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Shaggar posted:the 20% is things like objc or c/c++ where you cant just cant use java/c# or they are too impractical (embedded) and then its fine rust might actually start to take some of the c++ market, it feels like we've hit a moment where some large c++ projects are starting to basically give up on ever properly preventing memory safety bugs with c++. rust is the least hosed alternative. EDIT: i would like to sincerely apologize for accidentally sniping with an opinion on programming languages
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DuckConference posted:EDIT: i would like to sincerely apologize for accidentally sniping with an opinion on programming languages
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DuckConference posted:rust might actually start to take some of the c++ market, it feels like we've hit a moment where some large c++ projects are starting to basically give up on ever properly preventing memory safety bugs with c++. rust is the least hosed alternative. just RAII more, geez
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FMguru posted:you disgust me We take this issue very seriously. We broke your trust, and we're going to do better moving forwards.
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Mar 24, 2021 17:59
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Shaggar posted:that company sounds lovely and you dont owe them any sort of apology for them not disclosing requirements. Thats their gently caress up. If the company is not lovely and you're just dealing with lovely HR, you may want to CC the hiring manager as well to make sure they realize HR hosed them, not you. good shaggar take right here
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DuckConference posted:We take this issue very seriously. We broke your trust, and we're going to do better moving forwards. Well, of course. With some care and attention, you can snipe with an opinion on programming languages on every new page. 
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Glorgnole posted:good shaggar take right here interspersed with the Core Stupid Shaggar Take so eh
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by sc-level clearance do you mean ts/sci? because the lifestyle polygraphs you need to do to obtain that are extremely invasive and time-consuming, i would tell them to gently caress off
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DELETE CASCADE posted:by sc-level clearance do you mean ts/sci? because the lifestyle polygraphs you need to do to obtain that are extremely invasive and time-consuming, i would tell them to gently caress off it's some british equivalent that sounds similarly invasive, and the op not being originally from there makes it even more difficult
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the uk has 3 main levels of clearance, DBS is your bog standard haven't been caught by the police doing anything bad, then once you have potential access to government contracts or work there are several layers of SC clearance depending on what kind of work you're doing and if it involves access to Secret or Top Secret documents https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/united-kingdom-security-vetting-clearance-levels/national-security-vetting-clearance-levels OP's company sounds like they do mid level SC work which is checking through their CV to make sure all of it is true (they will go through your academic record, last registered addresses and old workplace's HR to make sure you worked there) but it's only at Developed Vetting and above where they interview your friends and ask about your kinks to make sure you're not in a position to be blackmailed for govt documents
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it's mid-level but from what I'd read online the checks are fairly in-depth, though there's a bit conflicting information on that online it may also include personal interviews about kinks and politics and whatnot it's BPSS which is slightly lower that's the address, police record, counter-terrorist and reference check SC gets you unrestricted access to secret material and supervised access to top-secret; the DV is basically the spy clearance there's also DBS and CTC which are your basic not a criminal/can be a cop lower-level checks honestly it's the politics and whatnot that made me a bit nervous about it, I'm not a hardcore socialist or anything but, well, you know also just in general not keen on the whole thing, here's the form: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/732844/20180515-Form_NSV001_v1.1.pdf not to mention you're not even supposed to be able to apply for SC if you've lived outside the UK for more than 31 days in the last 5 years, which I have, unless you apply for a special exemption (which naturally brings extra scrutiny) either way it's most definitely more than the last registered address, even for BPSS they want the last 5 years of addresses and overseas travel LMBO, just have a look through the form (which does not include additional questions they have) I'd be okay with BPSS but I feel like SC might be a bit too much, either way just don't need that worry in my life especially as a typical application takes 3 months, and that's for UK nationals Private Speech fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 24, 2021 |
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i got a ts clearance like 15 years ago and then only worked at the place i got it through for a year after that thanks to the opm hack every tiny detail about my life up until 15 years ago is now on some chinese intelligence agency’s servers well thats my security clearance story i hope you liked it
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:i got a ts clearance like 15 years ago and then only worked at the place i got it through for a year after that same
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sup opm hack buddies
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my clearance was sponsored by a client and I did literally two jobs for that client before I left
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:thanks to the opm hack every tiny detail about my life up until 15 years ago is now on some chinese intelligence agency’s servers It'd probably be there anyway even if you didn't have clearance.
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ultrafilter posted:It'd probably be there anyway even if you didn't have clearance. fair enough
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Shaggar posted:yeah thats one you definitely want to avoid python is absolutely the correct choice if you don't have any expertise in software development or interest in learning it and you care only about implementation speed at the expense of maintainability and correctness that is to say, it's absolute aces for academic programming
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I have an external recruiter telling me that a 'defence' project/client mentioned by an internal recruiter is actually just a cyber security project, is that a thing people are calling cyber security now?
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raminasi posted:python is absolutely the correct choice if you don't have any expertise in software development or interest in learning it and you care only about implementation speed at the expense of maintainability and correctness this is true
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clear eyes full farts posted:I have an external recruiter telling me that a 'defence' project/client mentioned by an internal recruiter is actually just a cyber security project, is that a thing people are calling cyber security now? governments love putting cyber in front of everything
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i luv 2 cyber, asl?
