monarchy It's not really "blood and soil" because it's not like anything would be better if the royal family were of an exclusively British gene pool. The important part is noting that the monarchy's connection to the "nation" is a fiction, that they had (and have) more interests in common with the rest of the European ruling class even when they were sending people to their deaths "for King and country".
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josh04 posted:British gene pool please define this
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