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Boxturret posted:There's that ship that gets it's nacelle yanked off as it was trying to go to warp in Lower Decks. Still the most viscerally upsetting starship destruction I've seen in all of Trek. It really got to me.
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Boxturret posted:There's that ship that gets it's nacelle yanked off as it was trying to go to warp in Lower Decks. Great shot https://i.imgur.com/6ph2MwC.mp4
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I rewatched the LD episode last night where we first meet the crew of the Solvang on their original ship, and the show makes an understated but clear point that there are families aboard; we see several kids. A few episodes later? All dead. 
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Mar 27, 2021 19:54
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What even would the crew do? I mean, you need a few guys to turn the wheel and plot the course and respond to admirals, plus a few guys to fix stuff in engineering apparently. And i guess the doctor is kinda smart. But in terms of actually flying the ship, that should be enough. Presumably everyone else is there for other reasons. Science seems to be the biggest one (especially stellar cartography, they always come up), but other than that I think we see some security guys who are basically marines and then just generic "crew". For comparison, modern cargo ships apparently have a crew of around 25, pretty much regardless of size according to my friend who was crew on one of the largest ones. Keep in mind that includes rotations, du it's super skeleton crew. Also lol at the guy estimating the in universe cost of anything in a world where replicators exist and money don't (latinum pretty much had to be invented for Quark to have money).
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Mar 27, 2021 20:42
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MikeJF posted:A lot of the saucer is a rim of cabins around huge vaults of tankage and supply and equipment. Masses of space aboard is taken up by storage or capability rather than just the people. Ya the real problem is the depiction of Trek ships as being 99% habitable volume inside. Not like Trek is huge into realism, but it'd be more reasonable if the ships were like... a third pressurized space and the rest was equipment/tanks/etc. Galaxy is still big but not as absurd.
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Mar 27, 2021 20:49
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Payndz posted:I rewatched the LD episode last night where we first meet the crew of the Solvang on their original ship, and the show makes an understated but clear point that there are families aboard; we see several kids. "All the ship's children have been ejected into space!"
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Grand Fromage posted:Ya the real problem is the depiction of Trek ships as being 99% habitable volume inside. Not like Trek is huge into realism, but it'd be more reasonable if the ships were like... a third pressurized space and the rest was equipment/tanks/etc. Galaxy is still big but not as absurd. Hilariously the Disco turbolift dimension is probably a more realistic depiction of what most of the volume of a starship would be.
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Mar 27, 2021 20:55
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HD DAD posted:Hilariously the Disco turbolift dimension is probably a more realistic depiction of what most of the volume of a starship would be. That was my thought too. "This is stupid, but it makes perfect sense given what I know about Treknology." Though really, I would have figured with ships like the Oberth and California classes, there would actually be the inverse and key turbolift terminuses would end in site-to-site transporter pads that would just instantaneously beam the entire turbolift car to the opposing terminus point on the other disconnected portion of the ship.
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Mar 27, 2021 21:15
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nine-gear crow posted:That was my thought too. "This is stupid, but it makes perfect sense given what I know about Treknology." Though really, I would have figured with ships like the Oberth and California classes, there would actually be the inverse and key turbolift terminuses would end in site-to-site transporter pads that would just instantaneously beam the entire turbolift car to the opposing terminus point on the other disconnected portion of the ship. Are you saying people should get in a lift, travel a bit, get teleported, and then travel a bit more in the lift? Because that sounds incredibly dumb. And it highlights how silly turbolifts are in a world where we frequently use transporters. In a way, Discovery's personal transporters make a lot more sense.
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Mar 27, 2021 21:28
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MikeJF posted:Great shot LD is unironically good.
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nine-gear crow posted:That was my thought too. "This is stupid, but it makes perfect sense given what I know about Treknology." Though really, I would have figured with ships like the Oberth and California classes, there would actually be the inverse and key turbolift terminuses would end in site-to-site transporter pads that would just instantaneously beam the entire turbolift car to the opposing terminus point on the other disconnected portion of the ship. Iain Banks pretty much nails it when he established for The Culture that once you have anti-gravity tech and forcefields are the main thing holding your ship together rather than any actual hull structure, your ship can be any shape you want it to be because form has no utility at all.
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Mar 27, 2021 22:08
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Alchenar posted:Iain Banks pretty much nails it when he established for The Culture that once you have anti-gravity tech and forcefields are the main thing holding your ship together rather than any actual hull structure, your ship can be any shape you want it to be because form has no utility at all.
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Mar 27, 2021 23:07
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Nessus posted:It seems as if it would be wise to not tempt the gods by making it so losing your forcefield power means you also lose your atmosphere. However, my species is known for cowardice Please call them 'minds', we don't want to make them upset.
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Mar 27, 2021 23:23
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Kurzon posted:I got some more nitpicking on silly plot holes. In Undiscovered Country, once the Enterprise crew uncovers the conspiracy to sabotage the peace talks, why didn't they just send a quick message to Khitomer to warn them of a possible assassination attempt? "My comrades will make certain all your ship-to-shore transmissions are jammed." McSpanky posted:In one episode Geordi says that 90% of all ship functions are automated, which makes perfect sense to me. Hell, the crew number of ~1,000 isn't even all ship operations, that includes mission specialists and civilian auxiliaries. Depending on how much weight you want to give David Gerrold's novelization of Encounter at Farpoint, the "operations crew" of the Enterprise-D is about the same size as that of Kirk's Enterprise. And keep in mind, some of Kirk's crew were science staff as well.
