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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1374364597361111044?s=20

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gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
With voice and face like I might burst into tears any moment: b-b-but we did everything the focus groups said to! I don't understand!

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004


flawed poll, they forgot to measure the key attribute of electability

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Breakfast All Day posted:

flawed poll, they forgot to measure the key attribute of electability

Tidy suit and good with powerpoint.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Breakfast All Day posted:

flawed poll, they forgot to measure the key attribute of electability

let's not forget forensicness

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER


it took four years of constant terrible press for corbyn's labour to fall as far in the polls as starmer has and now starmer himself is getting wrecked despite having an objectively much easier time of it than corbyn (does anyone have these numbers for him, by the way? i'm curious if starmer's as personally unpopular as corbyn was towards the end)

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
starmer sure seemed to expect that the positive anti-corbyn press would continue into his leadership and if absolutely nothing else, that is extremely funny.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
he thought the press would go wild for him purging the left except they don't give a poo poo outside of cheering it on on twitter while its pissed everyone else off

i can't see him lasting until the next general election. he already had to "relaunch" his leadership within a year because he's done gently caress all

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


V. Illych L. posted:

it took four years of constant terrible press for corbyn's labour to fall as far in the polls as starmer has and now starmer himself is getting wrecked despite having an objectively much easier time of it than corbyn (does anyone have these numbers for him, by the way? i'm curious if starmer's as personally unpopular as corbyn was towards the end)

Turns out being a moist chunk of ham who dedicates himself to saying nothing with the fury of a zealot is less appealing to voters than having a principle other than "I like the police and security states. It's unfair to hold this against Smithers because who could possibly have foreseen this? Other than me I mean.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

Erm, while I agree with the poll that I am neither competent, likeable, trustworthy, decisive, nor strong, and I support its publication, I think that the poll could do more,

Rollie Fingers
Jul 28, 2002

That poll looks bad but his approval rating on solving anti-semitism is in the high 90s

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


I wanna know what's going on with the 25% who still think he's decisive.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Jose posted:

he thought the press would go wild for him purging the left except they don't give a poo poo outside of cheering it on on twitter while its pissed everyone else off

i can't see him lasting until the next general election. he already had to "relaunch" his leadership within a year because he's done gently caress all

He's got some women in the shadow cabinet he can throw under the bus first

He's going to have to be careful handling Nandy and Reeves though because if he promotes or demotes either they'll probably try and usurp him

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Lmao he's hosed Bristol so badly they might not have enough council candidates

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/...mpaign=sharebar

Rollie Fingers
Jul 28, 2002

Blairism, Lib Dem/Cameron's austerity and Brexit have had a radicalising effect on people in this country
Centrism is loving dead in the UK for a while

Starmer is a plant anyway. MI5 could be worried that he's becoming offensively unpopular rather than the inoffensive wrecker op that they had planned

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Tulip posted:

I wanna know what's going on with the 25% who still think he's decisive.

There is a plausible school of thought that he has serious, consistent principles that he's acting according to.

It's just that all of them are terrible.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
I don't think he has principles per se, apart from the fact he wishes he could rule Britain with an authoritarian streak that would make the CCP blush

I do think him and the rest of the Labour right think they are doing the right thing to get elected which is why it's going to be funny if they replace him with Reeves and have exactly the same response but with a woman

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
reeves isn't winning a leadership election unless she's the only candidate

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

starmer is a member of the trilateral commission, one of the talking shops that make up the american imperial consolidation of western elites. he's a committed atlanticist and technocrat who's deeply skeptical of democracy and ordinary people in general

the starmerite dream state would rule by an intricate and inter-accountable bureaucracy with a population kept appeased through consumer research

it's awfully unpleasant that he ever found his way into an ostensibly socialist party

gorgmatic
Apr 25, 2006

May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't
ALLAH IS ALL MERCIFUL

Jose posted:

he thought the press would go wild for him purging the left except they don't give a poo poo outside of cheering it on on twitter while its pissed everyone else off

i can't see him lasting until the next general election. he already had to "relaunch" his leadership within a year because he's done gently caress all

The Keef Relaunches!

