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I'm looking to get into this game and build up an army over the next few months and I have some questions/need advice. For my first army I’m considering one of the following: Cities of Sigmar Kharadon Overlords Lumineth Realm Lords Disciples of Tzeentch Slaves To Darkness Gloomspite Gitz So if I want to make a 1000 point army for any of these what is it probably going to cost me? I play Underworlds and I know a bunch of the warbands can be used in AoS so that might help me. (I have the Slaves warband, the Tzeentch warband, the Overlords warband, and both Gitz warbands) Also I have a question about the general’s handbook. I know the 2020 one is the most up to date but they still sell the 2019 one in epub format so do they still expect people to use it?
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Mar 23, 2021 16:18
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Lucinice posted:I'm looking to get into this game and build up an army over the next few months and I have some questions/need advice. I only know about Gitz, but there's sort of 4 separate armies to choose from there. They don't synergize super well cross sub-faction, so you'll want to focus either on grots, squigs, troggoths, or spiders. You can mix and match, but they are more effective with focus due to the way the buffs generally only apply to one group. Spiders are online order only and not particularly good right now, but the other 3 can do OK. Sigmar has an OK web tool for planning armies. It's not great for permanently tracking your lists, but for what you're doing right now of "I want to figure out what 1k points looks like and costs", it does the job: https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/ The phone app is better for permanent list tracking, with the downside that you can't bring your lists to the PC easily, so you're only editing them on your phone. Battlescribe can do AoS in a pinch, but it kind of sucks for AoS. Also note that the terrain is free from a points perspective, but not from a dollar perspective. You'll want it, but it's $60 MSRP. A good starter grot list would be: 1x terrain $60 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-gitz-bad-moon-loonshrine-2019 1x Loonboss $30 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz-Loonboss-2019 1x Skragrott the Loonking $36 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz-Skragrott-The-Loonking-2019 1x endless spells $36 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Endless-spells-gloomspite-gitz-2019 1x sneaky snufflers $40 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz-Sneaky-Snufflers-2019 1x fanatics $40 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz:-Fanatics-2019 3x grots (can be built a few ways, stabbas with stabbas+moon shields is a flexible option for all 3) $114 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz-Grots-2019 $320 That gets you two wizards, and the endless spells. Gitz have some great spells, and the endless spells are really cool models for them. Sneaky Snufflers provide a really strong buff to your grots. If you just want the "Mash up the goblins, I don't care about synergy", then you could grab: 1x terrain $60 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-gitz-bad-moon-loonshrine-2019 2x Start Collecting $190 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Start-Collecting-Gloomspite-Gitz-2020 1x Mangler Squigs $80 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz-Mangler-Squigs-2019 1x squig hoppers $50 https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Gloomspite-Gitz-Squig-Hoppers-2019 $380 That is slightly over 1,000 points, but the squig hoppers can be pretty good and can be built two ways, a box gets you 10 and those build in squad sizes of 5. This gets you a bit of everything, you're not going to have great initial synergy, but you can expand out based on what you like more here, Squigs or Troggoths. You'll probably want to look up the White Dwarf rules for how to use the terrain with non-grots, it won't be super useful with the default war scroll.
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Mar 23, 2021 18:23
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My 1000 point Lumineth list is the Battle Box that released last summer which goes for around $180 USD Plus 1 box of Wardens https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Lumineth-Realm-lords-Vanari-Auralan-Wardens-2020 Plus 1 box of Sentinels https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Lumineth-Realm-lords-Vanari-Auralan-Sentinels-2020 Plus 1 box of Dawnriders https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Lumineth-Realm-lords-Vanari-Dawnriders-2020 Plus 1 Scinari Cathaller for your general https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/Lumineth-Realm-lords-Scinari-Cathallar-2020 So that's something like $390 USD? For exactly 1000 points. Throw in Teclis for $170 or whatever he is and that gets you most of the way to 2000 points  Not the cheapest army, but that gets you 2 x 10 Wardens, 1 x 10 Sentinels, 2 x 5 Dawnriders, a Light of Eltharion, and a Cathallar mage.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:27
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Lucinice posted:Slaves To Darkness You can have a solid basic 1k STD army (lord on big lizard, 5x knighs w/lances, 2x sorc, 10x warriors, 20x marauders) with the new start collecting box, a box of marauders and two chaos sorcerers. If you have the slaves and tzeentch warbands that should cover your sorcerers so you would only need the start collecting and a box of marauders.