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HD DAD posted:Hilariously the Disco turbolift dimension is probably a more realistic depiction of what most of the volume of a starship would be. It's still way too big though, like even for a Galaxy class starship.
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Grand Fromage posted:Ya the real problem is the depiction of Trek ships as being 99% habitable volume inside. Not like Trek is huge into realism, but it'd be more reasonable if the ships were like... a third pressurized space and the rest was equipment/tanks/etc. Galaxy is still big but not as absurd. Not quite the same but there was a good line in TNG where they mentioned an entire section of the ship was just empty deck for them to use or fill as needed.
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Shyrka posted:Yeah, her character wasn't very well fleshed out but Jadzia kind of felt like the most 'stereotypcially Federation' kind of person in that she's a highly educated hedonist, basically. She's not the most Trill or the most Klingon or the most Human, or even the most Starfleet, but she best embodies the sum of parts that the Federation is, in all its post scarcity utopia-ness. She can also play a mean game of Tongo
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MikeJF posted:The originally designed Enterprise-D as done by Probert had a crew of 5000, but they scaled it back to 1000 because they felt they couldn't depict 5 realistically onscreen. That said, you've got to keep in mind that this thing is a mobile starbase which is designed to be able to do anything and support whatever crises an entire planet is having, and last by itself outside of Federation space without resupply for decades. that's a lot of potential shore leave contraband er, hypothetically speaking I mean
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MikeJF posted:Not quite the same but there was a good line in TNG where they mentioned an entire section of the ship was just empty deck for them to use or fill as needed. I would have loved to see the visual of an entirely empty deck just stretching for hundreds of meters in either direction.
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MikeJF posted:Not quite the same but there was a good line in TNG where they mentioned an entire section of the ship was just empty deck for them to use or fill as needed. Which episode was that? I remember a bit in the tech manual about there being spaces open for future expansion or reconfiguration as needed, but not in the actual show dialogue.
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HD DAD posted:I would have loved to see the visual of an entirely empty deck just stretching for hundreds of meters in either direction. The Stage9 recreation of the never-seen shuttle bay 1 was pretty rad for showing just how much of a fukken aircraft carrier the Galaxy was. Never seen outside of that rad miniature in Cause and Effect where I always hope no one was in there when they blew that garage door.
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Bilirubin posted:that's a lot of potential shore leave contraband For the last time Will, we are not taking on the "Galaxy's Biggest Horga'hn" for a Federation-wide tour
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jeeves posted:Never seen outside of that rad miniature in Cause and Effect where I always hope no one was in there when they blew that garage door.
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I would assume that going to general quarters/Red Alert would include shuttlebay personnel move into areas sealed by airlock. (And make sure to follow protocol!  )Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Which episode was that? I remember a bit in the tech manual about there being spaces open for future expansion or reconfiguration as needed, but not in the actual show dialogue. Liasons - Troi is giving someone a tour and she describes much of deck 8 as unfinished multipurpose swing area. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Mar 28, 2021 |
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Mar 28, 2021 08:37
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Painted a runabout, thought you nerds might enjoy it.
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with all this nue trek, the lack of nue games is very distressing. I want a Bridge Commander, or actually give us more to the VR one  Why does star wars have to get a game a year for 30 years?
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I’d settle for a remake of A Klingon Challenge
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Return of the Obra Dinn but on a destroyed starship.
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Martytoof posted:I’d settle for a remake of A Klingon Challenge I'd settle for at least one of the cast recordings from Secret of Vulcan Fury being unearthed and finally seeing the light of day, and then having them set to CG animation or something. The script went through a ton of permutations, but it's known that at least three full cast recordings were done. (Although by the third, Kelley's health was failing and he couldn't travel, so Maurice LaMarche was brought in to voice McCoy.) But anyway, given what very little we know of the story, it seems really fascinating, and it would just be nice to have one of DC Fontana's final Trek contributions finally released. But given how legendarily lovely Interplay was when it came to archiving stuff (there's an interview with a former developer who said that everyone showed up for work on a Monday and the office was padlocked from the inside, everything was being boxed up and tossed out by the bank's repo guys), the odds of this happening are remote. But maybe those recordings are on a hard drive in a box in someone's basement, somewhere. Maybe. 
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HopperUK posted:Return of the Obra Dinn but on a destroyed starship. Well done.
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LD looks alright but i cant get past the nasty character designs and near constant dialogue. seems to be what ppl like in animation these days but its just exhausting 2 me personally
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Would you say it's like run on sentences with no punctuation and needless substitution of numbers for two letter words?
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watching TAS and everyone is so suspicious 90% of the budget must have went to eye narrowing animation
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The other 10 percent was spent on purple ink
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MikeJF posted:I would assume that going to general quarters/Red Alert would include shuttlebay personnel move into areas sealed by airlock. The Sternbach blueprints show a few areas marked future use, but it's mostly dozens of (unoccupied?) staterooms 
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first episode was dull, but second was much better. it had child vulcan bullies which is always good content, but uh at their outfits. I question the decision to dress them up like half naked mini gladiators
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Peragus posted:watching TAS and everyone is so suspicious
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Pascallion posted:There’s an epidemic of inscrutability (except for Sulu). 
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Pascallion posted:There’s an epidemic of inscrutability (except for Sulu). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB4NH5J19ow
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Nessus posted:It seems as if it would be wise to not tempt the gods by making it so losing your forcefield power means you also lose your atmosphere. However, my species is known for cowardice What kind of stupid backward-rear end species has a scenario that means "losing your forcefield power" is a separate scenario to "destroyed with all hands" anyway?
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