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I love that the vaccine trials in kids is being pitched to stop the spread due to spring break and irresponsible socializing and not being in school and athletics.
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Pingui posted:Some speculation about what the problem with the AZ vaccine is: It's also another setback since AZ/University of Oxford vaccine is supposedly cheaper and faster to make than mRNA options. If the clotting turns out to be a widespread adverse effect it could lead to the EUA getting yanked.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:11 |
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etalian posted:It's also another setback since AZ/University of Oxford vaccine is supposedly cheaper and faster to make than mRNA options. Yeah and had the advantage insofar as poorer countries goes, that it was fast enough to market to get used in the West. Later "poor" vaccines likely won't and subsequently won't get the same level of post-rollout safety testing. It sucks, but the issue seems likely to be real, if not particular common.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:20 |
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Another variant that appears to evade detection has been found in France:https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Covid-France-finds-new-variant-in-northern-Brittany posted:(..)
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:22 |
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Undetectable covid lmao
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:28 |
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Yeah, if AZ doesn’t work out, the only other solution may be to accept Russian vaccines until more mRNA vaccines come online. The problem the Russians have is simply an issue of numbers. That said come June there will probably be a significant surplus in the US.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:29 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:oh word it looks like they found some bad science Two documents were removed before the election even happened. quote:Guidance removed: By the time of my review in late January and February 2021, two documents developed or finalized outside of the agency had already been removed (“The Importance of Reopening of America’s Schools this Fall” posted July 23, 2020 – removed October 29, 2020) or replaced (Overview of Testing for SARS-COV-2 posted August 24, 2020, replaced September 18, 2020). A link to a third document (“Opening up America Again” which was released on April 16, 2020 through a link posted on CDC’s web) was removed February 7, 2021 during the process of my review https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/communication/Guidance-Review.pdf This page that recommended people not get tested if exposed. One link, I believe to this Trumpy PDF, was removed in February. I cannot find a copy of “The Importance of Reopening of America’s Schools this Fall”. Literally all I can find under that title are references to the review that removed it and this page on some Christian academy’s website that quotes fragments of the lost work (in their August 27, 2020 update): quote:Greetings from Canyonville Academy! Wow! Much transparency, CDC! e: O.K., now that I have key phrases, I can find the drat thing in the Internet Archive. It is very bad, as one might have surmised, and this motherfucker was on the CDC website, not a standalone document, with thirty‐eight dogshit citations. Platystemon has issued a correction as of 13:37 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:gently caress, 22% of respondents are already vaccinated? that seems insane to me That's basically the national average for first shots. The states that haven't opened up more are just saving millions of shots for old people that are never going to show up.
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https://twitter.com/lhfang/status/1371593036166090755?s=19 NUMBER GO UP!!!
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:41 |
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what I'm seeing here is that Plague Inc is true to life and the disease is now picking Attributes that will help it spread better. Undetectable seems pretty OP if it's paired with mild symptoms and then multiple organ failure.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:41 |
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lmfao
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:42 |
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, if AZ doesn’t work out, the only other solution may be to accept Russian vaccines until more mRNA vaccines come online. The problem the Russians have is simply an issue of numbers. Up till now the Russians don't seem to pump out the numbers needed. I guess you could switch all the AZ factories to Sputnik, but who knows how long that takes.
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Jon Irenicus posted:what I'm seeing here is that Plague Inc is true to life and the disease is now picking Attributes that will help it spread better. Undetectable seems pretty OP if it's paired with mild symptoms and then multiple organ failure. Isn't Plague Inc structured so that once a vaccine is made and distributed it's over?
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:48 |
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I assume it's not undetectable, it just doesn't have the sequence the test looks for. From what I understand of PCR, you basically figure out an identifying sequence, make a bit of... something, RNA or whatever, that matches it, put it on a stick, swirl it around in the sample and see if anything sticks to it (heavy artistic liberties taken here). So whatever they are using to identify COVID isn't there anymore in these variants, but they can just figure out what they do need to look for. It's not great of course, they'll need to make new tests and I dunno if they can find something to look for that identifies the old and new or if they need multiple tests now, but it's not completely undetectable in the sense that you can't make something that does detect it
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:49 |
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ayyyy lmao
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:52 |
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We are going to find out the vaccines have planned obsolescence.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:55 |
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Forseti posted:I assume it's not undetectable, it just doesn't have the sequence the test looks for. This is essentially correct, they did identify it as COVID after all. But it does make it much harder to contain, especially if there are other variants that are also detection evading (there is a Finnish variant as well, but whether it is the same mutation or not isn't clear). Running a single PCR test is feasible, running 20 different ones each time is not.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 13:58 |
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Pingui posted:Isn't Plague Inc structured so that once a vaccine is made and distributed it's over? you get a couple of days after it's discovered iirc, lol
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:13 |
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Mr Hootington posted:We are going to find out the vaccines have planned obsolescence.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:15 |
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Why do I have a sudden urge to buy an xbox?
