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Tuxedo Gin posted:As a linguist that has done phonemic distinction studies I am not sure that the average person/brain would mistake "kilojoules" for "kill jews". A more plausible confusion is “kill all jews”.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:As a linguist that has done phonemic distinction studies I am not sure that the average person/brain would mistake "kilojoules" for "kill jews". This is an interesting topic. There's a british tv magician type guy named Derren Brown who deals mostly in NLP. One of his big two-hour shows on TV culminated with throwing out 5 newspapers from the morning, and intentionally tricking people into picking a certain word from a certain article on a certain page by, among other things, changing a sing word in sentences he says throughout the show. The listener just assumes he meant to say what he meant to say in the context of the sentence, but the changed words become subconscious instructions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idtbswz_mXw
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i am harry posted:This is an interesting topic. There's a british tv magician type guy named Derren Brown who deals mostly in NLP. One of his big two-hour shows on TV culminated with throwing out 5 newspapers from the morning, and intentionally tricking people into picking a certain word from a certain article on a certain page by, among other things, changing a sing word in sentences he says throughout the show. The listener just assumes he meant to say what he meant to say in the context of the sentence, but the changed words become subconscious instructions. Interesting. Similarly I became interested in the power of NLP when I saw this documentary about people using it to literally kill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFjRnDiP0U
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Tuxedo Gin posted:As a linguist that has done phonemic distinction studies I am not sure that the average person/brain would mistake "kilojoules" for "kill jews". The speaker in this case does have a somewhat thick accent. Her most common pronunciation of "joules" is "juice" but sometime she slurs her letters and ends up with "jews"
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Mar 14, 2021 18:55
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i am harry posted:This is an interesting topic. There's a british tv magician type guy named Derren Brown who deals mostly in NLP. One of his big two-hour shows on TV culminated with throwing out 5 newspapers from the morning, and intentionally tricking people into picking a certain word from a certain article on a certain page by, among other things, changing a sing word in sentences he says throughout the show. The listener just assumes he meant to say what he meant to say in the context of the sentence, but the changed words become subconscious instructions. Isn't Darren Brown's stuff almost entirely traditional magic and sleight of hand disguised as NLP? I don't know about this trick in particular, but there's been tons of tricks of his where he's wrapped up a normal trick in a bunch of NLP claims.
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PT6A posted:Expectation plays a huge role in how humans understand speech, in that something like "kill Jews" and "kilojoules" are very close to one other in terms of how they are spoken, and the reason our brain understands one or the other is based hugely on context. Obviously they do sound different, but if someone said "Hitler wanted to kilojoules" your brain would bridge the gap, because that's a nonsensical thing to say as written, and we know that both consciously and subconsciously. Yes, I know how a pun works, thank you.
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enki42 posted:Isn't Darren Brown's stuff almost entirely traditional magic and sleight of hand disguised as NLP? I don't know about this trick in particular, but there's been tons of tricks of his where he's wrapped up a normal trick in a bunch of NLP claims. Yeah even if you take his explanation at face value and grant him magical NLP powers, there are a dozen different ways someone could have not heard his suggestions, or misinterpreted his suggestions, or not realized where they were supposed to apply his suggestions, and he would have spent the last half hour of his show doing a trick that went completely tits up. Having never seen him though, it's a really neat presentation worth watching though imo, it starts about 50 minutes into that video!