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=
The year is 2035. In addition to meaningful vote 16, and lockdown 25, we've currently celebrating Kier's labour's 11th new relaunch! Their slogan "new leadership, this time for real" heralds a return to competent politics by adults.

The Lobotomy Kid
Aug 27, 2011

and act like a nut.
The relaunch fails when Keith's attempt to ramp his car over a group of cyclists goes terribly wrong.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

The Lobotomy Kid posted:

The relaunch fails when Keith's attempt to ramp his car over a group of cyclists goes terribly wrong.

it’s the UK so I assume it would “go wrong” by failing to kill the cyclists

gonadic io
Feb 16, 2011

>>=

Zoran posted:

it’s the UK so I assume it would “go wrong” by failing to kill the cyclists

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/27/keir-starmer-contacted-by-police-after-collision-with-cyclist-in-london

At times I like to imagine what it'd be like if Corbyn had accidentally run over a cyclist and how we'd still be hearing about it 6 months later. That cyclist would be a national celebrity.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

gonadic io posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/27/keir-starmer-contacted-by-police-after-collision-with-cyclist-in-london

At times I like to imagine what it'd be like if Corbyn had accidentally run over a cyclist and how we'd still be hearing about it 6 months later. That cyclist would be a national celebrity.
Realistically, him getting run over and damaging the car would’ve resulted in that.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

V. Illych L. posted:

haunted by the ghost of blair
ghoul brittania

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm08v69vG10

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 00:20 on Mar 24, 2021

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/SurskitNation/status/1374372172488056833?s=20

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


there is no way that is Constitutional

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


what's a constitution lol

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Party Boat posted:

what's a constitution lol

idk, it hasn't been written

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






euphronius posted:

there is no way that is Constitutional

lol

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

did it become law ?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

euphronius posted:

there is no way that is Constitutional

if the mace wills it

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






We must consult the Ravens in the Tower. Be a good boy and fetch a yeoman will you? There's a good lad.

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin

euphronius posted:

did it become law ?

It's gone to committee where it is supposed to be examined carefully before a report is done and it can be put up for a final vote in the commons. Then the house of lords gets to have a go at it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police,_Crime,_Sentencing_and_Courts_Bill#Progress_through_Parliament

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Parliament_(UK)#Stages_of_a_bill

Hillary 2024 has issued a correction as of 23:24 on Mar 23, 2021

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

65% of brits thought that Jeremy Corbyn was "weak," 59% said "untrustworthy," and 66% said "dislikeable."

Keith's numbers are still twice as good as Corbyn's. Keith isn't going anywhere.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

I'm staggered that even now, after everything, 1/4 of brits polled find Keith to be trustworthy and decisive.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

bedpan posted:

65% of brits thought that Jeremy Corbyn was "weak," 59% said "untrustworthy," and 66% said "dislikeable."

Keith's numbers are still twice as good as Corbyn's. Keith isn't going anywhere.

depends what the rest of the people are saying - corbyn was a very polarising figure, and there's a lot of people who don't really seem to have a read on sir ham yet

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010

bedpan posted:

65% of brits thought that Jeremy Corbyn was "weak," 59% said "untrustworthy," and 66% said "dislikeable."

Keith's numbers are still twice as good as Corbyn's. Keith isn't going anywhere.

I still don't understand the dislikeable thing for Corbyn - be seemed like a nice dude, but I've heard people say there was just some inherent unlikeable quality about him, even if they didn't believe all the shite that was constantly put it about him.

I guess it's just demonstrates the effectiveness of relentlessly negative coverage.

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bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

fatelvis posted:

I still don't understand the dislikeable thing for Corbyn - be seemed like a nice dude, but I've heard people say there was just some inherent unlikeable quality about him, even if they didn't believe all the shite that was constantly put it about him.

I guess it's just demonstrates the effectiveness of relentlessly negative coverage.

Yes. The "where there is smoke, there is fire" or "everyone wouldn't be saying it unless some of it was true."

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