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Mar 23, 2021 19:41
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Lucinice posted:Kharadon Overlords
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Mar 23, 2021 20:32
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Two Headed Calf posted:If you have the slaves and tzeentch warbands that should cover your sorcerers so you would only need the start collecting and a box of marauders. Can slaves just take stuff from other Chaos factions?
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Mar 23, 2021 21:30
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Lucinice posted:Can slaves just take stuff from other Chaos factions? They can ally in but its very rare thats of value. It does work in reverse though, e.g. a chaos warrior with the mark of slaanesh can join a hedonites of slaanesh army.
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Mar 24, 2021 00:04
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grabbed the skeleton horde that was on an okay discount at my lgs because I absolutely see a newer, more expenive box coming out and looking at the mortarch model the new soulblight's almost certainly going to have Neferata and Mannfred, right?
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Mar 24, 2021 00:50
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Der Waffle Mous posted:grabbed the skeleton horde that was on an okay discount at my lgs because I absolutely see a newer, more expenive box coming out and looking at the mortarch model the new soulblight's almost certainly going to have Neferata and Mannfred, right? They already have the Soulblight keyword. No question.
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Mar 24, 2021 01:20
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RagnarokAngel posted:They already have the Soulblight keyword. No question. Plus they have not been updated for 2e yet.
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Mar 24, 2021 01:55
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Does anyone think that GW is going to move away from the "Start Collecting" series with AOS like they're doing with 40k? The combat patrol boxes they are introducing there give you an army in a box to play with straight away, so could something there possibly come along for AOS? Asking more so for the ease of getting people into playing. Actual AOS talk, I'm having a hard time of coming up with a color scheme for my Lumineth. Don't want to do any standard colors, but drawing a blank on anything else.
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Mar 24, 2021 17:30
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Eldritch BiLast posted:Does anyone think that GW is going to move away from the "Start Collecting" series with AOS like they're doing with 40k? The combat patrol boxes they are introducing there give you an army in a box to play with straight away, so could something there possibly come along for AOS? Asking more so for the ease of getting people into playing. Saw some video of a guy who claimed that there would be a Indomitus style AoS set this summer but afaik he was just some random dude and probably pulled it out of his rear end. I like Lumineth in reds   
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Mar 24, 2021 17:37
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Eldritch BiLast posted:Does anyone think that GW is going to move away from the "Start Collecting" series with AOS like they're doing with 40k? The combat patrol boxes they are introducing there give you an army in a box to play with straight away, so could something there possibly come along for AOS? Asking more so for the ease of getting people into playing. I hope not i just bought 80 clanrats
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Mar 24, 2021 17:41
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Winklebottom posted:I like Lumineth in reds Strong Blood Elf energy of that, and kinda how I want to paint them if I ever got a unit box.
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Mar 24, 2021 18:00
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Cooked Auto posted:Strong Blood Elf energy of that, and kinda how I want to paint them if I ever got a unit box. I think the last one was a guy on reddit doing a Blood Elf themed army
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Mar 24, 2021 18:02
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Winklebottom posted:I think the last one was a guy on reddit doing a Blood Elf themed army Yeah I can see that, kinda overlooked the eye colour.
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Mar 24, 2021 18:31
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I feel like because both the lumineth models, and the GW color scheme for them, is so clean and stylistically crisp, doing a real grim dark Blanche style paint scheme and kitbashing would be interesting. I’ve no idea how to go about it though. Like completely blood soaked and gory, severed heads and everything, or ghostly or dirty and dark mechanicus inspired or something. I’d probably look through 28 mag for inspiration and do a lot of test models. It might be a little weird since elves already have a dark counterpart though.
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Mar 24, 2021 18:36
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Eldritch BiLast posted:Does anyone think that GW is going to move away from the "Start Collecting" series with AOS like they're doing with 40k? The combat patrol boxes they are introducing there give you an army in a box to play with straight away, so could something there possibly come along for AOS? Asking more so for the ease of getting people into playing. I have seen some dark purple Lumineth that look very nice, still, I went with the blue ones 
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Mar 24, 2021 18:43
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I’ve no idea still what I want to do with my KO. I was thinking some Vallejo blue green because it’s real handsome, but I don’t know what metallic to pair with it or what to do for the trim (idk if that’s the right word).