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Derren is great, but it's not NLP, like one of the posters said before it's all traditional magic techniques. For example the girl guessing the padlock number at the start of his final routine (53mins-ish in) is a perfect example of an instant stooge and dual realities. Derren is mouthing the numbers to her - it feels perfectly normal and not cheating to her because he's established that they're playing a game where she's seeing what it would be like to be psychic (plus from her perspective they haven't got to the trick yet), but to everybody else in the audience it looks like an impossible miracle. The rest of the trick is a book test. blunt fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Mar 15, 2021 |
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Randomly came across this on youtube, think it fits the thread https://youtu.be/vzV81Lh2vV4
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The speaker in this case does have a somewhat thick accent. Her most common pronunciation of "joules" is "juice" but sometime she slurs her letters and ends up with "jews" 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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i am harry posted:I hope these people are killed, not mocked. drat badass guy who believes in magic tricks
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i am harry posted:I hope these people are killed, not mocked. I find this NFT scam a very interesting example of capitalist business practices reaching and failing to overcome the inherent communistic nature of digital media, it pleases my vain hopes that Veblen was right E: for those who roll their eyes at the mention of communism, in other words I like that this attempt to impose artificial scarcity on a post-scarcity resource is failing. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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adoration for none posted:I find this NFT scam a very interesting example of capitalist business practices reaching and failing to overcome the inherent communistic nature of digital media, it pleases my vain hopes that Veblen was right To be fair the average energy cost of 340 kWh per transaction is not exactly post-scarcity. But these things are definitely selling for more than the $50 or so that represents. There's also a cost in the externality of the CO2 emitted.
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Lead out in cuffs posted:To be fair the average energy cost of 340 kWh per transaction is not exactly post-scarcity. But these things are definitely selling for more than the $50 or so that represents. Oh no, NTF is not post-scarcity at all, it's the attempt to impose scarcity. Kill it with fire. E: and as you say, it's a pointless waste of resources to boot. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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Mar 16, 2021 02:58
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blunt posted:Derren is mouthing the numbers to her - it feels perfectly normal and not cheating to her because he's established that they're playing a game where she's seeing what it would be like to be psychic
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i am harry posted:I hope these people are killed, not mocked. Mods?
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https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1371467173059776514 https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1371773624026333185
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Doggles posted:https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1371467173059776514 Oh yeah I'm sure it was *definitely* a mistake. Oopsy! e: oh i thought this was uspol. this is probably the thread to discuss crypto! How are u fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 16, 2021 |
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How are u posted:Oh yeah I'm sure it was *definitely* a mistake. Oopsy! The GBS crypto thread is surprisingly not terrible. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3838405
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I don't think NVIDIA is trying to nerf mining in order to sell more expensive hardware to miners. GPU's fly off the shelves regardless, and in an extreme demand situation the real value is captured by middlemen and scalpers. I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong but BTC prices are destroying the PC gaming sphere right now and that is a high margin space for hardware manufacturers
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They're destroying pricing if you don't give up and just buy a PC off the shelf. If you're determined to do a custom build it's currently insane.
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arent most coinz mined from ASICs from pop up mining towns nex to hydro or coal plants.
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PhazonLink posted:arent most coinz mined from ASICs from pop up mining towns nex to hydro or coal plants. Anyone that can afford mass asic farms is targeting Bitcoin specifically, and increasingly Etherium as it starts to reach the difficulty where it's basically required. Cards are still plenty capable for all the cheap garbage coins that may or may not become the next Etheriuim.
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Less Fat Luke posted:This is some of the dumbest poo poo ever: I do calling bitcoin poo poo as p much a second job, and this month has been busy on media appearances - and almost every one has been about "holy loving poo poo this bullshit makes so much CO2". so awareness is out there, and also this is really good news for bitcoin when you think about it,
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Lead out in cuffs posted:To be fair the average energy cost of 340 kWh per transaction is not exactly post-scarcity. But these things are definitely selling for more than the $50 or so that represents. The post-scarcity refers to digital images. You can have as many copies of calm.jpg as you want without making it less available
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divabot posted:I do calling bitcoin poo poo as p much a second job, and this month has been busy on media appearances - and almost every one has been about "holy loving poo poo this bullshit makes so much CO2". so awareness is out there, and also this is really good news for bitcoin when you think about it,
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i can see this stuff being used as proof of authorship (and even then, there are simpler signing schemes) but the value in digital items is often in the ease of duplication and transfer. i can't understand the perceived value of owning the NFT. everything about NFTs confuses and enrages me.
