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Lubchansky kinda has a "right-wingers would become socialists if we just ran my preferred candidate" thing going so it doesn't surprise me he sees those as past battles
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Twelve by Pies posted:The problem with this cartoon is that the premise assumes that the right has given up and accepted black and gay rights, when they haven't. They haven't, but it's no longer as socially acceptable to openly discriminate against them so they're currently going after a more vulnerable minority. Make no mistake, they would love to continue to do unto gay people and black people what they're currently doing to trans people. D.N. Nation posted:Lubchansky kinda has a "right-wingers would become socialists if we just ran my preferred candidate" thing going so it doesn't surprise me he sees those as past battles Yeah, racism and homophobia are absolutely still huge problems with roots that run deep.
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Sure, but it's more the final panel where the guy says "You think we might be wrong again?" This implies he thinks "We were wrong on black and gay rights" when they absolutely don't think they were.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Sure, but it's more the final panel where the guy says "You think we might be wrong again?" This implies he thinks "We were wrong on black and gay rights" when they absolutely don't think they were. I don't think the comic is meant to be about self-identified bigots who are comfortable with their categorization.
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Twelve by Pies posted:The problem with this cartoon is that the premise assumes that the right has given up and accepted black and gay rights, when they haven't. I would have said the problem is the converse; the premise assumes that all the off-screen people who supported black rights also went on to support gay rights and so on, and that the only people opposing them were the same group every time. In reality TERFism is a perfect illustration of how FYGM is as much a thing for rights as for everything else. Terrible Opinions posted:Not right wing but plenty of people who at least in their younger days identified as liberal should have that reaction. Like Rowling has always probably have a bigotted world view but self identified as a not-bigot and presumably thought that because she made allowances for people that society explicitly said to in her earlier years to avoid being bigoted against. Always couching TERFy poo poo as "oh well I don't hate trans people I just have concerns". Same sort of doublethink used by the bigots who made the 1994 crime bill, despite supposed opposition to bigotry. Or take any given obviously fake story about North Korea or China that your average lib will take on face value because of orientalist poo poo they believe despite thinking of themselves as not hating people for being Chinese/Korean and thus being a not bigot. And it will continue into the future. Someday, probably even within our lifetimes, there will be a version of that comic with a fourth version of that panel. It might have a message that we today would find outrageous, or perhaps even one that we're too blinkered to even conceive of right now. The real test of all our characters will be which side of the picket lines we're on when that happens.
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I think people are reading waaaaaayyy too deeply into the Lubchansky cartoon. The point is that the same stupid fearmongering arguments have been used by bigots since forever and it's never been right because they don't hold any genuine value except hate. No need to look for "Nonsense this is an election year" where it doesn't exist. JerikTelorian fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Mar 10, 2021 |
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D.N. Nation posted:Lubchansky kinda has a "right-wingers would become socialists if we just ran my preferred candidate" thing going so it doesn't surprise me he sees those as past battles Do you have any examples of this?
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NRVNQSR posted:And it will continue into the future. Someday, probably even within our lifetimes, there will be a version of that comic with a fourth version of that panel. It might have a message that we today would find outrageous, or perhaps even one that we're too blinkered to even conceive of right now. The real test of all our characters will be which side of the picket lines we're on when that happens. When my great aunt was 85, I had a conversation with her about a television interview she had seen the previous day with Caitlyn Jenner, and she said that she had never known that there were trans people before she saw that interview, and that even though it was clear to her that Caitlyn Jenner was a selfish piece of poo poo, as she was watching she thought about how there must be kids out there who were also trans and had also maybe never heard about trans people before or not had much exposure to famous people who were trans, and so she was glad that Caitlyn Jenner was on tv. That's the standard I've decided that I'm going to try to meet when responding to human events or situations that I have never heard of before.
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D.N. Nation posted:Lubchansky kinda has a "right-wingers would become socialists if we just ran my preferred candidate" thing going so it doesn't surprise me he sees those as past battles 
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 quote:No Kidding Around: Pelosi, Schumer, and the Democrats are stealing from our children to bail out irresponsible Blue States.
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D.N. Nation posted:Lubchansky kinda has a "right-wingers would become socialists if we just ran my preferred candidate" thing going so it doesn't surprise me he sees those as past battles Small correction, Matt's pronouns are they/them for the record.
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Skeleton Mom posted:trying to unpack the weird racist logic that led to drawing oprah so white that she needs a name tag to be identifiable That's less Oprah than it is Aerosmith's Joey Kramer circa the 70's.