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:16 |
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SC residents (and neighbors) Publix is flush with vaccines this morning. https://www.publix.com/covid-vaccine/south-carolina
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:17 |
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https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1371813287835410444 ???
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Mr Hootington posted:We are going to find out the vaccines have planned obsolescence. Given the mutation rate of the spike protein, the planned obsolescence is baked in.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:24 |
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I loving love science.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:25 |
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Forseti posted:I assume it's not undetectable, it just doesn't have the sequence the test looks for. It's a quantitative PCR, which means it measures amplification of a certain sequence after a certain number of rounds of amplification. Any mutations that lower the binding efficiency of the primers are going to lower the amount of amplification and make a false negative more likely. It sounds like it's time for updated primer sequences. Most of them are based on the sequences published by the Chinese in December 2019.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:29 |
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is the astrazeneca vaccine noticeably causing these clots or is this cause they did a brexit and we want to sell people different vaccines?
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:32 |
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McCracAttack posted:SC residents (and neighbors) Publix is flush with vaccines this morning. Hah we're treating vaccines like video cards, iphones, and playstations. Just watch the internet for availability (no not a centralized site, you have to follow social media rumors) get there quick and stand in line overnight! gently caress this country.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:34 |
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https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1371638485686358018 the great barrington declaration is now taking a bold stance against disease eradication
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:34 |
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Last official message on their site:https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/emas-safety-committee-continues-investigation-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-thromboembolic-events posted:EMA’s safety committee continues investigation of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and thromboembolic events – further update Share It seems to me that they are on the path to stating it isn't the vaccine doing it, but they shouldn't be giving a final conclusion until Thursday.
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Gorson posted:Hah we're treating vaccines like video cards, iphones, and playstations. Just watch the internet for availability (no not a centralized site, you have to follow social media rumors) get there quick and stand in line overnight! gently caress this country. We've been making lots of "trade a PS5 for a vaccine" jokes lately.
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McCracAttack posted:We've been making lots of "trade a PS5 for a vaccine" jokes lately. Are they really jokes tho at this point
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:36 |
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Get equipped with: Slut Juice AZ, obviously. Tegnell says we should be cautious of it? I'm taking it.
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:36 |
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The other day on the news they were proclaiming that Ohio should hit the 50/10,000 to lift all COVID restrictions in 7 or 8 weeks. 7 weeks from now is Cinco de Mayo
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I went on a cannabis tolerance break and my dreams have returned full rush but they're all based on the old world which ruins my immersion and fuels my anxiety. I notice no one is wearing masks which just takes me out of them and I realize I'm dreaming in the dream. But it's not fun because my survival instinct kicks in. Anyways. gently caress everything on this hellworld
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Pingui posted:Last official message on their site: quote:the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine in preventing COVID-19, with its associated risk of hospitalisation and death, outweigh the risks of side effects. I don't know how to say this in a way that doesn't sound pissy and dismissive, but given how loving bad COVID-19 is, it seems like there's an entire spectrum of poo poo that a vaccine could result in and still be considered "outweighing the risks of side effects" and they're not even wrong to say this, it just sucks that we're resolved to trying to do this with a vaccine because nobody else wants to do what China and Aus and NZ did
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# ? Mar 16, 2021 14:38 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Brazil is still hosed and rapidly getting fuckeder by the day, maybe appointing someone with actual medical experience to head up the health ministry might help??? haha, so glad the terrifying brazilian variants arent spreading wildly here
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Iron Crowned posted:The other day on the news they were proclaiming that Ohio should hit the 50/10,000 to lift all COVID restrictions in 7 or 8 weeks. Wonder how many people are going to die for that silly "holiday" Hallmark made up to sell more product
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hospital accreditation is a miserable process and i wont be officially started until may 1st, but im just in the office shadowing and reading and helping the manager fill out my million loving forms i still get my first shot on thursday tho and you can bet your rear end i'm going to be "sick" on friday
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salient posted:https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1371638485686358018
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