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Serf posted:all the things i've seen so far say that the vaccines are effective against the different strains. is that no longer the case? They should be, the problem is we're opening up before everyone is vaccinated
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Serf posted:all the things i've seen so far say that the vaccines are effective against the different strains. is that no longer the case? The mrna vaccines we're relying on have basically no data for e484k variants, tho they're very effective against b1117
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epidemiologists even in Biden's admin are telling you that high community spread and partial vaccination are the perfect grounds to make escape variants, but sure, go meet your vaccinated family and friends who I'm sure are telling you the truth that they are not doing anything else that is riskier behavior, like seeing other friends or eating out or going into the grocery store more as mask mandates are revoked or working retail or seeing unvaxxed grandchildren that are forced back into school or tinder or
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Mar 25, 2021 14:44
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oh we are just doing this all again, huh? this time I think I'll pick up more TP.
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Mar 25, 2021 14:48
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fosborb posted:epidemiologists even in Biden's admin are telling you that high community spread and partial vaccination are the perfect grounds to make escape variants, but sure, go meet your vaccinated family and friends who I'm sure are telling you the truth that they are not doing anything else that is riskier behavior, like seeing other friends or eating out or going into the grocery store more as mask mandates are revoked or working retail or seeing unvaxxed grandchildren that are forced back into school or tinder or Especially bc much escapier variants show up repeatedly when covid is challenged with vaccinee serum in the lab
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Mar 25, 2021 14:49
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gonna have to start compiling all this info so that i can make my pitch to my job that i should keep working from home (which will be denied)
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Mar 25, 2021 14:50
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Iron Crowned posted:Rules doesn't it? One week for 40+ here before everyone counts. We're still doing 75+. Before AZ was put on hold and J&J failed to deliver I was set to receive my first shot around July or August. lmao
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Mar 25, 2021 14:53
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fosborb posted:the reason israel is at 0.55 despite only half vaxxed and swimming in b117 is because they are still far more locked down than anyone in the US is even today of course not, the president has made July 4th the day that things will officially be back to normal. OPEN BIDEN!
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cdc says meet one additional household indoors without a mask as long as everyone but the children are fully vaccinated, explicitly not because it's the safest thing to do but because they're trying to give grandma at least some reward for getting vaccinated to encourage dismal adoption rates loving everyone, apparently: CAN'T WAIT TO. EAT lovely HAM WITH MEEMAW AND ALL MY AUNTS AND UNCLES AND COUSINS ON EASTER SUNDAY CDC SAYS ITS OKAY AND IM JUST SO TIRED OF BEING A GOOD BOY
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Mar 25, 2021 14:56
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I, for one, welcome our newly imminent mass death.
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Mar 25, 2021 14:59
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Lol, add me to goon spouses.txt, my wife said she was gonna take some vacation from work this afternoon to go to Home Depot and get a bunch of gardening stuff and got real mad when I said we should just go after dinner when they arent busy instead, Google maps tells you exactly what hours places are usually full of people but I guess that's not a valid data source. We're in between our first and second shots this is the stupidest poo poo we are only three weeks away from being two weeks post our second shots.
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Mar 25, 2021 15:00
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Thoguh posted:Lol, add me to goon spouses.txt, my wife said she was gonna take some vacation from work this afternoon to go to Home Depot and get a bunch of gardening stuff and got real mad when I said we should just go after dinner when they arent busy instead, Google maps tells you exactly what hours places are usually full of people but I guess that's not a valid data source. We're in between our first and second shots this is the stupidest poo poo we are only three weeks away from being two weeks post our second shots. she could at least go to a local ace hardware where there are no contractors and everyone working there is 75+ and much more likely to be vaccinated themselves
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Mar 25, 2021 15:02
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Jon Irenicus posted:oh we are just doing this all again, huh? this time I think I'll pick up more TP. Fortunately this time around we've all learned from our mistakes, so the children can attend school.
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Mar 25, 2021 15:07
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fosborb posted:she could at least go to a local ace hardware where there are no contractors and everyone working there is 75+ and much more likely to be vaccinated themselves It's more just an ongoing thing from all year where she wants to go do something at peak times because that's when she's used to shopping and it's most convenient and I want to plan in advance and either avoid the trip by ordering online or go early morning or right before close. And mostly we don't go but she's convinced herself that stores are empty on weekday afternoons between lunch and the end of the office workday and that's the time to go even though google maps data completely disagrees with that.
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Mar 25, 2021 15:09
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fosborb posted:loving everyone, apparently: CAN'T WAIT TO. EAT lovely HAM WITH MEEMAW AND ALL MY AUNTS AND UNCLES AND COUSINS ON EASTER SUNDAY CDC SAYS ITS OKAY AND IM JUST SO TIRED OF BEING A GOOD BOY My Easter plans are that my roommate is insisting that I watch The Passion of the Christ with her  I guess that's fair since I made her watch Mandy a while back.