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Delta-Wye posted:i can see this stuff being used as proof of authorship (and even then, there are simpler signing schemes) but the value in digital items is often in the ease of duplication and transfer. i can't understand the perceived value of owning the NFT. everything about NFTs confuses and enrages me. Look, if I can't prove I spent lots of money on nonsense, what is even the point of spending money on nonsense? That, and the faint hope that I will eventually be able to convince someone to spend even more money on nonsense than I've done.
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Delta-Wye posted:i can see this stuff being used as proof of authorship (and even then, there are simpler signing schemes) but the value in digital items is often in the ease of duplication and transfer. i can't understand the perceived value of owning the NFT. everything about NFTs confuses and enrages me. It's like DMCA but somehow worse, really impressive feat ngl America Inc. fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Delta-Wye posted:i can see this stuff being used as proof of authorship (and even then, there are simpler signing schemes) but the value in digital items is often in the ease of duplication and transfer. i can't understand the perceived value of owning the NFT. everything about NFTs confuses and enrages me. It is worse in every way compared to the normal cryptographic signing methods everybody already uses when the goal is 'prove authorship' instead of 'find a bigger sucker'
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It actually seems like NFT has made the problem of piracy even worse because randos can make NFT tokens of your work without your permission and then try to profit off that and perhaps claim some imaginary non-legal control over your work. The nightmare scenario would be that digital artists have to make NFT tokens to avoid such fraud and NFT becomes a literal rent-seeking parasite that nobody actually cares about but has to use anyway. E: in other words it would be a self-justifying technology; its mere existence would require people to use it. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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Non-fungible tokens are misnomers because they are 100% entirely fungible. Their value is that of any other media file, which is to say $0.
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The craziest thing for me to find out what that the token doesn't even contain like the binary data of the JPG in question or anything, literally just a link to the file's URL. Which means if whoever hosts http://www.suckershq.com/verygoodart.jpg ever takes the file down or doesn't bother to renew the domain registration eventually, the token is then just pointing to literally nothing. Imagine if when da Vinci's original studio got demolished to build apartments or whatever, that caused the Mona Lisa to revert to an empty frame.
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Hargrimm posted:The craziest thing for me to find out what that the token doesn't even contain like the binary data of the JPG in question or anything, literally just a link to the file's URL. Which means if whoever hosts http://www.suckershq.com/verygoodart.jpg ever takes the file down or doesn't bother to renew the domain registration eventually, the token is then just pointing to literally nothing. It's basically like buying real art, having it stored in one of those port warehouses that's technically not part of the country and therefore taxes don't apply, and then at some point that warehouse just burning down, and also causing the planet to burn down too.
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PopZeus posted:feeling a little crazy - was there a video that was very close-up of Elizabeth Holmes where she is creepily talking right into camera? google is failing me, or maybe i'm thinking of another tech person making a similar video? I'm very late, but I made this as soon as I could. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJUA_12FNdQ
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Hargrimm posted:The craziest thing for me to find out what that the token doesn't even contain like the binary data of the JPG in question or anything, literally just a link to the file's URL. Which means if whoever hosts http://www.suckershq.com/verygoodart.jpg ever takes the file down or doesn't bother to renew the domain registration eventually, the token is then just pointing to literally nothing. Gentlemen, I have for you today at this auction an authentic goatse.cx. and, if that were not exciting enough, it is hello.jpg *Audience excitedly murmurs* Shall we start the bidding at one hundred butts? Volmarias fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Mar 18, 2021 |
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adoration for none posted:It actually seems like NFT has made the problem of piracy even worse because randos can make NFT tokens of your work without your permission and then try to profit off that and perhaps claim some imaginary non-legal control over your work. lol this just sold for like $50k  quote:"®" is the first NFT to contain the intellectual property of every Fortune 100 company. [10000x6666 px]
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It'll be crazy when the Johnny Fiveaces NFT sells higher than the real thing.
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have you seen my baby posted:lol this just sold for like $50k the contradictions, they're heightening
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