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:i luv 2 cyber, asl?
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Asymmetric POSTer posted:i luv 2 cyber, asl? 
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cerious posted:Yeah I'm the go-to on our team for looking at these test programs. My understanding is that this group uses a lot of test methods written by another internal organization to develop the test program for a particular product. So it sounds like I got the job (I talked to my old mentor who referred me to the group and he said he heard I did great on the interview and the hiring manager told him I got it). Still waiting for an official offer since the hiring manager is on vacation but I'm going to try to and negotiate a grade bump, especially because I believe I'm due for one at my current role anyways. Does anyone have experience with internal negotiations? Is it more or less the same advice that applies to external ones? Also turns out I didn't need any practice with coding at all... the pseudocode question they gave me was basically to just explain what an example function did. It was just an if-else statement with a for loop in it that would exponentiate the first integer arg by the second, and return an integer result. I tried pointing out the function wouldn't work correctly for negative exponents but they seemed happy enough with just the first part 
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i had an internship sponsor me for ts clearance but the whole process was such a hassle that i never got around to submitting all of the things needed that's my exciting security clearance story
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quote:I received your application for the Software Engineer II position we are currently hiring for. I wanted to get an idea of where you are current located. This opportunity is fully remote with that said there are certain states we cannot consider candidates from.
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Steve Jorbs posted:Cool...that sounds sketch as hell. Is there any potential reason for this outside of, "We don't want to hire a candidate from a state that has any worker protections greater than non-existent?" all about laws around non-competes and such i'd guess yeah.
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Steve Jorbs posted:Cool...that sounds sketch as hell. Is there any potential reason for this outside of, "We don't want to hire a candidate from a state that has any worker protections greater than non-existent?" yeah ask for the list of states they "can't" consider. most likely it's states with actual worker protections that recruiter is dumb as hell for letting that slip too. just say 'what state are you from so we can get timezones aligned' and don't spring the bad news until you know they're from a no-go state. or hell just ghost the candidate at that point god these people can't even be sociopaths correctly PIZZA.BAT fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Mar 26, 2021 |
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Steve Jorbs posted:Cool...that sounds sketch as hell. Is there any potential reason for this outside of, "We don't want to hire a candidate from a state that has any worker protections greater than non-existent?" PIZZA.BAT posted:yeah ask for the list of states they "can't" consider. most likely it's states with actual worker protections it COULD be that they’re not equipped payroll/HR wise to be complaint with every states small variations in labor/tax/disability crap, or even more likely health insurance wise, if they’re a smallish operation with 99% of their employees in a fixed number of locations but it’s most likely because they’re really lovely
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PIZZA.BAT posted:yeah ask for the list of states they "can't" consider. most likely it's states with actual worker protections I'm in the pacific timezone, anytime after 5 works for me
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I was trying to be clever in that you could answer that question without revealing your state but if thats your answer odds are you're in one of the worker protection states (or what passes for it in america), so I'm ghosted 
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Steve Jorbs posted:Cool...that sounds sketch as hell. Is there any potential reason for this outside of, "We don't want to hire a candidate from a state that has any worker protections greater than non-existent?" I'm at a company that does this. The reasoning is that we aren't set up to pay state taxes to any state that we or our corporate overlords don't already have a business dealings in. And HR has decided it's a non-started to go to corporate accounting and ask them to spin up on a new state for a division on the far side of the country. We even have remote people in Canada. They officially work for the parent company, and are considered outsiders in our exchange/jira setup.
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The best one in that vein was the guy who made some JS framework (can't quite recall which one, am not a web dev) getting asked about 4+ experience with it when he started it 3 years ago. That's like an extra on the evergreen of "thing didn't even exist". Though TBF that's not very often the case in embedded.
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"Your profile looks like a great fit for an exciting Principal DevOps Engineer position with a natural gas energy provider with a mission to make the world a more sustainable place."
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Private Speech posted:The best one in that vein was the guy who made some JS framework (can't quite recall which one, am not a web dev) getting asked about 4+ experience with it when he started it 3 years ago. recruiter turnover is comparable to mcdonalds turnover, required experience is comparable also in many cases if you can fix that you can fix recruiting. you're not gonna fix that tho
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JehovahsWetness posted:"Your profile looks like a great fit for an exciting Principal DevOps Engineer position with a natural gas energy provider with a mission to make the world a more sustainable place." that's potentially a solid pitch to someone who wants to think they care about principled employment but isn't actually willing to make sacrifices to do it
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Private Speech posted:The best one in that vein was the guy who made some JS framework (can't quite recall which one, am not a web dev) getting asked about 4+ experience with it when he started it 3 years ago. I once got a "the client said you don't have enough startup experience" from a recruiter and when I pointed out I've worked for 6 startups he started hemming and hawing because I basically think he was trying to say "you're too old" without actually saying it
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