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Mar 25, 2021 15:09
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I've seen enough movies to know that a new variant is coming with a 20% cfr
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Mar 25, 2021 15:10
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Thoguh posted:It's more just an ongoing thing from all year where she wants to go do something at peak times because that's when she's used to shopping and it's most convenient and I want to plan in advance and either avoid the trip by ordering online or go early morning or right before close. And mostly we don't go but she's convinced herself that stores are empty on weekday afternoons between lunch and the end of the office workday and that's the time to go even though google maps data completely disagrees with that. This is probably the worst time to hit up hardware and/or lawn and garden stores anyway. Won't matter what time of day it is, they're going to be packed
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Mar 25, 2021 15:11
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Iron Crowned posted:This is probably the worst time to hit up hardware and/or lawn and garden stores anyway. Won't matter what time of day it is, they're going to be packed They were packed a year ago, they will be double packed now. Triple packed!!!
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Mar 25, 2021 15:12
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Iron Crowned posted:This is probably the worst time to hit up hardware and/or lawn and garden stores anyway. Won't matter what time of day it is, they're going to be packed Most definitely, but before 8 AM or after 7PM on weekdays it's almost empty. The thing is it's extremely easy to look at a place and figure out when is a good time to go! Google Maps shows you expected amount of people there for any day of the week plus data in real time for what it's currently like. Hardware stores are at their busiest in the early afternoon, any day of the week. 
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Mar 25, 2021 15:16
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'Bout to Dale Earnhardt this poo poo! USA! USA!
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big cummers ONLY posted:I am learning about the new upward case trend for the first time this morning. I am dismayed. The prospect of reliving last year as the only person I know being aware of how bad things can get is psychically overwhelming and makes me want to shut down. You don't have to. Iirc you're vaxxed and there's zero evidence any of the variants are hitting our one real world study (israel) hard. Yes yes they're under some kind of partial lockdown but since mask mandates still exist in illinois you're good to go - you might not want to see a movie in a crowd but you can definitely go see friends outside all summer and have drinks with them, go use their bathroom, and if you're nervous just wear a mask. No one was wearing a mask outside from may to october last year Personally, my whole extended family is getting together for a funeral, over half are vaccinated. Some coming via plane, some via train. Church service will be interminable and require a mask, but once the after party goes to someone's house I guarantee only the unlucky few who want the vaccine and can't get it yet will keep their masks on. After all, that has been the reality for millions of people for a year - forced to be inside around other people who don't wear masks properly or at all.
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Forseti posted:'Bout to Dale Earnhardt this poo poo! USA! USA! lol
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Dolphin posted:I've seen enough movies to know that a new variant is coming with a 20% cfr Can anyone reasonably argue that we don't deserve it?
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Tzen posted:Alright deal I'm getting an MMR booster. I'm in-between vaxx shot #1 and #2. When's the best time to get it then? 2 weeks after my second vaxx jab? Soap Scum posted:wait, I think this is suboptimal. the titers to the COVID vaccines seem to build up over a somewhat long period of time (see the JnJ graph that indicates at least 8 weeks). if you get MMR in the middle of your ongoing immune response to the COVID vaccines, some of your immune system's capacity will still be going towards the MMR response instead of the COVID response. yeah i wouldn't think getting an MMR booster around your actual covid shots is a good idea. The current covid vaccines all give extremely good protection so let that ride for a while. my plan, subject to change of course, is to get an MMR booster heading into fall when my Covid antibodies from the vaccine i received in february might start to wane a bit. kind of like bridging the gap until the inevitable covid booster shot
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Who else is stoked about the Windows 10 spring update?? It's going to have Multicamera support for Windows Hello, tons of upgrades to Windows defender so you'll never be a victim of hacking, plus Windowss Management Instrumentation (WMI) Group Policy Service (GPSVC) for support of remote work! It's the most amazing upgrade to an operating system in history and just in time for the new surge in Covid19 cases!
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mastershakeman posted:You don't have to. Iirc you're vaxxed and there's zero evidence any of the variants are hitting our one real world study (israel) hard. Israel has barely any of the escape variants that are starting to hit the US. No brazilian or south african variant prevalence
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SplitSoul posted:And that everyone at-risk under 50 got lumped in with everyone else, because gently caress you, that's why. Really setting things up for total catastrophe. Trust the plan! (Concerns the Danish strategy for reopening) https://www.dr.dk/engagement/taet-paa/stil-spoersgmaal-om-ny-genaabning-hvorfor-aabner-vi-ikke-ogsaa-restauranterbarerfrisoerer posted:READ THE ANSWERS 'It is part of the plan that the infections will increase in the next few weeks' Ohh 
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mastershakeman posted:You don't have to. Iirc you're vaxxed and there's zero evidence any of the variants are hitting our one real world study (israel) hard. Yes yes they're under some kind of partial lockdown but since mask mandates still exist in illinois you're good to go - you might not want to see a movie in a crowd but you can definitely go see friends outside all summer and have drinks with them, go use their bathroom, and if you're nervous just wear a mask. No one was wearing a mask outside from may to october last year in other words we are hosed lmao
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Thoguh posted:Most definitely, but before 8 AM or after 7PM on weekdays it's almost empty. The thing is it's extremely easy to look at a place and figure out when is a good time to go! Google Maps shows you expected amount of people there for any day of the week plus data in real time for what it's currently like. Good timing, I am about to have to go to a big box for some PVC stuff and now I've decided I'm going after 8pm. It will be my first trip inside a retail store in over a year.