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I don't watch much TV so I guess I missed the press conference Pelosi and Schumer held where they told everyone to watch the Meghan and Harry interview.
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Cloud Potato posted:Mail: Don't you DARE drag Hercule Poirot into this.
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Technowolf posted:Don't you DARE drag Hercule Poirot into this.
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Technowolf posted:Don't you DARE drag Hercule Poirot into this. Belgian fancy lad in the 20s-50s . C'mon you know he's (a) suspect
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Speaking of Agatha Christie, anyone know if there was much outrage when that one book with the ten little something something got it's name changed to something that'll probably also have to be changed one of these days? How about Ten Little MAGA-Men?
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Lodin posted:Speaking of Agatha Christie, anyone know if there was much outrage when that one book with the ten little something something got it's name changed to something that'll probably also have to be changed one of these days? How about Ten Little MAGA-Men? It actually was already changed to "And Then There Were None".
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It actually was already changed to "And Then There Were None". UK editions continued to use the original title with the hard R until the '80s.
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I might as well note that there's a thread in TGRS originally devoted to the question of the use of the term "indian" as a pejorative and the consensus (including official positions by several native american governments) is "are you joking?" It's actually the foreword of one of the Hillerman books.
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Vib Rib posted:If only we could invent some kind of way to make electricity stick around. Get outta here with your science fiction bullshit.
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Discendo Vox posted:I might as well note that there's a thread in TGRS originally devoted to the question of the use of the term "indian" as a pejorative and the consensus (including official positions by several native american governments) is "are you joking?" It's actually the foreword of one of the Hillerman books.
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Trapezium Dave posted:
I love the random little details in Rowe's work. The coat of arms with the kangaroo and emu planting their heads in the sand always gets a laugh out of me.
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"American Indian" is the mostly preferred nomenclature these days, isn't it?
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Discendo Vox posted:I might as well note that there's a thread in TGRS originally devoted to the question of the use of the term "indian" as a pejorative and the consensus (including official positions by several native american governments) is "are you joking?" It's actually the foreword of one of the Hillerman books. The song “Ten Little Indians” is arguably offensive on its and was used in minstrel shows, which is definitely offensive.
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Literal Tiger posted:I love the random little details in Rowe's work. Personally, I love the Sharks chair.
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Moon Slayer posted:"American Indian" is the mostly preferred nomenclature these days, isn't it? e: wrong
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Moon Slayer posted:"American Indian" is the mostly preferred nomenclature these days, isn't it? Honestly, in Canada, "Indian" is considered pretty drat rude, unless you yourself are first nations, in which case you can call yourself whatever you like.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Knight: If only we'd had over thirty years' explicit warning
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Good news (for lovely content in this thread), Disney has just announced that they are making several movies like Dumbo and Peter Pan unavailable on Disney+ kids accounts. This obviously means that the movies are gone forever and canceled. https://nordic.ign.com/news/44343/disney-plus-removes-peter-pan-dumbo-from-kids-profiles-due-to-negative-depictions
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Lodin posted:Good news (for lovely content in this thread), Disney has just announced that they are making several movies like Dumbo and Peter Pan unavailable on Disney+ kids accounts. This obviously means that the movies are gone forever and canceled.
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RoboRodent posted:Honestly, in Canada, "Indian" is considered pretty drat rude, unless you yourself are first nations, in which case you can call yourself whatever you like. Yeah I know that in Canada it's First Nation, which is honestly cooler and actually accurate but I'm not going to tell people what they should want to be called.
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Indigenous people, works as well.
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Moon Slayer posted:Yeah I know that in Canada it's First Nation, which is honestly cooler and actually accurate but I'm not going to tell people what they should want to be called. Oh yeah, absolutely. I also dislike "Indian" because it's inexact. If you say we're going out for Indian food, I'm going to expect curry and naan, not bannock and whipped soapberries. Not that the latter is unwelcome, I just want to know ahead of time.
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So all the right wingers whining about a Dr. Seuss book and PotatoHead want what exactly? The companies who own those properties did it themselves there was no protest or law or anything. Do they want laws that will for those companies to sell products against their wills?
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I skipped the last two years or so of these threads for my mental health, and for some reason thought checking out the Kellies nominees would be a good idea. I stopped halfway through Least Concealed Bigotry. I literally feel sick. How do y’all still do this?
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