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fatelvis posted:I guess it's just demonstrates the effectiveness of relentlessly negative coverage. It's this
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fatelvis posted:I still don't understand the dislikeable thing for Corbyn - be seemed like a nice dude, but I've heard people say there was just some inherent unlikeable quality about him, even if they didn't believe all the shite that was constantly put it about him. corbyn was always a bit of a marmite politician, but he was very well respected early on in his tenure from people who didn't take umbrage at his sympathy for irish republicanism or his open pacifism - to be fair, not an insignificant amount of people. that got eroded as the entire establishment realised that he was actually serious about socialism, and very soon you had just a total and all-encompassing barrage of poo poo flung at him for everything until antisemitism (basically just made up out of whole cloth) and brexit (more reasonable, but jesus christ) gave an excuse to everyone who wanted to not be Obviously Wrong to find something bad about the man. i have never seen anything like it - the entire fact-checking brigade went insane and started spreading what amounts to conspiracy theories, even the mirror tried to push him out. a genuine eye-opener, and it's a testament to the man's character that he came out of it with anything close to dignity
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It helps that he has a very public, and principled, history. Consistently been on the right side of issues. Until, suddenly, now of course.
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Corbyns irish republican sympathies, made him very popular in ireland and made all the right kinds of people in britain mad. Of all the people I'd spoken to about corbyn, when he was the head of labour the only people who didn't like him were english.
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3 superior Keiths.
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corbyn didn't sympathise with irish nationalists in northern ireland because they're nationalists he sympathised with them because they'd been hosed over and brutalised for decades. if history had taken a different turn and it'd been unionists getting that treatment as a minority in a 32 county republic of ireland he'd have sympathised with them
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The lesson the left really needs to learn about Starmer is that we need to be better at capturing people into our program, way too many people fell for Starmer's schtick instead of siding with RLB
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Mar 24, 2021 01:35
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Insufficiently patriotic was one of the main things I liked about Corbyn but that made a lot of people froth with rage
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marktheando posted:Insufficiently patriotic was one of the main things I liked about Corbyn but that made a lot of people froth with rage remember when people got mad that he wouldn’t tell the sub captains to engage in a futile act of nuclear vengeance lol
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remember when he was pushed repeatedly to support extrajudicial assassinations under the extremely euphemistic "shoot to kill" policy, then the state broadcaster put out a misleading cut of that interview which implied he didn't want police to intervene in a terrorist attack? which they themselves investigated and found themselves in breach of impartiality rules, then they rebroadcast the inaccurate interview next election anyway? lol
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Raskolnikov38 posted:remember when people got mad that he wouldn’t tell the sub captains to engage in a futile act of nuclear vengeance lol Lol starmer refused to say he would multiple times on the radio then released a statement that he would push the button for a first strike
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Jose posted:Lol starmer refused to say he would multiple times on the radio then released a statement that he would push the button for a first strike Had to check with the focus groups quickly
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MikeCrotch posted:The lesson the left really needs to learn about Starmer is that we need to be better at capturing people into our program, way too many people fell for Starmer's schtick instead of siding with RLB I would disagree, I would say that the problem was the left was perhaps naïve about the intentions and drive of new Labour. Not only would they drag down Corbyn with as hard as they could, but they would retake leadership regardless of the cost. New Labour may be weak willed when it comes to actually fighting for the working class, but they will fight with every ounce of their strength to re-take control. Brexit was a fact, but lets be honest, media was driving a lot of more moderate/centrist voters to the Lib Dems as well. If it anything, I would say if it was and it may be nearly impossible for Labour to win period just based on the mechanics in play.
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I don't pay attention to my own country's politics but i still have to lol that the lib dem lady stated immediately she would use nuclear weapons, before finishing a distant third in elections
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Mar 24, 2021 02:46
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Didn't he abdicate? Or is 'prince' one of those titles that sticks around even after you're no longer on the job?
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Mar 24, 2021 02:57
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there are like fifteen accurate ways to answer that question and they are all dumb as gently caress
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Mar 24, 2021 02:58
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they could call him Harry Windsor Saxe-Coburg but no one would understand
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Reality Protester posted:they could call him Harry Windsor Saxe-Coburg but no one would understand the hohenzollerns would
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doesnt his military uniform say Windsor
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The Harry formerly known as Prince
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Knitting Beetles posted:The Harry formerly known as Prince lol
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Mar 24, 2021 07:55
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You're a prince, 'arry!
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https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/mar/24/festival-of-brexit-first-events-for-divisive-120m-project-announcedquote:‘Festival of Brexit': first events for divisive £120m project announced quote:A celebration of the British weather and the largest grow-your-own food project of modern times will be among the events being staged for a nationwide festival of creativity aimed at bringing the UK together in 2022. Very apt: a celebration of drizzle, and learning how to grow your own veg to make up for the food shortages caused by brexit.
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It has a working title of Festival UK 2022, but that will be replaced with a better name before the year is out. F UK
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Brexit gave the UK 350 million pounds a week, as I recall. That's small potatoes.
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Lmao https://twitter.com/__mike91/status/1374614891869376512?s=19
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what the gently caress
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https://twitter.com/RHADuncanB/status/1374379406223761412 lol
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Festival Celebrate UK
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haha christ , best stock up food now and hope the red cross airlifts food in time for xmas
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that is such a mind-boggling choice you can use this to raise the issue of corruption and crack down on individuals while excoriating the government! there's a bunch of stuff you can use this for! support a tory takeover of liverpool of all places is so obviously stupid it makes me seriously countenance whether starmer actually *is* out to wreck the party
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V. Illych L. posted:that is such a mind-boggling choice Robert jenrick was involved in a huge corruption scandal he survived lol https://twitter.com/mlothianmclean/status/1374671089247399940?s=19
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there's so much open impropriety going on with the johnson government that you seriously do not have to tale your lumps on this kind of thing the present home secretary got sacked for basically working on her own on behalf of a foreign government! boris johnson ordered an assault on a journalist! eat out to help out! jesus
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it dont matter posted:https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/mar/24/festival-of-brexit-first-events-for-divisive-120m-project-announced 
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V. Illych L. posted:there's so much open impropriety going on with the johnson government that you seriously do not have to tale your lumps on this kind of thing Starmer has promised a load of people in the PLP and big donors that they will be able to do the same poo poo while in power
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The more openly corrupt the British government is the more desperate kier gets to prop it up and save it
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So, I was busy doing anything else, but was the ‘beacon of light’ as underwhelming as you’d guess?
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