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Fireside Nut posted:yeah i wouldn't think getting an MMR booster around your actual covid shots is a good idea. The current covid vaccines all give extremely good protection so let that ride for a while. Is there an easy way to check your vaccination history? I'm about 95% sure the answer is no, but like, even if you ask your doctor are they even likely to be able to access it if they aren't the ones that administered it? I had a bunch of boosters in 2015 before I did a big through hike, but the ones that stand out in my mind are tetanus and hepatitis
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I don't get why they're pausing AZ in these countries instead of opening it to all age groups. I'd be so pissed if I was a young person in those countries.
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SchnorkIes posted:Israel has barely any of the escape variants that are starting to hit the US. No brazilian or south african variant prevalence If they're really going to break past the vaccines, just call them sars3. And then they will also go kill everyone in israel when they reopen business travel after vaccinating their whole population against sars2 As to the funeral I was thinking of it like this : the 9? Or so vaccinated people can definitely gather with each other however they want. The unvaccinated can either not come or stay outside, or wear a mask inside. Hell, one of the unvaccinated ones is in her late 50s, used to be a doctor, and just took a job at lowes because she's bored. That's vastly riskier working that job than any in person family gathering where are least 11 relatives are past the second dose and a few others past the first
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fosborb posted:epidemiologists even in Biden's admin are telling you that high community spread and partial vaccination are the perfect grounds to make escape variants, but sure, go meet your vaccinated family and friends who I'm sure are telling you the truth that they are not doing anything else that is riskier behavior, like seeing other friends or eating out or going into the grocery store more as mask mandates are revoked or working retail or seeing unvaxxed grandchildren that are forced back into school or tinder or Let's be real those escape variants are showing up no matter what anyone in this thread does. The trajectory American society (and frankly the entire west) guarantees we're going to explore the full range of mutations this virus can undergo while still remaining viable and infectious. School re-openings with vaccinated but older teachers, for-profit care homes with vaccinated residents + abysmal hygiene standards, boomers rushing back to restaurants are just some examples of the settings that will reliably churn out variants as long as community spread is uncontrolled. This isn't an argument for people to head to Applebee's or whatever, just that yelling at people for meeting other vaccinated people is like #13456 on the list of risky behaviors that will make sure this drags out for years. Of course those people meeting up should be aware they risk asymptomatic ally infecting unvaccinated people who might be exposed to them, but my guess is this isn't a common risk for the average bunker-dweller itt.
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If there's some new killer variant that dodgers the current vaccine is it likely they'd be able to produce a new vaccine faster than the current crop? I wonder what that timeline would look like. Distribution would still be a nightmare.
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Donut deal is NOT being honored at the krispy kremes in Puerto Rico!! God drat
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Dolphin posted:If there's some new killer variant that dodgers the current vaccine is it likely they'd be able to produce a new vaccine faster than the current crop? I wonder what that timeline would look like. Distribution would still be a nightmare. Distribution will be a joke, it'll just be a repeat of this time, except they probably will just keep the floodgates open. I guess on the plus side, there'll be vaccine burnout, so it'll probably be easier to get a new jab every few months
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Nocturtle posted:Let's be real those escape variants are showing up no matter what anyone in this thread does. The trajectory American society (and frankly the entire west) guarantees we're going to explore the full range of mutations this virus can undergo while still remaining viable and infectious. School re-openings with vaccinated but older teachers, for-profit care homes with abysmal hygiene standards, boomers rushing back to restaurants are just some examples of the settings that will reliably churn out variants as long as community spread is uncontrolled. Yeah, once you are vaccinated, just don't do poo poo that recklessly endangers unvaccinated people. otherwise, your good behavior is such an infinitesimally small contribution, it does not matter. Wear a mask when needed, and then just try and get back to normal as much as possible, because this country's will still be full of absolute morons just slavering at the chance to catch and spread covid.
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Dolphin posted:If there's some new killer variant that dodgers the current vaccine is it likely they'd be able to produce a new vaccine faster than the current crop? I wonder what that timeline would look like. Distribution would still be a nightmare. The vaccine itself can be produced in weeks but until something changes and they can treat it like a flu shot the trials will take almost as long.
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Thesaurus posted:Donut deal is NOT being honored at the krispy kremes in Puerto Rico!! 
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