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Mar 24, 2021 19:07
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Captain Magic posted:I’ve no idea still what I want to do with my KO. I was thinking some Vallejo blue green because it’s real handsome, but I don’t know what metallic to pair with it or what to do for the trim (idk if that’s the right word). Gold and red plays pretty well with teal/turquoise, like the lizardmen default scheme. I tried a similar scheme on the single space marine I've painted. 
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Mar 24, 2021 19:27
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Winklebottom posted:Gold and red plays pretty well with teal/turquoise, like the lizardmen default scheme. Yo that pops, really good.
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Mar 25, 2021 07:37
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Winklebottom posted:Gold and red plays pretty well with teal/turquoise, like the lizardmen default scheme. Yeah that looks great! What are the paints you used for the red and gold?
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Mar 25, 2021 09:55
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TK_Nyarlathotep posted:Yo that pops, really good. Captain Magic posted:Yeah that looks great! What are the paints you used for the red and gold? Thanks! The gold is Retributor Armour base -> AP Flesh Tone wash -> Auric Armour Gold layer -> Liberator Gold highlight (could probably skip the Auric and just layer the Retributor again tbh). The Red is Khorne Red base -> Mephiston Red highlight.
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Mar 25, 2021 10:20
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Eldritch BiLast posted:Does anyone think that GW is going to move away from the "Start Collecting" series with AOS like they're doing with 40k? The combat patrol boxes they are introducing there give you an army in a box to play with straight away, so could something there possibly come along for AOS? Asking more so for the ease of getting people into playing. https://www.goonhammer.com/how-to-paint-everything-other-eldar-craftworlds/ Ctrl F for "Horras" to see some real inspiration. I'd love to see those colors on Lumineth.
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Mar 25, 2021 14:37
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/26/how-to-survive-a-godly-smackdown-between-teclis-and-nagash/ Whoever came up with the ability names had fun. 
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Mar 26, 2021 16:25
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/26/how-to-survive-a-godly-smackdown-between-teclis-and-nagash/ My Love Is Like A Ripe, Ripe Fart sounds really good.
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Mar 26, 2021 16:35
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I would concede an extra command point to the person that plays appropriate tunes that fit those names during a match.
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Mar 26, 2021 17:30
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Two if they can do it with their armpit.
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Mar 26, 2021 17:39
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Just eat a whole lotta beans before your match
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Mar 26, 2021 17:43
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We do not need to reward Nurgle players for smelling worse.
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Mar 27, 2021 02:20
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Nurgle player doing an Ork impression for the stabbing song
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/26/how-to-survive-a-godly-smackdown-between-teclis-and-nagash/ Thank god this isn't from early AOS, you would have had to actually sing the song to get it's effects...
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Mar 27, 2021 15:04
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Zark the Damned posted:Thank god this isn't from early AOS, you would have had to actually sing the song to get it's effects... Or actually fart, which in a game store is a bit of an apocalyptic scenario.
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Mar 27, 2021 15:37
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Spoilers are out for Broken Realms: Teclis and they are something else... https://spruesandbrews.com/2021/03/27/broken-realms-teclis-and-new-lumineth-realm-lords-battletome-2021-review/
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Mar 27, 2021 15:42
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I don't know which it is, but apparently some dude has an ability that negates the other faction's terrain? That's pretty wild.
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Mar 27, 2021 15:50
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No. 1 Juicy Boi posted:I don't know which it is, but apparently some dude has an ability that negates the other faction's terrain? That's pretty wild. 
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Mar 27, 2021 16:04
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Talas posted:Spoilers are out for Broken Realms: Teclis and they are something else... Well we know that Mannfred lost on purpose, so this paints an interesting picture for Soulblight.
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Mar 27, 2021 16:07
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And I thought effectively killing off a CoS subfaction in Morathi was a big setting change.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:And I thought effectively killing off a CoS subfaction in Morathi was a big setting change. Oh yeah this is even bigger.
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